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I would guess around 60% of UK people think like this. That is probably a low guess as well.
Let me factcheck with Leftie Gulag Pravda Ipsos MORI
Britons believe it to be almost one in six. That would mean there were almost 10 million Muslims in the UK when in reality there are 2.8 million.
Britons also think the UK’s Muslim population is growing much faster than it is. Those surveyed believed 22 per cent of the population will be Muslim by 2020
Still not as distorted as French perceptions. ie
But Britons—both Muslims and non-Muslims—can take some solace that their country suffers from less distortion than France. Its secular suspicion of all religion has been visited more intensely on Muslim communities in the wake of recent jihadi attacks. And the French guess that 40 per cent of their population will be Muslim by 2020; the best estimate is around 8 per cent. That 40 per cent guess would be the equivalent of every adult French man being Muslim. Anyone with any command of numbers should be able to see this is absurd—but such is the ability of bad news and suspicion to warp the mind.
the OP’s (imaginary?) father
Imaginary father, eh? Has anyone thought to base a religion on that?
Lemon shortbread
You monster
Jesus ChristAllah, close the thread.
FTFY
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I'd recommend everyone read it before posting here.
…and bury the “prophets before customers” line?
That’d be the real blasphemy here.
I'm not a fan of shutting down threads so early, but in this case it mosque be done.
As long as the father doesn't try buying (holy) spirits in Tesco.
I’d recommend everyone read it before posting here.
And come back better informed? I think we'll stick with "our understanding" and "as far as we're aware", thankyouverymuch.
I'm not questioning that some version of your story happened.
I just find it hard to believe that Tesco would have huge queues on all tills and the good Christian staff members working flat out while the 'Moslem' girl sat there with her thumb up her arse because each and every customer was buying alcohol.
Sounds unlikely to me.
^ (Sad face) That thread was about examining ‘cancel culture’
Was not a ‘troll‘ thread. Actually put a lot of late hours into researching that thread/factchecking much crap. Turned out to be a spirited discussion with some good-natured thread, with conflicting satire from differing spectra? IIIRC?
I know, I participated briefly (well reposted someone elses video IIRC) TBH I like the fact that STW has a few more reasoned debate threads, this was the only one on the topic of "Cancel culture" I was aware of...
YMMV. Obv will try harder next time to engage more commenters. But … factchecking is time-consuming and wearing whilst b*llshit is instant, effecting, and rarely required to give evidence.
Oh Crikey! I'm sorry Don't take an out of context linking to heart, it's just interweb ramblings.
It's not like anyone really pays attention or cares.
You start a thread and it becomes whatever it will become: Debate, Circular argument or Troll stomping melee...
You are valued and appreciated...
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I’d recommend everyone read it before posting here.
It absolutely was. Thanks. I'd go further and say... "That buzzfeed article is worth a read, before reading any more of this thread".
Moslem’ girl sat there with her thumb up her arse
Just out of interest I’d like to know if that’s allowed in Tesco. Asking for a friend.
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
i mean its almost like people have choice when it comes to how they want to follow their religious beliefs. Its like saying you can never have one drink you gotta get blind drunk all the time. Do yourself a favour and take this up with your edl mates im sure they care a lot.
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I’d recommend everyone read it before posting her
Ditto
But having read it I'm going to continue not taking the OP or his thread seriously now...
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
Shoulda gone to the Satanist on checkout 13 then.
Do yourself a favour and take this up with your edl mates im sure they care a lot.
I seem to recall the OP is a LibDem, certainly very pro EU.
Shoulda gone to the Satanist on checkout 13 then.
Nah, I'm going to checkout 14.
It's the neighbour of the beast.
Do yourself a favour and take this up with your edl mates im sure they care a lot.
I've been hanging about here too much. I thought you meant his mates on the Friday Eat Drink Listen thread.
Nah, I’m going to checkout 14.
It’s the neighbour of the beast.
You mean 664 (or 668), right?
I seem to recall the OP is a LibDem, certainly very pro EU.
Just because you're lib dem, pro eu and maybe left leaning doesn't mean you cant / don't have prejudices. which imo seem to be on display here.
I’ve been hanging about here too much. I thought you meant his mates on the Friday Eat Drink Listen thread.
Every time we get a request from Severn Trent Water, they often shorten their name to an acronym, I have to double take...
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
This is getting re-quoted a fair bit but is it really, as you claim, your point OP?
I mean you're actually saying that this (made up) incident, where nobody broke a law or came to any harm (mainly because it didn't happen), has opened your eyes to the hypocrisy of all organised religion and the general variability of devoutness of practise?
That is actually the lesson you've taken away from this whole thing (that never happened)... For real?
I reserve my outrage for things that actually happened.
Just because you’re lib dem, pro eu and maybe left leaning doesn’t mean you cant / don’t have prejudices. which imo seem to be on display here.
I am very well aware of that - indeed they seem to be more common - which is why I enjoy these threads so much, they are comedy gold.
Oh, I have a mildly boring Tesco / alcohol tale.
Years ago, I went to Tesco to buy amongst other things some alcohol-free beer. As I recall, my then-girlfriend was on antibiotics at the time. This was like 1am and back in the day when licensing laws restricted alcohol sales to certain times of the day but I figured, alcohol free right?
Got to the checkout with an armful of Becks Blue only to be told they couldn't sell me alcohol. I pointed out that it was alcohol free, she went "oh yeah" and scanned it, to be met with 'computer says no.' I protested, she dragged over a supervisor.
The supervisor told me that, even though it was alcohol-free, there would actually be traces of alcohol in the beer and that's why they couldn't sell it to me. I pointed out the tub of "vodka and chilli" pasta sauce that they'd already processed quite happily and offered to go and get a few bottles of shandy down for her to try and scan, to which she replied, "I'll get the manager."
I declined. I figured there's probably not a lot a store manager could do to override what is presumably a barcode cataloguing error and in any case they probably had better things to be doing at 1am. Besides which, it wasn't sufficiently big a deal to be making a fuss about.
They gave me their customer services address which was somewhere in Glasgow, I was going to write to them not as a complaint - both staff were lovely and agreed with me that it was just a bit odd - but out of curiosity as to whether this was intentional and what the reasoning was. Then apathy inevitably set in and I never bothered.
What do you mean, it's surely not trolling. It happened to me too! *
* Obviously it really didn't. However I do remember going to the shortest queue in a supermarket and being asked if there was any booze in my trolly. There wasn't but the young lass on the till was only 17 and wouldn't have been able to serve me if there had been. Not upsetting at all!
Shoulda gone to the Satanist on checkout 13 then.
And its only September FFS!
Oh. S<b>atan</b>ist?
As far as i am aware it is Tesco policy that employees who cannot handle items such as alcohol do not work on the till.
That's what I would think too, I once did a stint of IT support for a bookmaker, and part of the application process included confirming that you didn't have any moral or other objections to gambling.
I find it very difficult to believe that tesco put an employee on the tills with a sign next to them saying no alcohol served at this till due to religious reasons.
Did the OP's dad get confused when he saw the 10 items or less sign at the express checkout? Was the bottle of chabbly item No. 11? heheh, or was it outside alcohol hours? they are open 27 sometimes, but wont serve alcahol at certain times.
Whats the issue exactly? That you had to queue a bit longer in a different line because of someones belief in sky fairies?
There probably PTSD festering by now, I'd see if you can get compo and give up work.
Ooh ooh, can I mention the time I cried on my trainers in Sainsburys?
chabbly
Lovely
I worked on the checkout in a supermarket for a bit in my first year at uni. It was really hard on your back trying to scan cases of beer while seated. Maybe that was the issue.
I find it very difficult to believe that tesco put an employee on the tills with a sign next to them saying no alcohol served at this till due to religious reasons.
I find it unlikely that someone is so devout that they cannot even handle alcohol when it's in sealed containers. I could be wrong here though. One of my minions is Muslim, I'll ask him for his experiences of how common this or isn't when he's not showing as 'away' on Teams.
I find it hard to believe that someone so devout that they cannot handle alcohol even when it's in sealed containers would apply for a job in Tesco where they might be requested to do exactly that, along with handling other potentially problematic products.
I find it hard to believe that Tesco would take someone so devout that they cannot handle alcohol even when it's in sealed containers and place them on a checkout where they might be pressured into doing exactly that.
I find it absolutely inconceivable that not only all this allegedly occurred but they would then stick up a "warning: Moslem" (or even Muslim) Sign of Shame informing everyone of this, it's an outrageous situation. If this genuinely happened then someone needs to lose their job over that. And I don't mean the girl on the checkout. Has your father complained?
On the other hand, I find it rather easier to believe that someone might make up such a tale for a bit of fury-erupting goodness.
There wasn’t but the young lass on the till was only 17
There's been a few posts similar to this. If someone is underage and needs to process alcohol or other restricted items then they put their little light on and a supervisor / assistant comes over and approves it. I've seen it happen many, many times over the years. No fuss, no drama, no badly spelt signs.
Over 200 stories have been written about just three known separate incidents in five years.
200? That’s not even mildly frothy compared to the BBC not planning on having a choir on #covidproms
Did the OP’s dad get confused when he saw the 10 items or less sign at the express checkout?
I hope he objected to it not reading "ten items are fewer."
. If someone is underage and needs to process alcohol or other restricted items then they put their little light on and a supervisor / assistant comes over and approves it.
Not when I were a lad.
It were all mechanical tills then that you had to find the adhesive price sticker and type the price in. No barcode scanners to flag up prohibited items or itemised receipts and no way for the supermarket to prove that a supervisor had signed it off (other than initialling the paper till roll but that didn't really prove anything)
It was just easier to put up a sign rather than risk losing the store's alcohol licence.
I once bought alcohol from a Tesco. True story.
It was so busy that all the checkouts had huge queues but not a single person was just in for bread and milk?
I smell bullshit.
Doing a temporary stint at a local Tescos thanks to covid affecting my business (thanks for the job Tesco! Impressive what they did), I can confirm from my limited but still recent and decent experience that ~70% of my transactions didn't have alcohol
As far as i am aware it is Tesco policy that employees who cannot handle items such as alcohol do not work on the till.
Three pints and bottle of mouthwash was about my limit. After that I start scanning my tongue and giggling.
I find it hard to believe that someone so devout that they cannot handle alcohol even when it’s in sealed containers would apply for a job in Tesco where they might be requested to do exactly that, along with handling other potentially problematic products.
When you need a job you take what you can get.
I find it hard to believe that Tesco would take someone so devout that they cannot handle alcohol even when it’s in sealed containers and place them on a checkout where they might be pressured into doing exactly that.
If they didn't, they would be in violation of the equality act.
Close it ..... everything after Kilo had jumped the shark.
20 years ago my mate Will used to work behind a till in Tesco Buckingham. He used to pass the beer over without scanning it so we could get drunk for free. He wasn't Muslim and he also died very young.
Makes you think.
My point is that religious people of whatever flavour choose the bits they like and are total hypocrites about the rest.
My point is that bigots of whatever flavour choose the bits they hate and are total hypocrites about the rest
That buzzfeed article is worth a read incidentally. I’d recommend everyone read it before posting here.
Exactly. £4 bottle of wine, does that actually exist?
The story was about how Lee Saunders, 35, was refused sale of a £4 bottle of wine by a Muslim worker at Tesco in the London suburb of Feltham, due to her "religious beliefs".
One of my minions is Muslim
One of my minions is Muslim
Grougar