[Closed] MPG real figures part two BMW and AUDI RAGE CONTENT!!!!

I drive a 2010 BMW 635D

If I drove a car like that I'm not sure I would tell everyone!

Do you enjoy your driving though, or do you bimble sticking t all the speed limits?

What's enjoyable about doing 90 on a clear motorway or forcing your way through a busy one at anywhere between 60 and 85? This is more like driving pleasure, for me:

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^^^ 'driving pleasure' is toothing around in a Royal Mail van pretending to be Postman Pat?

peekay - Member

^^^ 'driving pleasure' is toothing around in a Royal Mail van pretending to be Postman Pat?

Looks to me like that Royal Mail van is about to carry out the 'highly amusing' act of waiting, waiting, waiting.......then GO GO GO, just at the point where the worst thing they could do is GO, causing you to slam on the brakes & utter a few embuggerances!! 😆

driving pleasure' is toothing around in a Royal Mail van pretending to be Postman Pat?

The van is IN the picture, but it's not actually doing any driving.....

On more than one occasion I've seen an Audi tail-gating a BMW (or vice-versa), it's a rare but beautiful thing, like a double rainbow. It's almost always a boggo A4 tdi or 320D for some reason.

Once I saw an an A4 tailgating a 3 series. To my absolute amazement another 3 series came rocketing up to the procession at well over the speed limit. The BM docked with the rear bumper of the Audi and for a brief but perfect period of time all 3 cars sped along together in unison. Like an automotive Human Centipede, except all the assholes were joined at the asshole. [i]Just then[/i]....like a bolt from the blue.....like Mjolnir answering Thor's outstretched arm....a Transit came flying up behind them briefly becoming part of this one in a million tosser parade before making them flee for the safety of the inner lanes lest they might anger a working class person. And like that, they were gone, like tears in the rain.

I cried.

It's worth bearing in mind that tailgaters are by definition very poorly skilled drivers, and probably not too bright.

To help prevent them damaging their expensive car if you have to brake suddenly, the decent thing to do is to slow down so that the gap is now a safe braking distance.

I regularly do this, and it seems to be appreciated because they wave enthusiastically at me when they get round to overtaking, and seem to be mouthing something like "Thank you very much".

It's polite to wave back, but for safety's sake just raising one finger from the wheel will do.

This is more like driving pleasure, for me

Too right, I would hoon it on a road like that. 😀

Blaaady HOON!

33 year clean license here if we're counting

After 6 months of this I calculated that if instead of doing that I stuck the cruise at 56mph in lane 1, I never had to change lanes because all the trucks went at 56 - I'd arrive for work about 6 minutes later and it saved me £70 a month in fuel. I arrvied a work happier, but more importantly I didn't arrive home all angry and short tempered.

Indeed when I lived in London and occasionally drove to Leeds to see GF and my family at the weekend, I initially tried the outside lane, then realised there was no point (not even 6 minute's worth) as you were just up to 90, back down to 40 or 50, up to 90 again. Middle and/or inner lanes were if anything faster on average, and far smoother.

The number of people that will speed up to block up a gap when you indicate so you don't "win" (in their mind only) never ceases to amaze me. As does the number of people on a quiet motorway who will tailgate you in the inner lane if you're pootling along instead of just overtaking. If only everyone was as skillful as I am at driving!

jimjam - Member

On more than one occasion I've seen an Audi tail-gating a BMW (or vice-versa), it's a rare but beautiful thing, like a double rainbow. It's almost always a boggo A4 tdi or 320D for some reason.

Once I saw an an A4 tailgating a 3 series. To my absolute amazement another 3 series came rocketing up to the procession at well over the speed limit. The BM docked with the rear bumper of the Audi and for a brief but perfect period of time all 3 cars sped along together in unison. Like an automotive Human Centipede, except all the assholes were joined at the asshole. Just then....like a bolt from the blue.....like Mjolnir answering Thor's outstretched arm....a Transit came flying up behind them briefly becoming part of this one in a million tosser parade before making them flee for the safety of the inner lanes lest they might anger a working class person. And like that, they were gone, like tears in the rain.

I cried.

Truly Beautiful......

Like an automotive Human Centipede, except all the assholes were joined at the asshole

Thank you for this.

@ legend: who mentioned hitting the brakes, did I?

Sometimes one can just slightly change speed, gently up and down, meaning a gap opens up behind, they accelerate to catch up then brake as they're too close, then feedback sets in, like a horizontal yo-yo.

Then they realise, or not.

Do I advocate this? No, it's childish.

On more than one occasion I've seen an Audi tail-gating a BMW (or vice-versa), it's a rare but beautiful thing, like a double rainbow. It's almost always a boggo A4 tdi or 320D for some reason.

Once I saw an an A4 tailgating a 3 series. To my absolute amazement another 3 series came rocketing up to the procession at well over the speed limit. The BM docked with the rear bumper of the Audi and for a brief but perfect period of time all 3 cars sped along together in unison. Like an automotive Human Centipede, except all the assholes were joined at the asshole. Just then....like a bolt from the blue.....like Mjolnir answering Thor's outstretched arm....a Transit came flying up behind them briefly becoming part of this one in a million tosser parade before making them flee for the safety of the inner lanes lest they might anger a working class person. And like that, they were gone, like tears in the rain.

I cried.

*tears*

If I'm in a bimbling mood and someone clearly wants to go faster than me unless they're just going to end up in traffic round the next corner I'll make sure they can get past at the next sensible place, I see no reason to hold someone up. I do have a regularly have a good hoon myself though.
I did enjoy it a few weeks ago seeing a 3 series come flying up to an amg sls to tailgate, I could almost feel his shame when the amg got bored and left them standing!

A4 tailgating a 3 series. To my absolute amazement another 3 series came rocketing up to the procession at well over the speed limit. The BM docked with the rear bumper of the Audi and for a brief but perfect period of time all 3 cars sped along together in unison. Like an automotive Human Centipede, except all the assholes were joined at the asshole. Just then....like a bolt from the blue.....like Mjolnir answering Thor's outstretched arm....a Transit came flying up behind them briefly becoming part of this one in a million tosser parade before making them flee for the safety of the inner lanes lest they might anger a working class person. And like that, they were gone, like tears in the rain.

I did enjoy it a few weeks ago seeing a 3 series come flying up to an amg sls to tailgate, I could almost feel his shame when the amg got bored and left them standing!

A friend has an Evo4 which has been modded to high heaven, but actually looks pretty ropey and could be easily mistaken for a yoof hot hatch type wagon.

Friend was happily poodling along one day when a Boxster, driven by a young estate-agenty sort of gent with lady co-pilot in tow, roared up behind into the oft-mentioned in this thread tailgating position. Unperturbed, friend carried on pootling until Boxster driver decided to overtake (as chances are he's an important fellow with places to be and girls to impress). Friend waited until Boxster was alongside, looked over (probably with a rollup dangling from his lip), dropped it into 3rd, waved, and then shot off like a scalded cat.

Apparently that was the last time he saw the Boxster.

It should be noted that the last time the Evo was rolling road tested it was putting out 420bhp and friend is a former competitive rally driver.

A friend has an Evo4 which has been modded to high heaven, but actually looks pretty ropey and could be easily mistaken for a yoof hot hatch type wagon.

Friend was happily poodling along one day when a Boxster, driven by a young estate-agenty sort of gent with lady co-pilot in tow, roared up behind into the oft-mentioned in this thread tailgating position. Unperturbed, friend carried on pootling until Boxster driver decided to overtake (as chances are he's an important fellow with places to be and girls to impress). Friend waited until Boxster was alongside, looked over (probably with a rollup dangling from his lip), dropped it into 3rd, waved, and then shot off like a scalded cat.

Apparently that was the last time he saw the Boxster.

It should be noted that the last time the Evo was rolling road tested it was putting out 420bhp and friend is a former competitive rally driver.

This is common with my honda people don't get that theyr'e running out of puff just as mines coming in not so good for power but rolling roads ,thyre really nice little cars till you need them not to be

Wow, that's SO AWESOME!

Some people never learn. 🙂

This is STW, be careful with your anecdotes out there folks

That's the post of the year for me, thanks JimJam.

Put the ETA on the screen on your satnav, that drive home a point about not making much difference to the arrival time if you gun it.

Back off the accelerator whenever the car is going down a slope - if I drive my wifes RAV4 I like to put the mpg up on the display and see how high I can get it on a run.

Don't worry about cars tailgating you, just worry about your gap to the car in front. If someone is being pushy behind then just delight in the 'inconvenience' you are causing, as long as you are not driving unreasonably slow - like test-fail type slow.

molgrips is right about that road he pictured, although I didn't expect that as I thought he had a passat for a long time?

Jimjam, is, I believe, today's winner of the Internet!
Booker Prize winner right there. 😀

Fwiw, I see more knobs in Beemers than Audis, but driving like a dick is by no means an exclusive privilege endowed on anyone who drives a car by either of those two manufacturers.
Far worse are those who are of the belief that they have the right to set whatever speed limit they decree to be safe, which is, generally speaking, between ten and twenty mph below whatever is posted, except in a 30 zone, where they do 35-40; above that, it's usually 40mph everywhere, leading to a queue of frustrated drivers who just want to get somewhere a bit quicker, thank you.
I've followed a Merc 230 Kompressor coupé along a road with a 60 limit, on a warm, sunny day*, at between 35-38, according to the very accurate digital speedo on my Puma, and they were braking for every slight bend in the road. I used to drive the same road at 55-60 in a '55 split-screen Morris Minor, with a 1300 A-series fitted.
This just leads to frustration, attempts to overtake at inappropriate places, and is just unnecessary in a modern car with performance tyres fitted.
Hell, my Octavia is faster.
*The driver did have the roof down, so possibly she didn't want to disturb her hair-do too much before her lunch appointment in Bath...
😉

I didn't expect that as I thought he had a passat for a long time?

It's fun regardless of what you are driving. It was fun in a 950cc MkII Fiesta.

leading to a queue of frustrated drivers who just want to get somewhere a bit quicker, thank you.

So you blame the slow driver for dangerous overtakes? **** me that's some crap logic. If you can't cope with frustration you shouldn't be on the road - end of. Blaming the slow driver is like blaming cyclists for bad passes by cars.

leading to a queue of frustrated drivers who just want to get somewhere a bit quicker, thank you.

So you blame the slow driver for dangerous overtakes? **** me that's some crap logic. If you can't cope with frustration you shouldn't be on the road - end of. Blaming the slow driver is like blaming cyclists for bad passes by cars.

Do you enjoy your driving though, or do you bimble sticking t all the speed limits?

What's enjoyable about doing 90 on a clear motorway or forcing your way through a busy one at anywhere between 60 and 85? This is more like driving pleasure, for me:

Sometimes driving at 90 on the motorway can be fun.

Really?

If it's clear, its not fun, it's just driving. If it's busy, it's stressful. 130 on a clear motorway is a bit more fun, but still boring after a while (and yes I have done it).

Why do you assume that all people who want to overtake a slow vehicle are making dangerous overtakes.

I did nothing of the sort. I was addressing CountZero who said:

This just leads to frustration, attempts to overtake at inappropriate places

I assumed inappropriate meant dangerous. If someone gets frustrated behind a slow vehicle, and then does a dangerous overtake - it's absolutely categorically the overtaker's fault. A driver needs to be able to deal with frustration - public roads have all sorts of traffic on them, that's a fact of life with which you need to deal.

As for caravanning - you're saying that I should be prevented from holidaying the way I want because you want to drive 10mph faster - THAT's selfish. At least half the time when I'm on a windy country road with the caravan I'm being held up by someone else going even slower without a caravan. Nervous driver, older driver, incompetent driver, good vehicle... You DO NOT have the right to drive fast, and you should not expect it - caravans are just one slower vehicle you might encounter. If you're impatient, that's your problem - you can wait for a straight or wait for me to pull over. Which I will, cos I'm considerate. If another caravan driver is not, then that's an inconsiderate road user, another common type that you encounter.

I feel like I'm lecturing one of my kids now.

I feel like I'm lecturing one of my kids now.

Ok, ban leisure flights first though.

But what about distance? If you drive from London to say the Lakes, I could drive from Cardiff to West Wales and you'd probably use more fuel.

Then again.. I get 32mpg with the caravan on, you going to ban anyone who wants to go on holiday in a van? Motorhome? That nice Porsche? But that Porsche driver drives that all year round, I only take the van out three or four times a year, it only does a few hundred miles.

Ban that lot as well on environmental grounds you might have my support!

dragging a big white box behind the car

It's beige.

Ok, ban leisure flights first though.

And just because there are bigger offenders out there doesn't make your crime less significant

It does if you are going to start banning things. If you ban tiny offenders that you don't like and let far worse things go on just because you do like them, then you're like Hitler, that's Godwin, and the thread must now close.

Can you tell the kids to get off your account molgrips and let the adults chat, please?

Sorry, I thought we were joking around...

Countzero, you hit the nail on the head for me. I drive to work on country lanes and pass through a small town. It's such a frustration when you get morons who seem to just do 40mph regardless of whether it's 30mph or national speed limit, especially when they catch up with you in said town after you overtook them 3 miles back.
My view, people make complaints not the cows. This is also Darwin's county, so drive like a moron and let natural selection be your destiny, not misfortune somebody else's.

Had my cruise control and camera confirmed I was doing 31 mph and 45mpg.
Had a stack of cars sitting on my bumper trying to get me to speed up in 30mph neighbourhoods.
Slowing down or driving at the speed limit can be safer and could increase your mpg in some cars.

Just ignore the prats speeding behind you.
If it's emergency they can overtake or they can call the police.

Meanwhile back on fuel economy measures...

A good rule of thumb is that braking wastes energy so try to drive with as much anticipation and little use of the brakes as is safely possible. This results in less acceleration between junctions and earlier lifting off the accelerator when approaching hazards. Saves fuel, passenger stress and mechanical wear.

If you're impatient, that's your problem - you can wait for a straight or wait for me to pull over. Which I will, cos I'm considerate.

Then it's true - you're...... the one.

If it's emergency they can overtake or they can call the police.

I generally assume that if the person up my backside's journey was that important s/he'd have flashing blue lights mounted on their vehicle.