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OK, so on Sunday I was trail building; clearing a load of hawthorn.

I felt a sharp pain in my toe, so I took my sock off and had a look to find a bit of blood leaking from the bottom of my little toe, but no obvious splinter.

Walking was bloody painful, and mashing the pedals was worse. I had a bit of a poke about when I got home, but couldn't see any foreign bodies in there.

Fast forward 4 days and it is still really painful. I had a bit of a dig about with a knife, and still couldn't see a splinter. There is a hard lump which when touched (even with the lightest pressure) causes white hot searing agony. The rest of the toe is absolutely fine and can be prodded/manipulated without pain (so I'm pretty sure its not broken), apart from a bit on the outside of my toe which (due to swelling of the toe) is now rubbing on my shoes and is getting progressively more tender.

Have I got something stuck in there that I just can't see?
Can I really go to a doctor with a 'hurty toe'?
When will the pain stop?!
Can I amputate it myself?

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Posted : 15/12/2011 12:53 pm
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I would guess a bit of thorn went right in deep? Swelling likely to be from infection in that case, pain is pressure build up from pus. If so I usually use nail clippers to cut the thing right open so I can clear out the debris and pus, disinfect it really well and get it healing.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 12:57 pm
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Get to a Dr fast and ask him for antibiotics, you have injected a bacterium deep into yourself and need treatment fast.

Is your tetanus up to date? Anybody who does outdoor sports ought to keep topped up for tetanus.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:01 pm
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It's a well known phenomenon which only affects forumites who always sign their posts.


 
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Minor injuries clinic. the moist likely thing is you still have a bit of debris in there. stop digging about on your own. aletrnatively when the puss builds up enough it wil come out with the pus. I'd rather have it dealt with by a pro


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:04 pm
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minor injuries better than GP ?

Am I likely to be able to get in and out quickly, or is it more like A&E where I'll be there for 8 hours because I'm not dying?

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Posted : 15/12/2011 1:12 pm
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If you want it seen to asap then you could go see a podiatrist (it'll cost mind!)
I dig splinters and the like out of peoples feet all the time.


 
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minor injuries better than GP ?

Am I likely to be able to get in and out quickly, or is it more like A&E where I'll be there for 8 hours because I'm not dying?

Dave

Depends - last time I went it was about 20 mins wait.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:18 pm
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or just cut your foot off.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:19 pm
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Minor injuries best if you have one locally as waits are usually much less and you can just hobble in


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:21 pm
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And Dave left the world with his final words recorded as:

because I'm not dying


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:24 pm
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well... i thought I'd give the onsite nurse a try first.

she has dressed it with Magnesium Sulphate with the hope that it will draw the spiky nasty stuff out.

From the amount of pain, I'm expecting to find this in my sock later:
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Posted : 15/12/2011 1:42 pm
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From the amount of pain, I'm expecting to find this in my sock later:

I might ask Santa for one of those in my stocking.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:31 pm
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I might ask Santa for one of those in my stocking.

<makes note to be careful handling stockings in case Santa's put one of those in>


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:41 pm
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I did the same, ended up with cellulitis. And several days in hospital on a drip, being severely warned by a medic as to my complete stupidity for ignoring it.

Get it seen to by a proper medic.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:47 pm
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Go to an NHS drop in center and tell the receptionist youve got a small prick, in your little toe, you should get a responce when she has picked herself up off the floor.

Seriously people have died quite quick from small pricks off rose buses, theyre a serious cause of infection.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:54 pm
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the nurse didn't seem to think that infection was likely, just told me to leave the mag sulphate on overnight, then have a hot shower in the morning and see if there is any change.

not sure what i'd do after that... repeat maybe?

dropping dead from an 'owie' in my toe is not high on my list of things to do this weekend.

Dave


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:57 pm
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Well, there is change, isn't there. It's swollen and painful. Stop being macho (MTFD?) and go get it sorted.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:58 pm
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1. Photo
2. Squeeze
3. Photo of puss
4. Post photos


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:59 pm
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there isn't any pus... it is just a bit swollen where it is rubbing on my shoe.

absolutely no pain as long as I am not prodding it, or wearing shoes.

Dave


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 3:00 pm
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Buy some bigger shoes?


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 3:22 pm
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Spider bite? nom


 
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it could be just the end of a thorn, buried in your toe, slowly working it's way into your body until it enters a large artery and get carried along in the flow until you feel a sharp pain in your head or your heart as the tiny piece buries itself into a vital organ. don't worry, the pain won't last for long.


 
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it could be just the end of a thorn, buried in your toe, slowly working it's way into your body until it enters a large artery and get carried along in the flow until you feel a sharp pain in your head or your heart as the tiny piece buries itself into a vital organ. don't worry, the pain won't last for long

It could be worse than that, it could be carbon fibre from a previous crash in which case as above but quicker.


 
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That's ok then, if it's gone into an artery down by my toe, I should be fine.

Obviously if it had gone into a vein, I'd be more worried 😀

Dave


 
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Well, at this stage I'd say quicker is better.

Obviously if it had gone into a vein, I'd be more worried

Oh it's too big to go into a vein, it will have to work it's way on in. You'll know when it gets near your brain, it starts to affect your pedantry gland


 
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you missed a full stop out there.

AARRRRRGHHHHH!!! I'm going to die!!


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 3:53 pm
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I'll cut your toe off if you like..

Promise it won't hurt (much) I need the practice see..


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 3:58 pm
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I'm sure that the above is correct (ie splinter) but don't ignore a sore toe for long. It can also be a symptom of diabetes and the context you describe could be coincidental. I hope not, but a family member had this.


 
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I felt a sharp pain in my toe, so I took my sock off and had a look to find a bit of blood leaking from the bottom of my little toe, but no obvious splinter.

Did you have shoes on? If you did, have you tried looking at the sole to see if something stuck in it?

If you are a hobbit, disregard the above.


 
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!Hobbit. Had shoes on, and had also changed my shoes outside (spds and work shoes for digging)

didn't find anything in either of my shoes, or in my sock. Was starting to question whether it was a splinter at all, but thinking more about it, it does sound like something big has gone in and come out, leaving the tip behind.

I'm filtering out the doom mongers though... getting a splinter is not likely to have given me the bad AIDS. It just bloody hurts 🙂

Dave


 
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I'm filtering out the doom mongers though... getting a splinter is not likely to have given me the bad AIDS. It just bloody hurts

Unless someone put the bad AIDS on the end of the splinter


 
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I got a splinter while chopping wood a few months ago. I could see a tiny little bit sticking out of my little finger but couldnt get hold of it with fingers teeth or pliers.

Left it for a couple of days and my finger kept getting bigger so went to the doc who sent me to A&E. They looked at it and eventually x-rayed it but it didn't show anything so they sent me home.

Two days later my finger was still throbbing and nicely red at this point and I gave it another squeeze. Nice little spurt of puss followed immediately by a splinter about the thickness of a needle but about 15mm long - damn thing had nearly gone right through my finger.

It felt a lot better after that.

Hope that helps 🙂


 
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Unless someone put the bad AIDS on the end of the splinter

Can you get good AIDS? Just interested as everyday is a school day for me. Don't want it by the way, quite happy with my arthritic bones and tinnitus.


 
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I think it's going to be a combination of AvDave and CharlieMongus' answers: carbon fibre + bad aids 😯 you're screwed!


 
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So am I the only one around here who performs minor surgery on himself? In my defence I did learn it from my doctor dad who regularly used our dinner table as inpromptu operating table, and who taught me that a fresh stanley knife is as good as damn it sterile!


 
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I'm filtering out the doom mongers though

Just because we're doom-mongers doesn't mean you're not doomed. Doom, doom, doom.


 
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Can you get good AIDS? Just interested as everyday is a school day for me.

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So am I the only one around here who performs minor surgery on himself?

nope definitely not - my toe bears the evidence of my attempted surgery - couple of big holes, trying to find the splinter. Hopefully I haven't made it worse.

Dave


 
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Is it hurting real bad yet... ???

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[img] [/img]

It'll all end in (t)ears.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 5:49 pm
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Fast forward I'm bored


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 5:53 pm
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Did Van Gogh get a splinter in his ear?


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 5:58 pm
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sorry that i'm not dying fast enough.

do you want me to set up a webcam on my toe for live splinter news?

Dave


 
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Fast forward I'm bored

Patience lad, we're predicting a slow, painful death...with lots of very hammed up 'I'm too young to die' stuff


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 6:07 pm
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Did Van Gogh get a splinter in his ear?

Not sure, but Admiral Lord Nelson got one, he didn't last very long at all.


 
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with lots of very hammed up 'I'm too young to die' stuff
and some plaintive 'but it was just a splinter' action as well.


 
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Jeeze, attention hoare, here you go...

[img] http://paperlicious.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8354cc05369e20148c8419831970c-500wi [/img]


 
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There doesn't feel that bad now huh?

(don't click the link if you are scream ish)


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 7:05 pm
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My son put a garden fork through his boot and foot at the allotment when he was about 4.

Took him to children's hospital where was seen by a south African doctor.

'what have you done?'

'put a fork through my welly'

Now to a south African an 'i' and an 'e' can sound very similar, so with a wince asked my son to pull his trousers down so the wound could be inspected.

Once everyone understood there was a language barrier the foot was x-rayed and appropriate treatment administered

Get it treated before your foot falls off is my advice.


 
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Now to a south African an 'i' and an 'e' can sound very similar

😀 welly, welly funny


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:31 pm
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if it only hurts when you touch it, have you checked your finger just in case there is something sharp sticking out of it?

Just a thought, no need to say thanks.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:48 pm
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um what bike have you got, razor blade , vodka, rags, ha ha pmsl franksinatra.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:51 pm
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Has your toe fallen off yet?


 
Posted : 16/12/2011 8:43 am
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if it only hurts when you touch it, have you checked your finger just in case there is something sharp sticking out of it?

😆


 
Posted : 16/12/2011 9:20 am
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toe still hurts... the magnesium sulphate did nothing.

had a christmas do last night... much anaesthetic alcohol administered. feel pretty rough this morning so the pain in my toe is still numbed - bigger shoes are helping too.

😆 @franksinatra

Dave


 
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for gods sake man stop torturing us!

we need pictures to accurately diagnose the method and length of time of death...


 
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pictures would shatter the illusion - it really doesn't look very impressive

it just looks like a slightly manky, blokes toe with a few gouge marks where an idiot has tried to slice it open with a penknife but bottled out of cutting anywhere deep enough to find the splinter.

Dave


 
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"unimpressed"


 
Posted : 16/12/2011 10:29 am
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Take it to your local A&E or walk-in centre.


 
Posted : 16/12/2011 10:33 am
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Take it to your local A&E or walk-in centre.

For god sake shut up, that would spoil our fun.

*We only watch F1 for the crashes*


 
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<update>

I went to minor injuries at tewkesbury hospital on my way home... had about a 30 minute wait (on my own in the waiting room).

The nurse said that it doesn't look infected, but given that they can't see the splinter (if that is what it is), the risks of them opening it up and having a dig about outweigh the risks of leaving it in there.

so, I've got to put up with it and wait for a) infection and death, or b) my body to expel the foreign object at high speed across the room.

Dave


 
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**prays for B**

Although what if there's a child's face on the other side of the room?


 
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Does it look like this yet?

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Posted : 16/12/2011 6:33 pm
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Toe still attached then?


 
Posted : 19/12/2011 7:28 pm
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*googles 'popping worlds biggest zit'*


 
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Maybe he didn't leave his stw logon details with his next of kin


 
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I was out getting pissed with the neighbours.

Toe is still attached and still very painful. Got a big red lump at the 'injury site' now, hopefully it isn't chlamydia or leprosy or anything like that.

Got to ride to work tomorrow because her indoors needs the car, guess this'll be the acid test as to whether I can man up and take the pain.

Dave


 
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Are you sure it's not something like gout?


 
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< Sees aracer's been on RGB again... >


 
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Update / Thread Resurrection:

I've been in pain with this bloody toe for about a month and a half now. It had dulled to the point where it wasn't hurting unless I prodded it, and I could walk and ride without too much pain if I was careful to keep my toe in the right position.

Last week it got a bit swollen, and I squeezed some pus out of it... thought I might finally get some relief, but no change and nothing came out.

Last night, I was having another prod at it, and I could feel something pointy near the surface. I changed tactic and scraped my nail across the 'entry point'... this bloody hurt, but i could feel i was touching something hard. I kept at it and the end of something shiny popped out.

I pulled on it, and to my amazement, this came out:

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(not the 1p, the piece of wire).

NO WONDER IT HURT SO MUCH!!!! I@VE HAD A SODDING TENT POLE SKEWERING MY TOE!!!

I had been getting pain on the other side of my toe, which I had put down to my swollen toe rubbing, but it appears that the pain was because the kebab skewer in my toe was trying to force its way through the skin over there too!

I must have picked it up on my socks from the garage floor or something - I just assumed that it would be hawthorn because of what I was doing when the pain started.

Pain free today for the first time in ages.... amazing feeling!

Dave


 
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well bu**er me!

you poor guy!


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 10:51 am
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should have listened to the 'go on have a squeeze' brigade 😉


 
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should have listened to the 'go on have a squeeze' brigade

I did! I've barely left the thing alone, I even attacked it with a penknife and couldn't find anything.

Unbelievable when I was pulling it out... it kept on coming!

Dave


 
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Ay caramba.

Shocking (but not wholly surprising) the doc's didn't find owt.


 
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The nurse at minor injuries said it wasn't worth giving it an x-ray, because it was probably wood (hawthorn) and wouldn't show up.

Would have made an interesting picture if they had though!

Dave


 
Posted : 24/01/2012 11:03 am
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Sue them !!

I got the end of a needle embedded in my knee when I was a kid, when the Doc realised what it was I got flung in the back of an ambulance and carted off to the hospital for immediate surgery.

It can get in your bloodstream and kill you when it gets to your heart, they said.

(er this wasn't in the UK and we did have private medical insurance mind)


 
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Sue them !!

Err... No.

(hopefully you were joking)

Dave


 
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