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But who takes their turds home?  Some hardcore wildcampers are now suggesting this ( there was an e coli outbreak at a bothy because of contaminated water source from too many folk shitting around the bothy IIRC)  I have found lovely campsites surrounded by half buried turds


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 12:47 pm
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If bike packing I take instant sachets ??????

Your kind isn't welcome round here. 😉


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 1:02 pm
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Aeropress go (or just the normal one?)

James Hoffmann raised a good point about the Go..... why smaller? The normal Aeropress is small enough.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 1:54 pm
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Some hardcore wildcampers are now suggesting this ( there was an e coli outbreak at a bothy because of contaminated water source from too many folk shitting around the bothy IIRC)

In the US, park rangers will search your kit when leaving a trail, no poo you get fined.

Never take water down stream of a bothy, a few years ago, in a Sutherland bothy, there was a French lad who was incapacitated for 2 days, from doing just that. He looked absolutely terrible.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 2:19 pm
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Indeed a few years ago I started to take grounds home - an advantage of the drip if I use a paper filter. I too realised I was taking everything other than poop and coffee grounds home, so should step up.

Poop container is a stretch too far for me currently...


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 2:41 pm
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If bike packing I take instant sachets ??????

Heresy and I'm therefore also a heretic 🙂

Enough luggage space issues on short tour type rides through having cheaper, bulkier kit without adding something else bulky just to make two cups of coffee a day.

To add to this blasphemy, mediocre coffee in the outdoors will always trump better coffee anywhere else.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 3:25 pm
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the jetboi8l attachment packs away inside it and weighs 8g.

Its the one luxury I insist on ( well a couple of others actually as well)

ON my big bike ride I was astonished that loads of folk with huge amounts of luggage had nothing to make coffee with.  I used it as an ice breaker on campsites - offering folk without good coffee a cup.  always went down well.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 3:36 pm
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Aeropress go in the van or static camping

GSI ultralight java drip if I'm bivvying

Flask for day walks


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 5:42 pm
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To add to this blasphemy, mediocre coffee in the outdoors will always trump better coffee anywhere else.

This. If I'm truly "in the moment" then the quality of the coffee is a lot less important than whatever else I'm feeling. The same is, of course not true when it comes to whisky.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 5:45 pm
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James Hoffmann raised a good point about the Go….. why smaller? The normal Aeropress is small enough.

But the normal Aeropress doesn't collapse down to a mug sized object with all parts inside it. If you are carrying it in your rucksack it really matters. If you're in a car then who cares


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 6:04 pm
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The same is, of course not true when it comes to whisky.

Definitely!

The advantage of the whisky situation is that it takes up exactly the same amount of space regardless of quality so you can go upmarket with no downsides.

Although I'm also now disappearing down the rabbit hole of scoping out other people's lightweight coffee set ups.

Next, what lightweight leaf tea set up....


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 7:07 pm
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Although I’m also now disappearing down the rabbit hole of scoping out other people’s lightweight coffee set ups.

I might need to weigh mine - ti everything, one esbit, one filter paper and pourer, plastic mug, coffee grounds, lighter...


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 7:56 pm
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If you want a physics lesson at the same time then the esbit coffee maker is great. Fuel tablets are getting harder to come by though.

https://esbit.de/en/products/camping-coffee-maker


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 8:00 pm
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Garage dweller - tea ball - / reusable tea bag


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 8:29 pm
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Kelly kettle.

Tin mugs.

Ground coffee.

Put the coffee in your mug. Add the water. Leave for several minutes. Drink, except for the last bit.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 8:40 pm
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Jetboil, Aeropress Go and ground coffee in a ziplock bag or small airtight pot does it for me.

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Posted : 24/12/2024 9:35 pm
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On a longer trip, a trangia w kettle works for cowboy coffee in a mug. But that assumes you're doing other catering on the trangia for the trip and not a quick night away.

If you work your grounds right you can create a snail proof barrier so no slime encroachment into the tent porch


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 9:44 pm
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I keep my coffee in a very small dry bag.  Takes a full bag from the shops but keeps it sealed from air and reduces in size as I use it.  Best solution I have found


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 9:47 pm
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But the normal Aeropress doesn’t collapse down to a mug sized object with all parts inside it.

I think the point is the normal Aeropress makes a full mug's worth of coffee and had been used for nearly a decade and a half as the travel/backpack/office solution for good coffee. The Go is made shorter to fit in a mug it can only half fill (granted unless it has Tardis like capabilities that would always be the case with this design of the coffee maker).

A travel case/mug for the normal Aeropress would have been what, 2.5 cm longer than the Go's overall size? Ah, but then they can't sell you two products. So you have to buy the new size, see also 650b/29er wheels.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 10:06 pm
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I have both. My Go hasn't been used in forever, I'm attached to my OG aeropress.

This has kept me brewed up in plenty of places where instant was the only offering.

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In the new year I'll be looking at the retention for the inside, needs a revisit to tweak it further.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 10:25 pm
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Posted : 24/12/2024 10:40 pm
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Put the coffee in your mug. Add the water. Leave for several minutes. Drink, except for the last bit.

Top tip....once your coffee has steeped for a couple of minutes, splash a little bit of cold water in. It has an unnerving ability to take the grounds to the bottom of the mug.

I'm cowboy coffee when space is tight and aeropress when I've got a bit more space. Though a very small Mokapot looks a lot classier in an insta kind of way if that's the way you roll.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 11:43 pm
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I did tend to use an Aeropress. But now I tend to brew the coffee at home and take it in a flask. Much less hassle.


 
Posted : 24/12/2024 11:54 pm
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Nobody taking a grinder? Are you animals?

(yes, I’m kidding)


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 8:57 am
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Next, what lightweight leaf tea set up….

I'd just chuck it straight into the mug. It's how my grandad drank it, I was probably in my 20s when I discovered via somewhat startled friends who were visiting that this wasn't what everyone did.


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 10:27 am
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Is this peak STW, or are we building up to NY’s eve?


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 11:44 am
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Next, what lightweight leaf tea set up….


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 12:00 pm
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Aeropress or Hario V60 and filters.


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 12:07 pm
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Various set-ups depending on where I’m going/ how I’m getting there.
1. Snow Peak titanium French press and Snow Peak hand burr grinder for visiting the parents/ in-laws. Enough coffee for the wife and I to cope.
2. Snow Peak collapsible V60 / pre-ground coffee/ Soto burner for camping or sightseeing gravel rides.
3. just got a Wacaco minipresso for Xmas. Will use that with the coffee grinder and burner for post snowboard carpark espresso for designated driver apres tomorrow


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 12:22 pm
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Is this peak STW, or are we building up to NY’s eve?

Think we have a winner

just got a Wacaco minipresso for Xmas. Will use that with the coffee grinder and burner for post snowboard carpark espresso for designated driver apres tomorrow


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 12:33 pm
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I have a dinky little one cup mokka pot which makes an OK espresso (like) coffee.

Or I can do coffee bags direct in a cup and just boil it for extra long (still pretty weak)

Least faff and bulk is still instant sachets, but also least pleasant to drink...


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 12:50 pm
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Drip filter...

https://rockrun.com/products/gsi-ultralight-java-drip-coffee-maker


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 6:55 pm
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Top tip….once your coffee has steeped for a couple of minutes, splash a little bit of cold water in. It has an unnerving ability to take the grounds to the bottom of the mug.

Thanks. Going to a bothy on the 28th. I'll try it.

Is there any scientific reasoning behind such a technique?


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 7:44 pm
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Is there any scientific reasoning behind such a technique?

My first guess was going to be to do with water hardness as boiled water is softer than fresh water.  So adding those ions probably disrupts the electrical charge on the surface of the grounds.  The same way rivers dump all their sediment in the estuary on contact with salt water.

However Google suggests that when you add hot water the air trapped in the coffee/tea expands and causes them to float. If you boil the water then eventually this air comes out, otherwise it'll just reach an equilibrium in your not-quite-boiling mug. When you cool it rapidly those bubble shrink and the particles can sink.

Poop container is a stretch too far for me currently…

With sufficient good quality strong coffee the two tidy-up exercises could tend to be in short succession.


 
Posted : 25/12/2024 10:27 pm
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Thanks thisisnotaspoon, that was exactly the type of answer I was after.

I'll try it.


 
Posted : 26/12/2024 12:57 pm
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Normal coffee bags only have around 15g of coffee. I did a video about Taylor's coffee bags and how disappointing they were and the guys at Faff coffee said theirs were better as they have twice the amount of coffee.


 
Posted : 26/12/2024 3:07 pm
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A travel case/mug for the normal Aeropress would have been what, 2.5 cm longer than the Go’s overall size?

Turns out a travel version of the normal sized Aeropress nows exists, and it's called the Go Plus. The mug is insulated so is a lot larger than the normal Go. RRP is £85!


 
Posted : 26/12/2024 4:16 pm
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For all those making cowboy coffee why not Turkish coffee? Seems like a good solution provided you can get the grind right. In my mind you could have a close fitting cup within a cup to boil it in then decant into the outer one or vice versa.


 
Posted : 26/12/2024 9:42 pm
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Normal coffee bags only have around 15g of coffee

That explains why I never get on with coffee bags, I tend to go for the Rombouts filter things if I'm on the move, they're fully decompostable these days, three quid for ten. A couple of them and a flask of hot water on the go does the trick.


 
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That all makes no sense at all. 15g is a very decent dose of coffee for a normal mug, of course some people might like it stronger but the Rombouts things aren’t even half that much.


 
Posted : 26/12/2024 11:00 pm
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Happy with my Nanopresso. If it didnt exist I’d be happy with an Aeropress.

However, the makers of Nanopresso have just come up with this:

https://www.wacaco.com/products/pixapresso

… a rechargeable espresso maker, so you can make and drink your coffee in a couple of minutes

its quite pricey, but I won’t be able to resist


 
Posted : 27/12/2024 12:09 am
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Rombouts things aren’t even half that much

Hmm that's odd, not sure why the filter stuff tastes more like coffee than the bag then, to me anyway!


 
Posted : 27/12/2024 12:14 am
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15 g did not sound that much to me ( I measure in spoonfuls)  So I checked - 15g is about what I use per cup in a cafetiere - maybe 20g

Maybe the bags are just old stale coffee?  Do the bags not let all the flavour thru?  I have not used bags much but when I have they produce weak insipid coffee IMO

Biallatti mini espress uses 10 -15 g to make 50 ml of coffee - now thats proper strong 🙂  If you want to be bourgouise then these things are brilliant - a bit heavy tho.  Mine even came with a demitasse enamel mug!   Mine is like this but with a tiny enamel mug


 
Posted : 27/12/2024 12:39 am
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I had forgotten that I'd posted this, a busy Christmas!

Wow, a lot of replies! Thank you everyone.  I am reading through all of them and I can see there are lots of options (as I thought there would be).

I suppose the next question would be for recommendations for the coffee beans, which I fully understand is a personal taste.  What would be great is the option to buy sample or small amounts of coffee to taste so that I could find the right bean?


 
Posted : 27/12/2024 9:30 am
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Or coffee paste!?

https://www.outdooraction.co.uk/no-normal-coffee-dark-roast-p22280


 
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