Tried a cheapo WS safety razor ad blades from Boots....the shaving experience was a bit crap (admittedly I didn't have time to check out any videos on technique).
Is it all down to technique or will I need to spend £100 on a pukkah razor and the same on 17 types of blades to find out what works for me?
Yay is Al's troll du jour. 😉
It's 100% true Mike and not trolling at all. You can inspect my stubble & slightly blotchy skin if you need proof.
But your 40 Al, surely you know how to shave by now? 😐
Is that the plastic one?
Aye.
tried them king of shaves azor things
could not get on with them
for me its king of shaves oil and mach 3 blades
Good technique relies on the weight of the razor, rather than scraping it round your chops. That plastic one lacks weight compared to steel ones, making it harder to get the technique right. A fella on youtube going by the name of mantic is often the default starting point for how to use them properly.
Safety razors - the rigid SS of the razor world.
Give it up and stick to modern technology. Some evolution is good.
Not sure about the nature of the troll but on face value - assuming you're shaving your face? - then gillete gel and the 5 blade gillete razor will sort you out.
Al, welcome to the 21st century. Just because something is old fashioned does not make it good - I know this goes against the aspirational STW grain but there you go 🙂
Good technique relies on the weight of the razor
Hehe 🙂
So the safety razor fanbois were wrong? 🙁
Go for the 'selection' pack on The Shaving Shack for blades. I have the Wilkinson DE (black plastic over a metal body) its quite weighty and a longish handle. Did manage to pick up an old Gillette Tech razor but its quite small and light. My shaving rash has disappeared after two weeks on the new DE shaving regime.
M3 Power razor with Nivea sensitive shave gel. Ace. Better than any electric razor I've used and the blades aren't too expensive.
If you are serious Al, Gilette fusion and a good shaving gel is all you need.
If you suffer bad shaving rash than try a sensitive balm.
cynic-al - MemberSo the safety razor fanbois were wrong?
Were they on this forum?
What's bloody annoying about shaving is that it's something you do for years without thinking about it. Mach 3 blades and Nivea shave gel.
Then you hear someone on TV talk about shaving (on Richard & Judy about 10 years ago, then Alan Davies on QI, then stuff on STW). So when shaving, a boring task at the best of times, you recall these conversations and start thinking about how you're shaving. It's bloody annoying. Shut up!
Mach 3 blades work fine. So use them.
Almost certainly it will be your technique.
You can not use a safety razor in the same way you used a cartridge razor or you will end up with a sore face.
Check out some of the videos (you know you really want to deep down inside) and then give it another go 🙂
Beard, sorted.
I know how to shave fine (with modern stuff), just wanted to see if the old school method was as good as its proponents hold out.
Too subtle for me mate.... Didn't pick up on a little dig against
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It is!
You just have to unlearn all of your bad habits and start again.
you should try the oil though
its loads better than foam or gel
****ing blokes talking about shaving..........wtf.
mtfu the lot of you............. 🙄
what next............'what moisturiser'.........ffs
cynic-al - MemberI know how to shave fine (with modern stuff), just wanted to see if the old school method was as good as its proponents hold out.
I know you have a love of things vintage Al, but seriously as per Tootall above, some evolution is good.
****ing blokes talking about shaving..........wtf.
mtfu the lot of you.............
Well it is a far more manly conversation than asking 'what bicycle should I buy next?'.
[bows in front of cynical-al/]
Ace trolling sir, you are to be commended.
I see Ton agrees with me, but in his own lovely way 😉
cynic-al - Member
So the safety razor fanbois were wrong?
No they weren't. After the other long thread I invested in a Muhle razor, brush etc. Still in my first week but a few comments on the experience so far;
1) Get a much closer shave with the Muhle. Can't believe how smooth it feels
2) Takes about twice as long to shave, but 90% of the time not an issue for me
3) Quite like the whole ritual
4) Now on 4th shave and getting the hang of not looking like an extract from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Reckon you need to go the whole hog of decent razor, brush, bowl so not cheap to start, but blades 10p each as opposed to over £1 each for the multi blades I was using
Hooray!
Another convert!
Keep it up Captain 🙂
Ye should just go with waxing, Al...........it's worked for yer scrotum for years!! 😉
Mekur from http://www.gentlemans-shop.com/ , decent quality brush, sorted.
gillette blue two - the best a man can get.
Absoluitely detest shaving - I think it's a waste of time. So I use the cheapest nastiest blades I can as a kind of protest - why waste money on a pointless thing? Kind of works for me in a weird way, although there are very "bloody" days.
Ho hum - Member
Hooray!Another convert!
This is the weirdest thing - What does it matter to [i]you[/i] how [i]someone else[/i] shaves???
Babylis i-stuble electric jobby works for me - never go clean shaving just take stuble down to .5 mm a couple of times a week.
*skip to the end*
Grow a beard.
OK:
1. Who's borked teh formatting?
2. I am not trolling.
3. Captain Mainwaring - how can the shave be that good if you are still cutting yourself?
DezB - MemberHo hum - Member
Hooray!Another convert!
This is the weirdest thing - What does it matter to you how someone else shaves???
It doesn't.
In much the same way that I am not really bothered about whether or not cynical Al can get the hang of using a safety razor or not.
Lighten up mate. It's just a bit of fun 🙂
Good technique relies on the weight of the razor, rather than scraping it round your chops. That plastic one lacks weight compared to steel ones, making it harder to get the technique right. A fella on youtube going by the name of mantic is often the default starting point for how to use them properly.
= stick lump of roofing lead to plakky razor. Job done.
KoS gel & 24/8 aftershave balm here, and using one of those Azor razors, mixed results with that one though.
[i]Lighten up mate. It's just a bit of fun[/i]
I'll try, but its gonna bug me tomorrow morning!
I'm another convert to DE as a direct result of the other thread. Total set up cost was less than £15 (second hand Gilette Tech + blades/soap).
I had to revert to my old Mach3 this morning as I didn't have time for the DE. The result is complete bobbins by comparison (and I've been using modern evolved shaving technology for the last 25 years, so have got the hang of it).
I'll be throwing the mach3 in the bin when I get home from work.
The long thread was my fault :)[center]
Two weeks with the new (3rd hand) razor has cleared up 10 years of razor burn/spots from mach 3 razors and various shaving foams and moisturisers.
No blood baths yet either!
DezB - Member
Lighten up mate. It's just a bit of funI'll try, but its gonna bug me tomorrow morning!
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Look, another convert in the form of freddyg!
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Gilette fusion and a good shaving gel is all you need
serious question - how many days do you generally use a blade for before changing - I stick a new one on every week, but dunno if habit or what ??
•cynic-al - Member
Captain Mainwaring - how can the shave be that good if you are still cutting yourself?
The cuts are only tiny nicks on the neck where your skin goes wrinkly (well mine does 🙁 ). Only on the first shave did a couple of knicks bleed after rinsing my face after the shave. Even Mrs M noticed that the shave was closer than before, and I don't have a strong beard growth
With a fusion I get 3 - 4 shaves
With a mach 3, I get 5 - 7 shaves
With a DE, I get 3 shaves.
So with the DE I need to change the blades more often. However, I prefer the feel of the post-shave results (so does MrsG) and it's cheaper:
Fusion = £2.12 per blade (£16.99 for 8 from [url= http://www.boots.com/en/Gillette-Fusion-Blades-8-Pack_27454/ ]Boots[/url])
Mach3 = £1.43 per blade (£11.46 for 8 from [url= http://www.boots.com/en/Gillette-Mach-3-Replacement-Blades-8-Pack_1982/ ]Boots[/url])
DE = £0.16 per blade (£0.81 for 5 from [url= http://www.shaving.ie/products/Derby-Extra-DE-Razor-Blades.html ]shaving.ie[/url])
Therefore, the fusion will cost me £15 a month, the mach3 £6.13 a month and the DE £1.60 a month - approx.
The price may go up a bit as I try different DE blades, but should still fall short of the Mach3.
I used to use Sensor's for years, then used splashed out on some new Fusion blades for the razor my brother in law bought me last Xmas. Its very nice but not sure its good enough to keep me off the Sensor's.
I also use a Phillishave electric for those days where there's a bit of stubble but don't have time / can't be bothered for a proper shave.
I shave in the shower so not bothered about the entire ritual, but do enjoy it when I do.
I have stubble like desperate Dan, I've been using the WS £5 black plastic DE razor for a while now with tescos own blades. I get a good close shave, blades last a month each and I hardly ever get cut unless I've got a spot.
It's all in the heat, you have to shave after a bath or shower otherwise it's always going to be crap.
Now shaving the old nut sac etc is deffo the only job for a modern blade!