My dad went to Tesco's and the checkouts had big queues except one which was empty.
On approaching the conveyor belt the lady stopped him and asked if he had any alcohol. She pointed to her sign that said she was a Moslem and would not sell alcohol.
There was no mention of a refusal to sell shelfish or pork products.
My understanding of it is that they are not allowed to consume intoxicating liquor.
Touching a tin should be fine.
Does this mean the lady in question would refuse to sell or use hand sanitizer?
It's 'Muslim'.
My understanding of it is that they are not allowed to consume intoxicating liquor.
Touching a tin should be fine.
Does this mean the lady in question would refuse to sell or use hand sanitizer?
Why don't you ask her, improve your understanding?
Prediction: This does not end (or for that matter, begin) well.
Oh god, here we go again. Ones only just been closed....
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'Refused service' threads are like buses around here. Poor Mark will be playing whack-a-mole.
I think you want the Daily Mail comments section...
I'll say it, did this actually happen to your Dad, or did you just hear this tale and think it would be more engaging if it was more personal?
In 2016 a Tesco worker refused to sell someone Alcohol because of their religion, Tesco apologised so it's unlikely they would have made a policy allowing for it.
to her sign that said she was a Moslem and would not sell alcohol.
presumably she spelled it correctly though? as Moslem (or more specifically the pronunciation Moz-lem) is offensive to many arabic people?
Does this mean the lady in question would refuse to sell or use hand sanitizer?
So now we know you are trolling...
I'm not sure what the problem is - there is a short queue for people who don't want booze. Its like a cash only, or card only till, or 9-items or less. Her religious belief mean she doesn't want to help people get drunk - her employer have chosen to support her in that and help customers who just want to buy a loaf and a pint of milk. Would you be upset if they did the same with their under 18 till staff, rather than asking a supervisor to OK the sale?
Jesus Christ, close the thread.
Bloody Tesco, always putting prophets before customers
Kettle is on.
Lemon shortbread, anyone?
My friend who is Muslim does not go in to any area where alcohol is being consumed, it is his personal choice and forms part of his beliefs. As with any set of beliefs there are varying degrees of it and some may not want to handle alcohol, so if that is the case with her, then fair play. If Tesco want to employ her and support her with these, then good on Tesco. I very much doubt Tesco would have had a sign up announcing her religious beliefs, am sure it would have just been a no alcohol served here line.
Is it really suitable flying to ask Jesus to close the thread? 😉
I would expect it is the preference of the individual and her right is begin fully met by the company. Personally I dont know the ins and outs of each religion or sub divisions, but why question, when its clear all that does is cause yet more division.
Smile ,nod, no alcohol(I mean who buys alcohol on a Wednesday ?? ) shop done, smiles all around no probs.
I thought you clever geeks were aware of why division is so dangerous.
Bloody Tesco, always putting prophets before customers
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My dad went to Tesco’s
It's Tesco. Unless he went to multiple Tesco stores, then it would be Tescos.
Were there any Clydesdale £20 notes used in the incident?
I found that's a sure fire way to cause a stir at most checkouts south of the border. 😉
I'll take "things that didn't happen" for $200 please, Alex.
I'm inclined to close this thread, for reasons of timing if nothing else. What do other readers think?
As far as i am aware it is Tesco policy that employees who cannot handle items such as alcohol do not work on the till.
What do other readers think?
...and bury the "prophets before customers" line?
That'd be the real blasphemy here.
wow, 2020 and people still think like this.
I’m inclined to close this thread, for reasons of timing if nothing else. What do other readers think?
I think it should be re-titled to "man buying alcohol had to stand in slightly longer queue".
I think it should be re-titled to “shopkeeper tries to cause scandal about more successful shopkeeper”.
I'm as much an alcoholic as the next chap but even I don't buy booze each and every time I go to the supermarket.
It was so busy that all the checkouts had huge queues but not a single person was just in for bread and milk?
I smell bullshit.
3 years ago in Marrakech I remember lager brewed in Casablanca served in restaurant, mosques every other street
Close it Mark, although the prophets comment was the highlight!
I bought cheap cider after the school drop off one morning. I was only making a slow cook casserole but holy shit did I feel like a wrong-un. A £15 bottle of White Burgundy on the other hand...
I’m inclined to close this thread, for reasons of timing if nothing else. What do other readers think?
I might be in the minority here but think it's best to let Trolls have their threads, and let them run their inevitable course...
He's entitled to bait us lefty, tree hugging, tolerant types just as we're apt to point out his errors in understanding/blatantly made up scenarios... 🙂
Otherwise the next thread will be some "cancel culture" BS...
Oh No! Too Late.
Tesco Langley Eastbourne if anyone wants to double check.
What a coincidence, my parents used to shop there when I was a kid. I've nothing more to add.
Close it Mark, although the prophets comment was the highlight!
+1 😀
Poor Mark will be playing whack-a-mole.
whack-a-troll more likely
Awesome work Kilo
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Otherwise the next thread will be some “cancel culture” BS…
Oh No! Too Late.
^ (Sad face) That thread was about examining ‘cancel culture’
Was not a ‘troll‘ thread. Actually put a lot of late hours into researching that thread/factchecking much crap. Turned out to be a spirited discussion with some good-natured thread, with conflicting satire from differing spectra? IIIRC?
YMMV. Obv will try harder next time to engage more commenters. But ... factchecking is time-consuming and wearing whilst b*llshit is instant, effecting, and rarely required to give evidence.
so the moral of this story is that large corporations should somehow be less understanding about the rights of everyday citizens, that they themselves choose employ because otherwise some random guy might get confused about what he knows. either that or the Russian China propaganda spybots have managed to infiltrate the singletrack forums as well as most of the social media platforms. nowhere is sacred
wow, 2020 and people still think like this.
I would guess around 60% of UK people think like this. That is probably a low guess as well.
I got refused alcohol in Morrison's once as I didn't have any ID.
I was going to take umbrage at the outrage and embarrassment but decided to take it is a compliment and confirmation of my youthful good looks.
I was 35 at the time
I was all spotty and greasy at 18, looked much better at 35
I used to work on a till in Safeway and wasn't able to serve customers with alcohol as I was under 18.
I had a little sign on my checkout and everything.
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
Is that what the woman in this case was doing or are you just making a generalisation?
I had a little sign on my checkout and everything.
But did the sign say you were moslem. If it did you are all the same, bunch of hypocrites the lot of you.
Freedom of conscience - protected by law.
Freedom to buy booze in as quick and convenient manner as you like - not necessary to protect by law.
Some forms of entitlement are so powerful and ingrained that the sufferer can only see this entitlement reflected back at them in every interaction that doesn't meet their ridiculous standards. Hence the indignation.
My advice is that the OP's (imaginary?) father shop at Aldi, they don't muck about, till wise. Pretty dreadful to their staff, too.
It certainly did happen.
Feels like you are maybe falling into a pattern of trying to frame mildly racist suggestions about the conduct of non-whites (assumption) in the retail and service sectors as if they are innocuous questions, every few weeks...
I'd just delete your FB account.
This story most likely didn't happen due to:
As far as i am aware it is Tesco policy that employees who cannot handle items such as alcohol do not work on the till.
I know Morrison's won't put someone on a till who would refuse to sell anything they stock, same as they won't put anyone under 18 on the meat or fish depts as they cannot use knives. I currently work with a few people who are Muslims, they work as pickers for the home delivery department and not one of them have a problem touching any items. They wouldn't drink or eat some of it but there is nothing stopping them for doing their jobs whatsoever.
back in my day you could go in to any national supermarket and see the management being real nasty to the people that work there. one lady on the checkout was refused a toilet break, wet herself and then died on the till, all because she drank too much of the Kool aid
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Bloody Tesco, always putting prophets before customers
I will never not repost this!
I remember being trapped in a Carrefour in Riyadh for half an hour as the staff walked out and pulled the shutters down for evening prayer. Nobody died.
I would guess around 60% of UK people think like this. That is probably a low guess as well.
Let me factcheck with Leftie Gulag Pravda Ipsos MORI
Britons believe it to be almost one in six. That would mean there were almost 10 million Muslims in the UK when in reality there are 2.8 million.
Britons also think the UK’s Muslim population is growing much faster than it is. Those surveyed believed 22 per cent of the population will be Muslim by 2020
Still not as distorted as French perceptions. ie
But Britons—both Muslims and non-Muslims—can take some solace that their country suffers from less distortion than France. Its secular suspicion of all religion has been visited more intensely on Muslim communities in the wake of recent jihadi attacks. And the French guess that 40 per cent of their population will be Muslim by 2020; the best estimate is around 8 per cent. That 40 per cent guess would be the equivalent of every adult French man being Muslim. Anyone with any command of numbers should be able to see this is absurd—but such is the ability of bad news and suspicion to warp the mind.
the OP’s (imaginary?) father
Imaginary father, eh? Has anyone thought to base a religion on that?
Lemon shortbread
You monster
Jesus ChristAllah, close the thread.
FTFY
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I'd recommend everyone read it before posting here.
…and bury the “prophets before customers” line?
That’d be the real blasphemy here.
I'm not a fan of shutting down threads so early, but in this case it mosque be done.
As long as the father doesn't try buying (holy) spirits in Tesco.
I’d recommend everyone read it before posting here.
And come back better informed? I think we'll stick with "our understanding" and "as far as we're aware", thankyouverymuch.
I'm not questioning that some version of your story happened.
I just find it hard to believe that Tesco would have huge queues on all tills and the good Christian staff members working flat out while the 'Moslem' girl sat there with her thumb up her arse because each and every customer was buying alcohol.
Sounds unlikely to me.
^ (Sad face) That thread was about examining ‘cancel culture’
Was not a ‘troll‘ thread. Actually put a lot of late hours into researching that thread/factchecking much crap. Turned out to be a spirited discussion with some good-natured thread, with conflicting satire from differing spectra? IIIRC?
I know, I participated briefly (well reposted someone elses video IIRC) TBH I like the fact that STW has a few more reasoned debate threads, this was the only one on the topic of "Cancel culture" I was aware of...
YMMV. Obv will try harder next time to engage more commenters. But … factchecking is time-consuming and wearing whilst b*llshit is instant, effecting, and rarely required to give evidence.
Oh Crikey! I'm sorry Don't take an out of context linking to heart, it's just interweb ramblings.
It's not like anyone really pays attention or cares.
You start a thread and it becomes whatever it will become: Debate, Circular argument or Troll stomping melee...
You are valued and appreciated...
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I’d recommend everyone read it before posting here.
It absolutely was. Thanks. I'd go further and say... "That buzzfeed article is worth a read, before reading any more of this thread".
Moslem’ girl sat there with her thumb up her arse
Just out of interest I’d like to know if that’s allowed in Tesco. Asking for a friend.
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
i mean its almost like people have choice when it comes to how they want to follow their religious beliefs. Its like saying you can never have one drink you gotta get blind drunk all the time. Do yourself a favour and take this up with your edl mates im sure they care a lot.
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I’d recommend everyone read it before posting her
Ditto
But having read it I'm going to continue not taking the OP or his thread seriously now...
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
Shoulda gone to the Satanist on checkout 13 then.
Do yourself a favour and take this up with your edl mates im sure they care a lot.
I seem to recall the OP is a LibDem, certainly very pro EU.
Shoulda gone to the Satanist on checkout 13 then.
Nah, I'm going to checkout 14.
It's the neighbour of the beast.
Do yourself a favour and take this up with your edl mates im sure they care a lot.
I've been hanging about here too much. I thought you meant his mates on the Friday Eat Drink Listen thread.
Nah, I’m going to checkout 14.
It’s the neighbour of the beast.
You mean 664 (or 668), right?
I seem to recall the OP is a LibDem, certainly very pro EU.
Just because you're lib dem, pro eu and maybe left leaning doesn't mean you cant / don't have prejudices. which imo seem to be on display here.
I’ve been hanging about here too much. I thought you meant his mates on the Friday Eat Drink Listen thread.
Every time we get a request from Severn Trent Water, they often shorten their name to an acronym, I have to double take...
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
This is getting re-quoted a fair bit but is it really, as you claim, your point OP?
I mean you're actually saying that this (made up) incident, where nobody broke a law or came to any harm (mainly because it didn't happen), has opened your eyes to the hypocrisy of all organised religion and the general variability of devoutness of practise?
That is actually the lesson you've taken away from this whole thing (that never happened)... For real?
I reserve my outrage for things that actually happened.
Just because you’re lib dem, pro eu and maybe left leaning doesn’t mean you cant / don’t have prejudices. which imo seem to be on display here.
I am very well aware of that - indeed they seem to be more common - which is why I enjoy these threads so much, they are comedy gold.
Oh, I have a mildly boring Tesco / alcohol tale.
Years ago, I went to Tesco to buy amongst other things some alcohol-free beer. As I recall, my then-girlfriend was on antibiotics at the time. This was like 1am and back in the day when licensing laws restricted alcohol sales to certain times of the day but I figured, alcohol free right?
Got to the checkout with an armful of Becks Blue only to be told they couldn't sell me alcohol. I pointed out that it was alcohol free, she went "oh yeah" and scanned it, to be met with 'computer says no.' I protested, she dragged over a supervisor.
The supervisor told me that, even though it was alcohol-free, there would actually be traces of alcohol in the beer and that's why they couldn't sell it to me. I pointed out the tub of "vodka and chilli" pasta sauce that they'd already processed quite happily and offered to go and get a few bottles of shandy down for her to try and scan, to which she replied, "I'll get the manager."
I declined. I figured there's probably not a lot a store manager could do to override what is presumably a barcode cataloguing error and in any case they probably had better things to be doing at 1am. Besides which, it wasn't sufficiently big a deal to be making a fuss about.
They gave me their customer services address which was somewhere in Glasgow, I was going to write to them not as a complaint - both staff were lovely and agreed with me that it was just a bit odd - but out of curiosity as to whether this was intentional and what the reasoning was. Then apathy inevitably set in and I never bothered.
What do you mean, it's surely not trolling. It happened to me too! *
* Obviously it really didn't. However I do remember going to the shortest queue in a supermarket and being asked if there was any booze in my trolly. There wasn't but the young lass on the till was only 17 and wouldn't have been able to serve me if there had been. Not upsetting at all!
Shoulda gone to the Satanist on checkout 13 then.
And its only September FFS!
Oh. S<b>atan</b>ist?
As far as i am aware it is Tesco policy that employees who cannot handle items such as alcohol do not work on the till.
That's what I would think too, I once did a stint of IT support for a bookmaker, and part of the application process included confirming that you didn't have any moral or other objections to gambling.
I find it very difficult to believe that tesco put an employee on the tills with a sign next to them saying no alcohol served at this till due to religious reasons.
Did the OP's dad get confused when he saw the 10 items or less sign at the express checkout? Was the bottle of chabbly item No. 11? heheh, or was it outside alcohol hours? they are open 27 sometimes, but wont serve alcahol at certain times.
Whats the issue exactly? That you had to queue a bit longer in a different line because of someones belief in sky fairies?
There probably PTSD festering by now, I'd see if you can get compo and give up work.
Ooh ooh, can I mention the time I cried on my trainers in Sainsburys?
chabbly
Lovely
I worked on the checkout in a supermarket for a bit in my first year at uni. It was really hard on your back trying to scan cases of beer while seated. Maybe that was the issue.
I find it very difficult to believe that tesco put an employee on the tills with a sign next to them saying no alcohol served at this till due to religious reasons.
I find it unlikely that someone is so devout that they cannot even handle alcohol when it's in sealed containers. I could be wrong here though. One of my minions is Muslim, I'll ask him for his experiences of how common this or isn't when he's not showing as 'away' on Teams.
I find it hard to believe that someone so devout that they cannot handle alcohol even when it's in sealed containers would apply for a job in Tesco where they might be requested to do exactly that, along with handling other potentially problematic products.
I find it hard to believe that Tesco would take someone so devout that they cannot handle alcohol even when it's in sealed containers and place them on a checkout where they might be pressured into doing exactly that.
I find it absolutely inconceivable that not only all this allegedly occurred but they would then stick up a "warning: Moslem" (or even Muslim) Sign of Shame informing everyone of this, it's an outrageous situation. If this genuinely happened then someone needs to lose their job over that. And I don't mean the girl on the checkout. Has your father complained?
On the other hand, I find it rather easier to believe that someone might make up such a tale for a bit of fury-erupting goodness.
There wasn’t but the young lass on the till was only 17
There's been a few posts similar to this. If someone is underage and needs to process alcohol or other restricted items then they put their little light on and a supervisor / assistant comes over and approves it. I've seen it happen many, many times over the years. No fuss, no drama, no badly spelt signs.
Over 200 stories have been written about just three known separate incidents in five years.
200? That’s not even mildly frothy compared to the BBC not planning on having a choir on #covidproms
Did the OP’s dad get confused when he saw the 10 items or less sign at the express checkout?
I hope he objected to it not reading "ten items are fewer."