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it's like the Spanish Inquisition on here!

it's the comfy chair next you heretic!


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:15 am
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So long as youre not playing Torquemada Simon.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:17 am
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Unless you are Polish, why would anyone fish in a canal anyway? What a useless waste of time- sat waiting for something to bite then throw it back. Madness.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:19 am
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LOVED the Torquemada stories. He was my fave character

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Posted : 15/10/2009 11:21 am
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whereas riding round in a big loop in the pissing rain is perfectly reasonable adult behaviour?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:22 am
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Didnt mean that one hora...


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:22 am
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whereas riding round in a big loop in the pissing rain is perfectly reasonable adult behaviour?

Yes because you get to say 'stoked' and 'core' whilst looking forward to your girlfriends appalled look when you comeback dirty.

Didnt mean that one hora...

I know, but he is far far cooler to imagine..


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:25 am
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"looking forward to your girlfriends appalled look"

I look forward to having to get undressed in the porch because "You're not coming in the house looking like that".


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:27 am
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It was an accident.

Do have any 3rd party insurance? even contents cover may cover public liability outside the home.

Call your insurance up to see and if so find the kid.

Job done.

If not, then hope it's a cheap pole.

Or just learn and never do it again!

You made a mistake - it happens now sort it out and don't admit all liability either.

Cheer up and stop feeling crap. And if you don't get a call from the angling club then don't ride there again for a while!

Ride with some patience and respect to others too.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:32 am
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haha. come winter my kit has to live on the car and be resused countless times as she wont let it near the washing machine caked with mud. Then theres the mop chasing me across the kitchen floor feverishly along with the 'Ive spent ages cleaning and then you come in!' ...err yeah honey, hi to you too'!


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:32 am
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buy dirtworkers


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:35 am
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Just noticed the tags at the top of this thread - how very dare you!


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:35 am
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Aye but Im not paying 70quid for a plastic bottle, a piece of hose and a ickle motor 😉

Hmmmm
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Posted : 15/10/2009 11:37 am
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Hosepipe, bucket of hot water and a brush for the bike.

Stripping naked (thank god for high fences) and the hosepipe for the riding kit - followed by a quick dash to the washing machine then the bath!


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:43 am
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why do fishermen have along pole to fish n theother side cant they just go and stand on that side instead?

I had this on my boat where he did not move his rod ..I know a 50 ft 20 ton boat in the water comming t owards you at 3 mph an deasy mistake. Why he did not yield to the behmnouth crawling towards him was beyond me.
I hit it, it broke we exchanged details (and insults). He tried to sue. However , surprisingly, I had right of way as he could move out easier than me and had more than enough time to do so. They cant fish within a certain distance of locks, moored boats or bridges (50 metres iirc).


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:43 am
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If I ever got into fishing I'd need to take a few jazz mags, you know. To kill the time. 🙄


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:45 am
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All this talk of suing and liability has made me realise that I made the whole thing up! I dont even own a mountain bike, and you cant prove I was there. You'll never take me alive you dirty coppers!


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:46 am
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if you 'asked them to shift their gear and they ignored you', you must have known the gear was still there? or am I missing something? did they do a stealth un-shift of gear, which passed you by?

my kids fish, if you broke their stuff and rode off I'd say you were a total phucktard


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:53 am
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I dont even own a mountain bike, and you cant prove I was there.

but there's been a play written about the incident! Would you even deny the characters' lives ?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 11:59 am
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Thank you Simon, I'll gladly share royalties from the opening night with you for this support.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:01 pm
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idave - I never saw the rod until I went over it, so no, I didnt know the gear was still there. I'm in the middle of trying to sort this out with the fishing club. As I believe I mentioned in my original post, I went back to try and sort this out shortly after it happened. To be frank, it's the riding off bit that made me feel guilty, not damaging the rod - If the lads chose to ignore me when I (politely) asked them to move their gear, then that's their responsibility.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:09 pm
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If the lads chose to ignore me when I (politely) asked them to move their gear, then that's their responsibility.

What? Ask them to move their stuff and they ignored you? Or did you ask them to move stuff that you didn't actually see in the first place.

You are not painting a very rosy picture of yourself here.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:25 pm
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Look at this another way, you and your mates leave your £ 3k carbon hardtails in the middle of a busy carpark. Someone wants to leave and politely asks you move your bikes. Some of you do, some of you don't. The driver sees the bikes have been moved and reverses over your bike. If you're not bright enough to look after such an expensive piece of equipment then expect to lose it / get it busted.

If you ridden through without warning knowing the rods were there, different story. The fact it's part of the trans pennine trail also suggest to me the anglers should have been more accomodating to other trail users. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it, from what you have said you didn't intend to do it so it was a genuine accident and the lad with rod hadn't taken any action when warned you were coming. I can't think of any other user group we'd be as happy with if they'd blocked the trail.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:37 pm
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he's contacted the club, which seems the fair thing to do at this point in time?

Perhaps some hail marys could be sent via tinternet too?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:43 pm
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I've been along our canal when the fishing matches are on (seems like they do several weekends). They all just stick their rods over the cycle path / towpath and leave em there. Dinging a bell seems to sort it out usually, but like you say, it doesn't half slow you down. You get the odd one who is arsey too and doesn't want to move their gear. Riding up as if you are going to do a trials style hop over their expensive rod makes em move it in the end though. It is a pain even if you're just going for a walk.

Personally, if it was an honest mistake, he left his rod there when the rest of them had moved them out of the way, you completely didn't see it, I'd have said oops, that was a bugger, and ridden off, same as you did. Obviously if you hammered through there shouting out of my way it'd be different, but otherwise, it isn't really your fault if he leaves a rod on the cycle path.

Joe


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:48 pm
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Sounds like you're doing the right thing now.

How about next time a 15mile ride and and hour practicing this?...

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Just incase.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:51 pm
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I think you should go back with a set of bombers and finish off the job.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 12:57 pm
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"What? Ask them to move their stuff and they ignored you? Or did you ask them to move stuff that you didn't actually see in the first place.

You are not painting a very rosy picture of yourself here."

Just remind me, at which stage did I say that I rode over the rod on purpose?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:01 pm
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Just remind me, at which stage did I say that I rode over the rod on purpose?

Quite possibly you didn't ride over on it on purpose but you knew they were there [i][b]'but I did ask them to shift their gear, and they did ignore me'[/b][/i] yet without bothering to check, you carried on.

May I put it to you that you just thought 'ohh **** it, they won't move it, I am just gonna ride over it, that'll learn 'em' but subsequently guilt has caught up with you....


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:19 pm
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Jesus wept, it's like the Spanish Inquisition on here!

I bet you weren't expecting that.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:23 pm
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mastiles: No, actually, I asked, then stopped. The guy in front of me moved his gear, and I (wrongly) assumed his mates had shifted theirs as well, and set off again. You may put what you want to me, (have I landed up in court again?), but you dont know me from Adam, and therefore are in no position to judge my character.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:24 pm
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Did someone mention 'rod'? Surely the Stephen Gately thread has now found a new home? 8)


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:26 pm
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Cheeky bad boy!


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:27 pm
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Jesus wept, it's like the Spanish Inquisition on here!

I bet you weren't expecting that.

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!

(sorry but someone had to!)


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:37 pm
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Spare the rod spoil the child


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:44 pm
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Very poor.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:45 pm
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Probably a fibreglass fishing rod, doubt if you could tell the difference between that and carbon by simply doing a ride-by crushing 😉

Not that excuses your appalling behaviour of course 😛


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:47 pm
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Not as poor as you'll be when you cough up for a £2500 rod... 😉


 
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Probably a fibreglass fishing rod

I would doubt that very much - the majority will be carbon these days apart from VERY cheap toy ones.

Perhaps it was the original cane fly rod* as used by JR Hartley. That'll be worth a bob or two...

*Pedants beware - I know you wouldn't be fly fishing on a canal. Unless fishing for the flies hovering around the bodies dumped in there.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 1:54 pm
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Is anybody else confused by the fact barnsleymitch broke the rod/pole then when he went back the boy had gone?
Of course he had gone what sort of person tries to fish with a broken rod?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 2:13 pm
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What sort of person gives up fishing just because their rod is broken? These guys step up when they call themselves fishermen. I've seen Touching The Void, I know the risks they run when they go out there, I've seen the heroism and the sacrifice.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 2:16 pm
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It seems as though the more I try to explain, the more guilty I appear. There was a group of them, all with a number of rods each, both in use and strewn across the path. Next time, I'll just stick to bursting their footballs or cutting the strings on their kites - happy now?


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 2:18 pm
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Next time, I'll just stick to bursting their footballs or cutting the strings on their kites - happy now?

As long as you subsequently discover guilt and try to atone for your sins before you are cast through the gates of hell.


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 2:39 pm
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No, it'll be purgatory for me, at least to begin with...


 
Posted : 15/10/2009 3:23 pm
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Could be an urban myth warning.

Back when I lived in Pontywaun and knew the boys in Martin Hatfield well there was the tale of a group of lads riding up the canal from Risca to where it stops in Pontywaun to go up the Scenic Drive, the one at the front ran over a fishermans kit and the one at the back paid fot it by being given a beating by the angry angler. He and his bike ended up in the canal.

If you spent the night on a canal bank only to let go what you had spent hours trying to catch I think you would be a little unglued.


 
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