[Closed] Lord of the rings trilogy.............??

Great films but would be better to watch in the correct order! 😆

book was great not seen films but are you riding wed night thats what i wanna know and where 🙂

yes, and i will let you know..

I enjoy the films though they took such liberties with the plot!

sound cheers fella

never seen them, never read the books.

do i really have a hole in my cultural education or is it just goblins having a scrap? (cos that's what it looked like a minute ago when i flicked past channel4)

or is it just goblins having a scrap?

I think it's an involving story (if very long). I've read it at least 5 times over the years.

I thought it was Orc's having a scrap.

Tolkein seems to use goblin/orc interchangeably...

Besides I thought the original LoTR film was better.

Great films.

Watched a number or times, even got the extended DVD box set, Great escapism for me to escape in to the world of the rings.

you see, I have no idea what your're talking about...am I missing out? I like big long books and quite like sci-fi/fantasy stuff (but prefer straight fiction).
The maths geeks at school all read the trilogy so it put me off and I've never got round to the films...should I go for the books first or the films if I bite the bullet?

bedwetter friendly & pretentious,effects heavy godawful tosh which is almost entirely unwatchable in my opinion, the books were mind numbingly crap as well. mind you I do seem to be in the minority, so I could be wrong,

er........... does that answer your question?

Books are better though start off with the Hobbit.

they might be good, but they are no Legally Blonde.

I think it's an involving story

Ever read 1st & 2nd Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson?

I remember having a day hungover when I didn't get out of bed and watched all 3 on the run - it was class. VERY wierd dreams that night though

Hated the books, loved the films.

now there's a film ^^^ . with you there my man! 🙂 seems to be a lack of blond 'fit' in the orc-y thing...

and now there is a tree talking...i'm coming down on the 'it ain't my cup of tea' side i'm afraid.back to sky sports news 😉

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drug inspired??????

Ever read 1st & 2nd Chronicles of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson?

yes, but the rape scene seemed gratitous (and evil) 🙂

book superb
Films superb but they do take liberties.
Yes you have a cultural hole/bad taste (good film BTW by director) IMHO.

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drug inspired??????

yes me to but did not know you did though Ton 😉

Me personnaly I just don't Get Lord of the Rings, Its not through dislike or anything like that. I would like to read the books and watch the films but for some reason they just don't hold my attention, I think IMO they are a bit heavy reading/watching.

Mind you Know where your coming from did similar with The Original Star Wars DVDs

Great films made for good sized TV's

The CGI was a bit ropey in places on the cinema screens.

but the rape scene seemed gratitous (and evil)

I've read both 1st & 2nd books of the Last Chronicles. I was hoping the third might be out now but looks like 2010. Can't wait to see how Linden Avery and Stave of the Haruchai get on 😀

LOTR film may have taken liberties but without CGI making the orc hordes look real any film would have failed. I first read it in the early 70s like a lot of others, particularly rock climbers. First ascents in the Lakes are littered with names from the books.

read the books, including 'Hobbit' first... loved it

Watched all three films...loved it

Thought about it on a second viewing recently and spotted a massive flaw (based on the assumption we all accept this world exists in the first place) .....but....in the first film wasn't Gandalf rescued by a ferkin massive eagle from the top of a massive tower? why could his new best mate the eagle not have then flown him and the troublesome ring straight to the top of mount doom and dropped the fekker straight in there. Instead he goes and forms this little camp gang, "from now on we shall be known as the Fellowship of the Ring"?? says who? We want to be the "Black Hand Gang" etc etc.

Discuss.

PS I can ruin Shawshank as well!

Oh and irks me that they use the same actor for Gimli and the voice of Treebeard 🙁

go on then, tell me about shawshank...:-)

[i]why could his new best mate the eagle not have then flown him and the troublesome ring straight to the top of mount doom and dropped the fekker straight in there[/i]

I thought that too! Legolas on the back of that eagle wouldn't even have to be than close, he could attach the ring to an arrow and do it from half a mile away.

Do you reckon I thought about this a bit too much?

why could his new best mate the eagle not have then flown him and the troublesome ring straight to the top of mount doom

it's called "artistic license" 🙂 But it's possible Gandalf feared the power of the ring in the same way Galadriel turned it down when Frodo offered it to her...

Great movie 8)
Lots of action,lots of humour.
And they legitimise smoking drugs 😀

And they legitimise smoking drugs

I consider Tolkein's smoking propaganda to be understandably quaint

[i]Tolkein seems to use goblin/orc interchangeably... [/i]

I must have missed something, I thought he was very specific about the distinction between Goblins and Orcs.

, I thought he was very specific about the distinction between Goblins and Orcs.

ah, well I [b]did[/b] miss it! What [b]is[/b] the difference ?

The films are pretty good, I thought. I was never a fan of the books, massively overwritten, purple prose everywhere... Good concepts though.

The films did take some liberties but I'll forgive all that for NO TOM BOMBADILO. Inspired decision that, what a c**t he was. Though it would have been nice to have the scouring of the shire in it.

Still keeps plenty of tour guids busy her in NZ.
this is the place where so and so said this to so and so and by this tree here is where the giant orc was tickled to death by that small elfy bloke etc etc.

Films are some of my favorites. Books are even better. Must admit to having read most of the material (silmarilion etc) multiple times.

Did anyone see the Fellowship of the Ring at the Royal Albert Hall earlier this year? Now that was a performance! Live orchestra playing the score in front of the film on a huge screen. Done really really well.

Two Towers in being done next year, can't wait. Get tickets, if there are any!

Great movies - extended cuts are much better. But even Jackson admits there is far to much action.

I read the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant when I was 17 - great series of books

Also try the Warlock series by Christopher Stasheff

and Magician by Raymon E Feist

I also like Terry Pratchett' Discworld and Terry Brooks' Shanharra series

Must admit to having read most of the material (silmarilion etc) multiple times

really ? I found that turgid. I want a proper story.

goblins are just orcs, there are different breeds of orcs (those coming from Moria etc) as there are different types of elf (orcs were originally elves that had nasty things done to them).

I could go on, and on.....

the stephen donaldson books were good but lacked the depth of history that tolkien had (if you are into that sort of thing).

it really is quite scary how much of a detailed universe and history he created, from creation onwards with countless intertwining histories of all the different races, their languages etc.

finally some disturbingly geeky suggestions on why the eagles/legolas didnt fire and forget.....

1) it would have made a shit story
2) Gandolf was a higher being, as were Sauron, Saruman, the Balrogs etc. Thw War Of the Rings was supposedly a long planned game of chess between Gandolf and Sauron, in which Gandolf could not directly use the ring, or allow it to be used by anyone/thing powerful enough to properly use it. So Elves, Eagles (which were very high animals close to the Valar (godlike beings)) were out.
3) It did kind of make poetic sense that the little hobbits overlooked by everyone, had the inner strength to remain uncorrupted.....

It did kind of make poetic sense that the little hobbits overlooked by everyone, had the inner strength to remain uncorrupted.....

not exactly - Frodo did actually succumb to the ring at the last moment only for the day to be inadvertently saved by none other than Gollum!

Love the films of course it's full of flaws what film isn't they are great entertainment.