@martinhutch - yes, the tendency to say "noos" (or "nooz") for "news" and similar words is annoying: "Toosday" instead of "Tuesday" is another one.
Aluminium/aluminum is an interesting one - Sir Humphry Davy who discovered it first called it "alumina" then "aluminum" then finally "aluminium". The international Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry settled on "aluminium" so the UK version is the "official" one.
"me and ..." could be correct and incorrect depending on where in a sentence it occurs but you could easily bypass the problem - "Those belong to me and him ..." vs "Those belong us ...". Saying "Me and him are going to ..." could similarly stated as "We are going to"
The international Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry settled on “aluminium” so the UK version is the “official” one.
True, but so is "sulfur"...
“Me and…” is annoying
Why? If you said that to me and my mates, we'd explain why this sentence is entirely grammatically correct.
Well I’m clinging onto proper speech.
As your parents, grand parents or great grandparents used?
Gonnae gie’s….
Are you from Lesmahagow?
As the father of three who insist on using "can I get"....
Are you from Lesmahagow?
No, my parents aren’t even related.
can i get was standard in scotland when i was a kid - 1980s.
while we're on this sort of thing, anyone noticed on Android, the apostrophe-S for a plural has become standard suggestion. my logic is there must be more people using it wrongly that correctly, so some gooele algoritm somewhere has 'decided that's how it is.
i see red with this sort of stuff but have ot remind my self that language evolves. at least we don't have to use declensions anymore, or hardly anyway..
I could care less.
This is by far the worst one. I couldn’t care less. I could care less clearly means that you care 🤬
Myself and yourself are also annoying when used incorrectly.
my logic is there must be more people using it wrongly that correctly
And there's another one! "than" not "that" 😉 Generally a lot of people get "then", "than" and "that" mixed up.
That'll learn ya
Anyone here complaining about "americanisms" you are now banned from using the word "Hello"
You may use the word "Hulloo", "hallo"or "hullo" but only as an exclamation of surprise
Hello, muddy@rseguy. And **** off.
If you’re going to be a “guy”, why not be an ass?
(Hi, anyway, I suspect we’ve ridden together! 😀 Guy is your name isn’t it?)
I'm with Fry, and to misquote Barnier, "there is a special place in hell for grammar pedants".
arrrrgh! THAT was just a smelling pistake, but my wife does that instead of than.
she gets corrected every time...
If anyone actually thinks that finding "can I get" annoying is pedantry and fits in with what Fry was saying, then, well, they're actually thicker than they think they are.
(They probably say "Can I get" when ordering their Big Mac with bacon too)
1. When someone agrees with a previous comment by posting:
'This',
by way of agreement.
2. Misuse of the apostrophe
3. 'Peddle' instead of 'pedal'
4. 'Send it'
You're all going to burn
A Rewind?
Sir Humphry Davy who discovered it first called it “alumina” then “aluminum” then finally “aluminium”. The international Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry settled on “aluminium” so the UK version is the “official” one.
As i understood it, IUPAC (in North Carolina) didn't settle on aluminium but actually changed the English aluminum to fit with naming standards, the Americans simply never bothered to follow and stuck with the English aluminum. Alumina is and was the "common" name of aluminum oxide as far as I'm aware and was never applied to aluminium.
Re me and my friend. I don't know that my friend and I sounds any more intelligent, or even that ???? and I is always or ever more correct, it's just me and ???? annoys me in the same way as finding my self agreeing with Donald Trump. It's not that it's wrong it's just really really inexplicably annoying. I'm not likely to pick someone up on it but that doesn't mean it isn't allowed to cause me a little shudder every time i hear it.
I find being pedantic about about grammar is what keeps a marriage alive, certainly me and I wife find it so.
1. When someone agrees with a previous comment by posting:
‘This’,
by way of agreement.
2. Misuse of the apostrophe
3. ‘Peddle’ instead of ‘pedal’
4. ‘Send it’
You’re all going to burn
This
So can I get a regular cup of tea from my barista while I swap out the wheels on my new bike to match up the colourway of the frame, before Me and my mates head out to send it??
1. When someone agrees with a previous comment by posting:
‘This’,
by way of agreement.
2. Misuse of the apostrophe
3. ‘Peddle’ instead of ‘pedal’
4. ‘Send it’
Your all going to burn
ftfy
Am Welsh. Can confirm that I sometimes get confused by borrowed/lend so use the phrase "borrow when you're broke, lend when you're loaded" to remind myself. Such phrases are very useful especially when you need to mix acid and water.
Also while growing up had big issues with 'learn' and 'taught'. "That'll learn them" was a common phrase.
Borrow/lend = benthyg
Taught/learn = dysgu
I now get annoyed by people using 'of' instead of 'have'. And people who use 'less' instead of 'fewer'. Which is somewhat grating at supermarkets.
Re me and my friend. I don’t know that my friend and I sounds any more intelligent, or even that ???? and I is always or ever more correct, it’s just me and ???? annoys me in the same way as finding my self agreeing with Donald Trump. It’s not that it’s wrong it’s just really really inexplicably annoying. I’m not likely to pick someone up on it but that doesn’t mean it isn’t allowed to cause me a little shudder every time i hear it.
Take the other party out of the statement, that dictates whether it’s “me” or “I”. So it’s “he was talking to me and my mates”, because you wouldn’t say “he was talking to I”, but it’s “my mates and I were talking to him”, because you wouldn’t say “me were talking to him”.
Literally, WGAFF?
Literally, WGAFF?
Big Writters.
Please don’t say you’re one of those people who thinks it should always be “…and I”, because that sounds more intelligent!?
I do, because that’s how I was taught it should be. I could care less what you think.
Big Writters
Oh very good, actually!
I could care less what you think.
So you do care at least. How much do you care at the moment and by how much less could you care? Whereas I couldn’t care less.
Nothing says twunt quite like using 'myself' and 'yourself' - 'Is that gun pointed at myself? Maybe myself and yourself could talk about this going forward?' Nope - get in the sea.
An interesting one i noticed when living in North Wales was using the word 'keep' as 'put away'.
Got quite confusing sometimes. Was on a course and was told to keep all our equipment. 2 of us carried it with us. Everyone else put it back in the boxes.
They all spoke welsh except the 2 of us. So not sure if its another translation thing.
So where you guys goin on vacation this year?
So where you guys goin on vacation this year?
Somewhere with lots of sick stadiums.
Barrista
A massively over used term in the UK.... Very rarely have I had:
espresso that was:
1. pronounced correctly
2. served at tver right temperature
A cappuccino that wasn't filled to the brim with scalding milk with naff all froth.
A latte macchiato that wasn't served in exactly the same way as a cappuccino, but in a tall glass.
Coffee in the UK is generally shit. The only person I could describe as a barrista was an Italian guy working at Pret around the corner for St Barts in London.
Me and/ and I/ and yourselves......
I always understood it that if you took the other party out of the sentence, would it sound correct?
"Me (and dad) went to the shops"
"The shop assistant sold (dad and) I some bubblegum"
I'm not too sure about which order you should put each person in though.
And I remember once being told by a Theatre Studies lecturer that it was PEROGATIVE, not PREROGATIVE.
“he was talking to me and my mates”
Oh you mean "me and" is ok when it should be "us" and you're just too lazy to form a proper sentence... Eg I was with my friends and he was taking to us.
“Me (and dad) went to the shops”
"We went... or, for clarity if who "we" are has yet to be established "i went to the shops with my dad"
Its all nonsense of course, it doesn't actually matter, not least because spoken language really isn't the same as written, it's just i/me find it annoying.
Language and power are related, hence terms like 'gift of the gab', 'silver-tongued' etc. It's all very well for the likes of Stephen Fry (Uppingham School, Cambridge University) to say it doesn't matter but he wouldn't have got to where he is had he spoken English from the urbs. The ability to communicate clearly and effectively is an important part of fighting your corner and kids are disempowered if they are taught it's all relative and it doesn't matter.
“he was talking to me and my mates”
Oh you mean “me and” is ok when it should be “us” and you’re just too lazy to form a proper sentence… Eg I was with my friends and he was taking to us.
“Me (and dad) went to the shops”
“We went… or, for clarity if who “we” are has yet to be established “i went to the shops with my dad”
Its all nonsense of course, it doesn’t actually matter, not least because spoken language really isn’t the same as written, it’s just i/me find it annoying.
I try to be relaxed about these things, but the me/I thing does grate. You'd not get a frencho mixing up moi and je. When i hear a colleague say "me and a few from IT went to the meeting" it just sounds so wrong. You wouldn't say "me went to the meeting' would you?
“That’ll learn them” was a common phrase.
It was common in Lancashire when I was growing up too, no idea why.
I now get annoyed by people using ‘of’ instead of ‘have’.
Me too, though less so than by the creeping Facebook abomination that is "ov."
And people who use ‘less’ instead of ‘fewer’. Which is somewhat grating at supermarkets.
I was in Sainsbury's last year and they had a "ten items or fewer" sign at one of the checkout aisles. It amused me greatly to notice that the word "fewer" was a patch stuck over the original sign.
I was in Sainsbury’s last year and they had a “ten items or fewer” sign at one of the checkout aisles. It amused me greatly to notice that the word “fewer” was a patch stuck over the original sign.
Cheapskate! Booths got it right first time 😜
I agree "Would of" rather than the correct "would have" is annoying, it's another of those you only notice when it's incorrectly written but not when spoken.
Booths' use of '10 items or fewer' is simply wrong*.
But the less/fewer thing really is bollocks though (not that I mix them myself), right up there with caring about split infinitives (which I don't split), the correct use of "begs the question" (no one gets his one right), or that on the internet a troll is not a giver of abuse, it's a lurer of idiots.
*
you may suppose that some supermarkets are grammatically on the ball by displaying notices at checkouts that state ’10 items or fewer’ (fewer rather than less being the right choice because it’s referring to items, that is, a number of things?). In fact, there were reports a few years back that Tesco had replaced their signs reading ’10 items or less’ with ones which said ‘Up to 10 items’, so as to placate the sticklers. Sorry, no need! This is an example of hypercorrection. Pocket Fowler’s Modern English Usage puts it very succinctly:
‘Supermarket checkouts are correct when the signs they display read 5 items or less (which refers to a total amount), and are misguidedly pedantic when they read 5 items or fewer (which emphasizes individuality, surely not the intention).’
Secondly, in sentences and phrases with ‘than’, you should use less with numbers when they are on their own:
√ His weight fell from 18 stone to less than 12.
√ A person with a score of less than 100 will have difficulty obtaining credit.and when talking about distance, time, ages, and sums of money:
√ Companies less than five years old are the ones bringing us new job creation.
√ Per capita income is reckoned to be less than 50 dollars per year.
√ Heath Square is less than four miles away from Dublin city centre.But hold on, I hear you say – the measurements (years, miles, dollars, etc.) are in the plural, so why isn’t fewer the correct choice? Not so! We use less in such cases because we’re actually still referring to total amounts (of time, money, distance, etc.) rather than individual units.(from https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/08/10/less-or-fewer/)
Miriam Webster
An entire day has passed and not one of you smartarse pedantic bores has seen fit to point out that Miriam Webster is an American English dictionary.
Colourway was one that annoyed but seemingly it's been in use since 1941 so it's probably as old as most of you are.
I will admit that "I could care less" annoys me as it makes no logical sense. But really, there are bigger things to get upset about in life.
not one of you smartarse pedantic bores
be fair, we're not all that smart.
I went on a date with before Christmas, a first date. Had food (informal) then as it was going well went on to watch a film (not that sort). We approach the tills, she says to the lad serving "Can we get some popcorn please?"
I looked at him, then her, somewhat taken aback, she looked at me, and kept looking, saying nothing, an expression of "What?".
"I'm sure we can have some, but you perhaps ought to say what flavour and size you'd like" was what I came out with. **** me, it was all on the board in front plain English, ad there was 2m³ of the stuff in a glass case, what an utterly unnecessary exchange.
I didn't see her again. LOL.
