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After all that sychophantic arse-licking of the Ratzinger creature by CallMeDave, to suddenly find out that EdTheRed is an atheist, makes me warm to the stupid bug-eyed bullshitter, strangely enough...
You do know that you don't have to share [i]every[/i] thought that scuttles across your synapses Mr Woppit.
But he still has an inane grin like Blair and Brown before him.
Don't trust the grin I tell ya.
I don't trust any of them.
David Milliband went up in my estimation for his comments to Harriet Harman though.
So he's just making mileage out of his family "Jewish hiding from the Nazi menace in the second world war". I thought the "look at me, I'm persecuted" was a bit wierd for a Labour leaders first speech.
Still looks too much like Wallace. Needs a plasticine re-work.
How were you expecting Cameron to treat the Pope, exactly?
Spinning bird kick?
Like it or not, he's the Prime Minister which involves having to interact with other statesmen/faith leaders. At least he isn't Blair who lacked the guts to follow his instincts and convert to Catholicism until after he'd left office.
As for the new leader of the SS Titanic Deckchair Rearrangement Committee, nobody cares.
The only Milliband brother I like is the musical one - Steve...
As for the new leader of the SS Titanic Deckchair Rearrangement Committee, nobody cares.
have the tories got a new leader? i thought they were waiting until after next year's election?
#have the tories got a new leader? i thought they were waiting until after next year's election?
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You'll be able to hit your target weight once they stop your benefits.
😉
Jamie - Member
You do know that you don't have to share every thought that scuttles across your synapses Mr Woppit.
Why not? Doesn't seem to stop you.
MrSparkle - Member
The only Milliband brother I like is the musical one - Steve...
LOL
Yes - but what IS a "pompitance" of love, exactly? 😆
Sorry, just "scuttled" across my mind, like...
The only Milliband brother I like is the musical one - Steve...
😆 😆
Despite the fact that no-one really seems to know what Ed Milliband stands for, every-one knows that Tony Blair wanted the other one to win, so the fact the Ed's now in charge must have driven him mental. This alone makes him worth voting for as far as I'm concerned.
He has a funny look. 😆
it's not a pompitance it's a pompitous
So, what's a "pompitous" of love, then?
it's not a pompitance it's a pompitous
he'd have heard it correctly if his speaker cables had been on the right way around
You'd have made more sense if you knew how to punctuate.
according to the NME:
Debate has raged as to the meaning of "pompitous" ever since Steve Miller coined it in the 1973 song 'The Joker' ("Cos I speak of the pompitous of love") – although the fact that it is manifestly not a word didn't stop Miller from brazenly re-using it, in the song 'Enter Maurice'. Still, at least it's better than "zig-a-zig-aah".
What a pillock.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/11433582
"[b]Just be clear. Are you going to march alongside them or not?[/b]
I said I'm going to go to the rally, which is what I said in the campaign.
Beyond that, that's all I've got to say.
What I am saying to you, because I think it's really important to focus on the big issues.."
What a canute.
bassspine - Member
according to the NME:Debate has raged as to the meaning of "pompitous" ever since Steve Miller coined it in the 1973 song 'The Joker' ("Cos I speak of the pompitous of love") – although the fact that it is manifestly not a word didn't stop Miller from brazenly re-using it, in the song 'Enter Maurice'. Still, at least it's better than "zig-a-zig-aah".
Ooh, I don't know. I think I'd much rather Zig-A-Zig. Especially with that Posh one...
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well maybe then, but now it'd be like shagging a box full of coathangers
The Millibands remind me of the these two..
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i like him because hes looks like a geek
its a bit pointless really unless the condems do something really stupid labour wont have much of an impact in even the next election
who knows by the time they get in again they may have tried on as many leaders as the torries did in opposition
the coalition seems quite capable of holding itself together on the simple basis that to stay in power either party will have to concede some of their prinicples and vote with the whips,
staying in power>sticking to your ideals
meanwhile liam fox & callmedave are having a spat about defence funding
personally i think fox leaked the letter himself and has called in the millitary police to investigate his civil staff because hes a bit of a nutter
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/52ac1236-cb52-11df-95c0-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=rss
he'd have heard it correctly if his speaker cables had been on the right way around
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It wouldn't be the Military Police as it isn't a matter specific to the British Army, it'll be the MOD Police.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did leak the documents though, politicians can't help briefing against each other. Especially in the absence of a credible opposition.
I dont know much about him or what he stands for, however I wouldnt trust anyone who is prepared to shaft their own brother, also he was put into place by the unions, David got the majority vote of Labour members and politicians, but the union block vote rode rough shod over all that, so they get a new stooge.
I dont know much about him or what he stands for .......... but the union block vote rode rough shod over all that
You don't know much about how the leader of the Labour Party was chosen either........there was no "union block vote".
Still, don't let "facts" get in the way of an ill-informed rant.
really, then you do understand how the union votes work
Unions again. 🙄
Hardly threatening these days are they? The bods in the city of london put unions in the shade when it comes to professionally bringing a country to it's knee's.
Bastards.
Just to quote the BBC
"Under Labour's three-way electoral college, David had won the most support from party members and MPs. Ed had won only among trade unions and the so called affiliated societies of think tanks and interest groups."
The fourth round results show that ed was clearly supported by the unions and David was supported by the MPs and members.
David Miliband 49.35 (17.812 from MPs and MEPs, 18.135 from members, 13.40 from unions and affiliated societies)
Ed Miliband 50.65 (15.522 from MPs and MEPs, 15.198 from members, 19.934 from unions and affiliated societies)
Im not ranting, or ill informed, I do know how the electoral college works.
really, then you do understand how the union votes work
As a member of a union & paying the political levy, I was given an individual vote to cast as I saw fit, no block vote on my behalf
Oh whell.
At least the Racist Hypocrite came last. Good. Rubbish, this one.
Ok forgive me for using a term that is a bit tabloid, its just that no major union voted against the endorsement set out by its leaders, in the case of UNITE and the GMB this endorsement went out with the ballot papers, but as only 10% or less of you voted then apathy again wins the day in UK politics.
[b]@nickc[/b] I don't think Blair is the kind of man who really gives a damn about anyone but himself... he'll think about the proceeds of his last speaking tour and forget all about the Millibands!
[b]@Mr Woppit[/b] Thank you!
[b]@Kimbers[/b] I reckon he has a great chance at the next election... unemployment high, interest rates high, economy either still in trouble or just beginning to come good and a voting public who in general won't remember who was responsible for the mess in the first place. Leaves the way open for Ed.
I wasn't keen on any of the candidates, but I feel that the best man won. Diane Abbot was deluded in thinking she had a chance and I suspect she may have just been on an ego trip. Milliband snr and Balls are basically Blair-lite and Brown-lite respectively. Andy Burnham I warmed to but I do think that Milliband jnr is a good choice. He seems his own man and I can't see him being in thrall to the media circus and worshipping fame and fortune as B-liar was or being as bloody-minded as Brown was.
Time will tell. I am cautiously optimistic and look forward to the first PMQs with interest.
Im not ranting, or ill informed, I do know how the electoral college works.
Obviously you don't, otherwise you would not have made the block vote comment. In some cases trade unions vote on behalf of their members using their "block votes". They did not in the leadership election.
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its just that no major union voted against the endorsement set out by its leaders
That does make me chuckle 🙂
How many times does the right wing press tell us how out of touch trade union leaders are with their members,
eh ? If only it was left to the members themselves to decide what to do.......your ordinary trade union member is [i]so[/i] moderate they tell us.......probably votes Tory.
So here is an example of ordinary trade union members voting directly themselves. Perfect......there can't be any problems surely ? No wait ..... lo and behold, the result is totally unacceptable.
Trade unionists and other affiliated members did not decide that Ed Miliband would leader of the Labour Party. They simply did not have that power.....they were outnumbered 2 to 1.
If any group within the Labour Party has a [b][i]wholly disproportionate[/i][/b] influence on the leadership elections, then it is the MPs. Firstly, only they are allowed to nominate the candidates. Yes, Ed Miliband was not nominated by any trade unions - only be MPs.
And then, despite the fact that MPs along with MEPs only number 271, they have one third of all the votes in the electoral college. [u]Exactly[/u] the same as 3 million levy paying trade unionists.
1 MP vote = 11,628 trade union votes.
Individual Labour Party members do a bit better, they also have a third of the electoral college vote. There are approx 170,000 of them Which is again, considerably less than 3 million.
Proportionally, the most disadvantage group are the affiliated members. They are by far the largest group, and they have an inbuilt minority.
Every week affiliated trade unionists pay their pennies to the Labour Party. It is perfectly right that they should have a say when a new leader is being chosen. After all, without their support the Labour Party would collapse. And remember, they had no say when last Labour leader was chosen - so this was the first time in 16 years that they had a say.
BTW Sancho, I suspect from your style that you are not a Labour supporter, why then, are you bothered how the Labour Party chooses its leader ? Personally I truly couldn't give a toss how the Conservatives choose their leaders.......but then I have never voted Tory, so I guess there's some logic there.
Ernie, Im neither Labour or Tory, I am cynical of how both parties operate and are simply looking to feather the nests of their own supporters.
I dont like how the Unions are so politicised in the Labour party and I dont like how big business bolsters the conservatives.
of the 3 million levy paying members less than 10% voted, so like I said earlier, apathy wins in UK Elections.
And if you want me to remind you again, I do know how the Labour electoral college system works, its easy to understand from reading their web site, which also contains all the stats on the votes cast.