[Closed] Lord of the rings trilogy.............??

The book is epic. A work of such breath taking detail and fantasy.

Films are a great representation also.

Notable minority of female characters.

Interesting that the most memorable was a man-eating monster that lived at the end of a long, dark sticky tunnel... I think Tolkien had issues there, don't you?

The greatest film ever made was "Eraserhead".

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liv made up for it in the film.......

Arwen, Eowyn and Galadriel are all strong characters

If you liked those films, just wait till 'The Hobbit' ones come out - being split into 2 parts, so hopefully they'll be pretty close to the book. Plus Guillermo Del Toro's directing, Peter Jackson producing...
The grip of 'Pans Labyrinth' + budget of 'LOTR'.. as long as Del Toro doesn't take his Hollywood head out (Hellboy 2 anyone?) they ought to be fantastic.

just wait till 'The Hobbit' ones come out - being split into 2 parts

interesting in that LOTR 1..3 stacks up nearly 3" thick in the combined volume yet The Hobbit is only 1/2"...

How lord of the rings should have ended.

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[i]The grip of 'Pans Labyrinth' [/i]

Grip like grease if you ask me,I forced my way through it.

i liked pans labrynth too.......creepy

great films, the 3rd one dragged on a bit though. but im terrible in the cinema if a film is over 2 hours long...

+1 for Pan's Labyrinth although my Missus hated it. Think that the juxtaposition of the fantasy world with the Spanish Civil war is too much for some. Did she really imagine it all...........

Point of order: it's one book in three volumes, not a trilogy.

IGMC

I am waiting for the Blu Ray release, whenever that will be 😉

1) I rode my bike around in Rivendell (illegaly) a few months back - lovely singletrack in there
2) They've started on the Hobbit down the road, i can see them...

^^ BTW contains swearing

hmmm, in the hobbit he makes the distinction that goblins carry weapons different to those carried by orcs.

in the hobbit he makes the distinction that goblins carry weapons different to those carried by orcs.

so it's like MTBers and roadies ??

Fantastic books

Amazing films

If you want to get really geeky about it, read the Silmarillion which is the history of the previous age of middle earth.

It is VERY hard going and i've read the lord of the rings loads of times!

Surely the reason that they didn't just send the ring with Legolas riding on one of the giant Eagles of Manwë is that the eagles were only able to approach Mordor after Sauron was destroyed.

If they'd gone in before the Eye of Sauron would have seen them and he'd have launched Ye Magical Surface-To-Air arrow bombe.

Incidentally there is a ridiculous amount of information about the LotR universe on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saruman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandalf

On the whole eagle thing, from what I remember from the books was that the eagles had been hunted/persecuted by men and possibly elves and as such weren't exactly predisposed to helping with something that wasn't there problem. An example of this was the comments made by the eagle that resuced Gandalf from Saruman's tower.

I'm sure it is covered in the council of Elrond along with chucking it in the sea and giving it to Tom Bombadil.

Loved the books as a kid - read LoTR once a year for about seven years running. Numerous English teachers were then forced to deal with lengthy, pseudo-Tolkien creative writing epics (I hope you are reading this, Tangent).

Really enjoyed the first film (building up to the [url=

done[/url] fight scene at the end - though, again, the film takes liberties with the original plot & sequence). Wasn't so bothered about the following two.

BTW, might just be me, but I always hear the Urak-Hai shout [i]"find the [b]half-link[/b]..."[/i]. Snapped yer chain, mate? 😀

At the start there is no alliance between eagles and the other races. A big theme is 'we can win if we all work together' with alliances being re-made between men/other men/elf/dwarf/ghosts/eagle/ent as the story converges in the last book.

The film missed out one of my favourite bits where they return to the Shire and shit all over Sauramon. But I guess it would have been 8 hours long with that in and having him impaled on a spike was much easier.

Nice deleted scene:

Loved these films at the cinema but couldn't help thinking it was 9 hours of fighting interspersed with not an awful lot. Do the books have more plot and depth?

And they legitimise smoking drugs

Because you need to be stoned to enjoy them?

Forget the extended version, they could have made more money doing a condensed version.

No mention yet of World War Two or atom bomb allegory, or of the anti-modern anti-industrial arts and crafts proto-hippy outlook?

"Do the books have more plot and depth?"

Only if you consider interminable descriptions of imaginary folk with ludicrous made up names walking about and propounding absurd dialogue to be plot and or depth. I consider it padding and suspect he may have been paid by the word. 🙂

Loved these films at the cinema but couldn't help thinking it was 9 hours of fighting interspersed with not an awful lot.

"Do the books have more plot and depth?"

They have so much depth you could drown in them.

Every single character has a huge back story. Tolkien invents several complete new languages. The entire history of the Middle Earth is covered, with lineage of all the races, going right back to the creation story of [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eä ]Eä[/url] (the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth ]Middle Earth[/url] universe) by [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eru_Il%C3%BAvatar ]Eru Ilúvatar[/url], the supreme being.

Basically it is an absurdly detailed universe. That's why geeks love it.

and suspect he may have been paid by the word

he was indeed a professor of language 🙂

imaginary folk with ludicrous made up names

look who's talking :o)

by Eru Ilúvatar, the supreme being.

ie son of Skeletor...

imaginary folk with ludicrous made up names

I think pretty much every name means something in the books, as simon says, he was a professor of language specialising in philology.

I read LOTR last year after last reading it at 11 (I'm now 35). TBH, I really enjoyed the technical use of language - Sumptious would be the word I'd choose. It was a real treat second time round.

He was, as has been said a professor of language and the relationship with his publisher was famously difficult due to him being an awkward perfectionist who took huge amounts of time getting it exactly the way he wanted it.

Point of order: it's one book in three volumes, not a trilogy.

thought it was 6 books, published in 3 volumes? (certainly remember Return of the King having 2 distinct parts.)

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Ha ha, class ^

I'm suprised noboby's mentioned the BBC radio play yet. Absolute genius.
I'm amazed I ever passed physics 😆

I'm suprised noboby's mentioned the BBC radio play yet

I remember that! I found the voice of Aragorn far too wimpy 🙁 Surely that was about 1973 ?

[i]I think pretty much every name means something in the books[/i]

Speaking of names, Grimer Wormtongue (or whatever it is) sticks in my craw a bit- it's a bit obvious isn't it? None of the others have keyword names like that, although I guess they have a kind of 'feel' to them to tell you who's good/bad.

Wormtongue (or whatever it is) sticks in my craw a bit

that's not his given name, it's a nickname! Otherwise you'd be in JK Rowling territory...

"look who's talking :o)"

fair point:)

I love LOTR. In all my years of posting nobody has ever pointed out the origin of my STW name!

Wormtongue (or whatever it is) sticks in my craw a bit

that's not his given name, it's a nickname! Otherwise you'd be in JK Rowling territory...

Ah, is it? I'll let him off then!

He is Gríma, son of Gálmód. Wormtongue is just a nickname.

The keyword bit is actually "Gríma", which apparently derives from the Icelandic word meaning "mask".

Most of the characters do have "keywords" as MrSalmon puts it:

Frodo: from Old English fród meaning 'wise by experience'.

Sauron: originates from the adjective saura "foul, putrid" in Tolkien's invented language Quenya.

Gandalf: he Old Norse name Gandalfr incorporates the words gandr meaning "wand", "staff" or (especially in compounds) "magic" and alfr meaning "elf" or in a wider sense "(mythological) being"

Saruman: "man of skill" in the Mercian dialect of Anglo-Saxon

and so on. (all from Wiki)

the silmarillion heavy going?

you wanna try the unfinished tales..... loads of numbered references to appendices, authors notes etc.

grahams, its good though if you like the immersive detail, and some added details to the stories of the descendants of Hurin, history of Numenor etc.

going to give the history of middle earth series a go next me thinks, you read any of them?