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Now I should point out that I'm not really bothered* by this situation, and neither are the people involved cos we're all nice and friendly and grown up. But I thought I'd post it up as a bit of moral maze discussion.
I started a contract back in 2005, and shortly after I started working with a specialist piece of software. I worked with some of their consultants (who became mates) and discussed a job offer with their boss and a manager. That boss later gave me a contract at one of their clients, and at the end of that we discussed employment more seriously but I still didn't take it up. In October I finally did, and turns out that the new owners of that company have a recruitment bonus. So my new manager (not the old boss) suggests that my mate fill in the bonus forms, see what happens.
So he gets the bonus and it's almost a month's salary for either of us. Now he didn't actually do any referring, so should he keep the money?
Several people might be able to stake a claim to the money:
1) The mate, because he filled in the forms and has worked with me the most
2) The other mate, because he's known me as long and also sold me the job a bit
3) The original boss, because he did the 'recruitment'
4) The new boss, because he suggested applying for the bonus
5) Me, cos I actually took the job
So what do you think should be done with the money?
*although I will be a bit peeved if he pockets the lot
Left as it is, unless said new manager decides otherwise. Most people don't like giving away money that has been offered to them, so any suggestion otherwise will end in tears, however much you are all 'mates'.
No-one has lost out, just someone has gained - the morals of it are not really to be questioned. If he's a good mate, he might take you all out on the lash.
Oh, not option 5 btw 😉
And at some point your new bosses boss finds out they've paid a bonus that didn't really need to occur..., best to just leave it be.
Well the new company is so huge and byzantine in structure that I am positive no-one will ever complain 🙂
My new boss did sort of suggest the money be split...
50/50 split between mates seems the reasonable thing, I've done this a few times now.
Of course.. the lengthy recruitment process left me with debts and difficulties.. but I'm not going to mention that to anyone involved since it'll start getting ugly.
Give it to Charity, u all get paid too much!
I did think of that...
Charity
ILOG/IBM ?
It's not a company most people have heard of...
In our company, it's whoever sent you documentation suggesting that you apply (in this case your mate). This is normally in the form of an email. I have been the boss who suggested to another to email the candidate to apply for a position I had (candidate had interviewed for said other first). No mention of sharing any bonus.
To be honest, getting the good candidate is far more important to a good manager than a cash bonus.
No-one sent me any documentation, that's the thing. The first person to mention the job to me was the original boss, so I guess really it's him. Except that he wasn't the one who applied for it or suggested anyone apply for it.
This bonus is sort of free money that's appeared.
No trail, no bonus in our company. Those are the rules. So personal conversations encouraging external candidates to apply don't count. Has to be Employee Referral with an email stamp on the application procedure.
I'd be worried about your manager's morals rather than any dilemma you might have! Does he try it on with his expenses too?
Thanks dj, glad its not just me with (some) morals
A very good point dj, and for some reason not one that had occurred to me when it really should have.
My manager, the one who suggested it, is the most insufferably anal person I have ever known when it comes to expenses. I booked a hotel this week that was 'out of policy' even though it was cheaper, better and closer than the in policy ones, and he still told me it was wrong.