Liz! Truss!
 

Liz! Truss!

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Why would anyone spend 15mins listening to that idiot?

Exactly what CountZero says, plus CPAC is an important organisation which can't simply be ignored.

Well it can be I suppose but their man is currently the most powerful politician in the world and what he does is likely to effect us all.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 9:27 am
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Her level of importance at CPAC is akin to the hot dog guy 2km away from the Champions League final venue. 

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 10:44 am
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@ernielynch thanks. That sucks. 

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 12:13 pm
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I find it hard to tell if Liz truss content is real or parody. 

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 12:24 pm
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Charlie and Chardonnay, I'm led to believe.

 

Truss is just grifting. There are still enough antivax, anti-lockdown conspiracy theory maniacs out there to keep her in clover. Probably until the end of her days.

 

It's a similar business model to evangelical TV preachers.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 12:32 pm
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Talking of evangelical TV preachers... has she appeared on stage with the newly ressurected Russell Brand yet? Surely its only a matter of time?

Maybe he'll baptise her in a river in Idaho, live streamed on X?

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 12:50 pm
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It's only a matter of time until she fulfills her full potential and sets up a special OnlyFans site where she dresses up as Maggie Thatcher and scolds naughty Tory boys for £100 for 10 mins.

 

The Times (?) photoshoot she did years before she was actually PM was merely a glimpse of the future.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 3:17 pm
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Can we recommend people who need to be sectioned?

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 5:25 pm
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Not Liz Truss. 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/23/kemi-badenoch-wants-liz-truss-to-shut-up-for-a-while

I reckon Liz Truss would be an embarrassment to Nigel Farage if she joined Reform UK. Even he has the common-sense to tone it down a bit. At least in public. 

Has anyone heard Nigel Farage talk about "Deep State" ? And how it's after him ? I can't say that I have.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 5:49 pm
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Has anyone heard Nigel Farage talk about "Deep State" ? And how it's after him ? I can't say that I have.

 

GB News has reported comments made by Nigel Farage on how Elon Musk might take on the task of reforming government in the USA, and on how such ideas might be replicated in this country.

They reported him saying:

This is the sexy bit: Elon comes in and takes a knife to the deep state. Just like when he bought Twitter he sacked 80% of the staff. There are going to be mass lay-offs, whole departments closing and I’m hoping and praying that’s the blueprint for what we then do on our side of the pond. Because that’s what Reform UK believes in – that we’re over-bureaucratised and none of it works. This assault on the bureaucratic state is the thing that’s really exciting.

They’ll all be gone. They’ll all be fired.

Why do we need Whitehall with all these useless, ghastly Marxists? Universities have all become madrassas of Marxism. The whole thing is appalling.

 

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 7:31 pm
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Posted by: mattyfez

GB News has reported comments made by Nigel Farage on how Elon Musk might take on the task of reforming government in the USA, and on how such ideas might be replicated in this country.

Mildly surprised that Dominic Cummings hasn't popped his head above the parapet, this was always his vision - break it all then rebuild in his own mold.

But just like Boris Johnson was a poundshop Donald Trump, Dominic Cummings was a poundshop Elon Musk. 
And Liz Truss I suspect wouldn't have had the faintest clue of what was going on around her no matter what.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 8:00 pm
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It's all a nonsense, of course, as the functions of government have to be run by someone.

What Musk, Farage, and all the other "deep state" believers want to happen is for government to be run by private businesses, preferably ones they have shares in, or a position on the board.  In my experience, this leads to either more expense, due to the profit seeking nature of private companies, or worse services as the shareholders cream off the money paid to the companies by the government.  Just look at Thames Water!

I work for a government funded body as a software developer.  We are nearly always late on projects, but they don't cost more money, as the extra time is most often done via a zero-cost extension.  When we have used external contractors they invariably over-promise, under-deliver, are late and, crucially, provide zero support in production as the contact is up.  And they always use the most junior staff, despite tendering with the most experienced.

The most efficient way to run a government is with a large public sector.  It's just that the vultures can't make money off that.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 9:31 pm
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Posted by: Oakwood

Truss is just grifting.

I dont know.

Imagine dedicating yourself to one goal for your entire life. Namely to become prime minister and lead the country to a new golden age.

You achieve that goal putting you above all your fellow dreamers.

Then imagine the country goes WTF and the only reason your premiership lasted more than a month is the mourning period for the queen when you werent allowed to bugger things up.

Thats got to be a serious hit to your mental stability and you either have a choice of accepting your ideas are rather flawed or just doubling down and blaming, well, anything.

 
Posted : 23/02/2025 10:32 pm
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I find it hard to tell if Liz truss content is real or parody.

Parody was humanly euthanised and quietly buried some time ago, because it just couldn’t match what reality was dishing up.

 
Posted : 26/02/2025 3:30 am
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just doubling down and blaming, well, anything.

If you read the memoires of any PM the thing that they all say is that when you get to PM, the levers of power are pretty woolly. When Truss says that "the state" put a brake on her radical ideas, she's probably right, it probably did.  

 
Posted : 26/02/2025 8:19 am
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The markets did for truss not the state

 
Posted : 26/02/2025 8:29 am
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Posted by: nickc

If you read the memoires of any PM the thing that they all say is that when you get to PM, the levers of power are pretty woolly. When Truss says that "the state" put a brake on her radical ideas, she's probably right, it probably did.  

Thats a dangerous way of describing it, and supports the MAGA deep state nonsense.

You can't upend the running of a country on a whim, as Trump and Musk are discovering. A lot of what a civil service does is governed by legislation, even if its secondary legislation. Unpicking it and "fixing" it, for whatever reason, is unnecessarily/luckily quite complicated and will have unexpected consequences, not least a lot of expensive and time consuming legal challenges. A civil service is there to do what the government of the day wants, within the legal framework. Which makes it easy to blame if you don't give a shit about legal protections and processes.

But it was the markets who busted Truss and Kwartengs crazy plans, not the state. She wasn't actually PM long enough for the civil service to block her plans if it had wanted to.

 
Posted : 26/02/2025 8:44 am
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By "The State" I mean the apparatus of any western democracy that functions to maintain the Status Quo. Included in that are financial interests, the civil service, the judiciary, the media, large corporations etc etc  After all, as you say; we have 'the markets' to thank for the fact that Truss' madder than most ideas were euthanised at birth. Sometimes, their interests co-inside with everyone else's. 

 
Posted : 26/02/2025 9:34 am
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Posted by: binners

Talking of evangelical TV preachers... has she appeared on stage with the newly ressurected Russell Brand yet? Surely its only a matter of time?

Maybe he'll baptise her in a river in Idaho, live streamed on X?

Might be difficult to tell whether he’s baptising her, or trying to hold her head under the water… 🤷🏼‍♂️

 
Posted : 28/02/2025 2:38 am
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after attacking the establishment for bringing her down after less than 50 days in power. 

Well Liz Truss is definitely right about that, it was the establishment that brought her down, the Tory establishment.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/18/dismayed-tory-mps-continue-to-plot-to-oust-liz-truss-from-no-10

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 5:14 pm
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Personally I miss Liz Truss 

 

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 5:22 pm
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Posted by: crazy-legs

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/exclusive-liz-truss-to-launch-free-speech-social-media-platform-this-summer-392023/

The grift just keeps on going.... 

**** me, I saw a post about it on Newsthump and just assumed they were taking the piss again.

 

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 6:00 pm
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She's missed the boat by about 15 years, no doubt it'll be as successful as her political career. 

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 6:40 pm
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A ‘free speech’ social media platform, you say - I could have some fun trolling the stupid woman on that; it’ll be interesting to see just how free I can be with my speech before getting banned! 😜

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 6:58 pm
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Can we predict the only people who’ll be on there?

‘Lozza’ Fox, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson, David Icke, 30p Lee, that anti-vax nutter who used to do ‘Coast’ on BBC2?

I think Farage would even consider it beneath him.

Good luck with that Liz

As an aside, who knew that ‘the home of free speech’ was in Bedford. Every days a school day, eh? 

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 7:35 pm
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Posted by: binners

Can we predict the only people who’ll be on there?

I'm wondering what it'll be called. I quite like TrussPilot as an option. LettuceSpeak maybe? PorkTalk. So many possibilities!

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 7:42 pm
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I think we all know this surrounds their want to be publicly racist, and blame brown people for all the ills of the country.

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 8:40 pm
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It’s tough this. Join to wind them up, but at the same time perpetuate the grift, or let it die a cold, empty death… probably the latter.

 
Posted : 15/04/2025 11:17 pm
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Personally I miss Liz Truss

If you practice lots your aim will improve.

 
Posted : 16/04/2025 10:12 am
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I think we all know this surrounds their want to be publicly racist, and blame brown people for all the ills of the country.

You can do that already on X and many other platforms.  As long as you don't get close to hate speech you can be as racist as you like.  In one way it would be good to read what these people really want to say and get a scale of just how many ****s are in a given country.  Might not like the answer but it would be good to know what you are up against.

 
Posted : 16/04/2025 10:22 am
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