[Closed] motorcycle cornering tips please ( on Big trailie single)

May all be obvious, but since you asked.

Use the front brake to slow down. It's almost impossible to lock up the front when upright. Particularly with Dominator brakes. The back is for controlling lines more than slowing down.

Dominators don't like being trashed. Short shift and be smooth.

You need a lot of counter steering to get into and out of a corner.

They'll go around a corner better than you'd think...

I had one for years, flipping brilliant.

For cornering sit as far forward as you can - basically ontop of the tank. Countersteer like mad, then tip it in as if your going to stick the bar into the road.

Ensure your front tyre is good, the back wont matter much as when your all over the front you can let it slip at the back.

As for diving, let it. The more weight transfered to the front the more grip you get.

Ive scraped the pegs on mine before.

Countersteer's the way forward. If you've made it halfway around the corner, then you'll be fine for the other half.
Remember to stretch the trottle cable like a piano string to enjoy all of the 34bhp! Have fun. Big singles are ace...FACT

1. Relax
2. Use vanishing points
3. Countersteer

Easy!

And as above weight forward and be smooth - 99% of the time a bike will get round the corner - its error from the rider that will upset things

99% of the time a bike will get round the corner

whats a vanishing point?

Just ride it lots and you'll get faster.

think it's nearer 44 BHP ...the restricted ones are 33/34 which mine isn't. I also been told by a owner of several that the early ones are a bit quicker too. Lot of fun though and simple/cheap . long journeys are still done by car but RTW ...maybe!!!!

Mine from a few years back (it was actually a drunk-while-the-wife-was-away-ebay-bargain). Came in a loosely assembled heap 😀

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I'm currenlt riding a Bandit 650 whilst the insurance decide what to do with my F650, ****ing thing is bloody uncomfortable but very quick in comparison. Almost seems to steer itself.

Weight forward and a decent front tyre (as mentioned above) is key.
Accelerating through the corner sounds counter-intuitive, but helps on this style of bike.

Do the same corner at the same speed as a test, 1st on neutral throttle, 2nd accelerate gently from pre-apex the whole way round.

Massive difference.

Use the throttle to slow down on the way in and once you see the road 'opening' up, accelerate.

The brakes, especially front, will only upset it.

Relax, make sure you're not all tensed up (you should be able to flap your elbows funky-chicken style at all times), and take it easy for the first few months... The speed will come back soon enough.

[i]whats a vanishing point?[/i]

During a session with one of those ex-advanced pursuit super police top gun type blokes (in a car) I was told about the vanishing point...its where the verge or kerb goes out of view on a bend. If you are catching up with it, decrease speed, if its pulling away from you, nail it 🙂

Again, that was in a car, so the technique on a bike may differ slightly.

After watching Superbikes at Thruxton this weekend I recommend decent knee sliders..........

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You might find that leaning the bike over while remaining more upright your self helps with this type of bike.

During a session with one of those ex-advanced pursuit super police top gun type blokes (in a car) I was told about the vanishing point...its where the verge or kerb goes out of view on a bend. If you are catching up with it, decrease speed, if its pulling away from you, nail it

But I is always looking round the bend for someone trying to kill me, mind you I'm pretty happy being slow.

The slow ones are easier to hit.

[i]But I is always looking round the bend for someone trying to kill me, mind you I'm pretty happy being slow[/i]

If you are looking as far round the bend as possible, then you are watching the vanishing point anyway.

...and remember that while the cops give out good advice they also ride around on dayglo bikes with blue lights...

Brake later and get on the throttle sooner. Don't be afraid to throw the bike on it's ear with a lot of countersteer as mentioned.
Put pressure through your outside footpeg to bring the bike up out of the corner as you wind the throttle on hard.
With a big single you will find you probably aren't using the brakes much as shutting the throttle will give you such effective engine braking. There shouldn't be a gap between the throttle being shut and the brakes applied if you are wanting to make progress.

Had a dommie a drz and three tigers. Down two and chuck it in, tend not to use brakes too much, just gear down. Big bars for counter steering. I stay more upright and push bike down. Use the better forward vision you have to good effect. There isn't much can tay with a well ridden big traillie on the right roads but don't tell sports bike riders 😈

What everyone else said about counter steering.

Plus find a road you know well and a fast corner you enjoy and ride it again and again, checking your speed to see how fast you can take it and feel safe / in control etc. Then slowly increase the speed...

Whats the big hurry with getting round corners at stupid speeds anyway?
You could easily end up dead and that would **** up your whole day wouldn't it?

Best bit of advice I saw recently goes a bit like this..

So you made it round that corner safely? Congratulations! There will be another along in a minute for you to try.

cheez0 - Member

Whats the big hurry with getting round corners at stupid speeds anyway?
You could easily end up dead and that would **** up your whole day wouldn't it?

Because it's fun and because you can.

You could easily end up dead and that would **** up your whole day wouldn't it?

Keep body upright push bars down with elbows up moto x stylee and for extra effect when stuffing it up the inside of matey boy on R1/Blade on the tighter corners, foot down kissing the surface when back end is drifting then hoon off with huge grin on yer dish 😆

Have you ever tried riding MX style on the road? While you can save a front wash with your boot the extra speed means you will rip your toe nails off.

While I've never ripped my toe nails off when doin so(what footwear are you using by the way?) I have twisted a knee or two using that very technique.

Having owned a few Supermoto's, including one very special KTM, they are awesome tools. Although i dont think i could deal with the heavy single pots mentioned above. Maybe a drizzle at a push but my first one of those i snapped 3rd gear in half.

I do miss that brap,brap of the Ti Akropovic on the KTM though. Flame spitting, over run banging goodness.

While I've never ripped my toe nails off when doin so(what footwear are you using by the way?) I have twisted a knee or two using that very technique

Ahh so not exactly a light singlepot then. Rather you than me jumping a bandit though.

Possibly. I'm not sure the Dominator falls into the light category. 165kg is closer to my Bandit than my MX bike 😯

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I can second the comment about not using your foot MX style. If you stick your foot on the road mid corner it will not help. Keep your feet on the pegs while on the road.

When off road, sure do it MX style.

I never found the cornering limits on my Dominator, it just kept leaning and leaning till the pegs scraped or I got scared. Flipping brilliant rush of a buzz.

I thought inside leg forward on tarmac was more for weight-forward reasons than for actually putting the foot down? The weight of your whole leg and boot, right up near the front wheel. Still doesn't sound like a great idea to me, but I gathered that was the reason?

Vanishing point is something that everyone should do, bike, car or cycle - it puts your focus as far ahead as possible, helps you judge the radius of the road, and also is crucial for judging speed - ie being able to stop in the distance you can see.

I thought inside leg forward on tarmac was more for weight-forward reasons than for actually putting the foot down? The weight of your whole leg and boot, right up near the front wheel. Still doesn't sound like a great idea to me, but I gathered that was the reason?

glenp, yes - its a lot to do with weight/balance. But off road on slower / slippery corners you can skimm your foot a bit to assist or save your washout with a dab in panic.

However the weight is transmitted to the bike where you are in contact with the bike. So sitting on the tank will give the front grip. Taking your foot off the peg will mean the weight is left to be transmitted to the bike via your ass and hands, which should be up front. Outside peg weighted to stop the slip. Taking your foot off the inside has the effect of weighting the outside one.

Its like standing on the scales with a 10kg weight in your hand. You still weigh 10kg with the 10kg weight held out or held in.

I did try using my foot to hold up my bike on road once. It didnt work, I just got my leg pulled backwards and nearly fell off the back of the bike.