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I've got 2 old sleepers in my garden (railway, not cold-war), absolutely stinking of creosote but pretty dry wood

I reckon they'll go lovely - anybody got any dead sheep/cows to get rid of ?


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 9:29 pm
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Some years back I had a Saturday job in a plumbers merchant. One day a very hysterical, camp looking and sounding hairdresser came through our doors.
He had a plumbing problem and needed a plumber right away.
The experienced old boys just kept their hands in their pockets and said nowt.
But a young new in the trade plumber offered to help. Anyway he went off to evaluate the job, and took it on.
For hours this guy kept coming and going, buying bits and tools and the job was tallying up.
This went on for hours, and you could see him wearing down.
Then he finally exclaimed that he could sort it, and just needed to heat up a pipe to bend it and off he went - again.
Some time later the doors fly open again. In walks this black faced bloke with smoke still plumeing from where his eyebrows once were. And the front of his once spotless overalls were now full of burn holes and still smouldering.
WE asked what had happened.
Well he said, I needed to heat up that pipe, so I got a bucket and filled it up with petrol. At that point we all just fell about


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 9:34 pm
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Us ex. Boy Scouts know that rubbing two Girl Guides together is a sure way to keep warm!

Seriously though, using any accelerant to light a fire is just lame...and very non manly. Even BBQs should be lit by starting with a small fire and using a charcoal chimney to heat the coals.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 9:36 pm
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Seriously though, using any accelerant to light a fire is just lame...and very non manly.

QFT and timber - if you get the fire hot enough green wood will burn. Pallets are amazing for getting a fire going once it's lit but as has been said birch bark is amazing for tinder.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 9:42 pm
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Re the rite of passage thing, I was suggesting that learning to do it safely was the thing that mattered.

It appears you haven't actually yet gone through that rite of passage then.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 9:59 pm
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but if green wood is all you have lifer there is nothing to get that heat in to it, apart from red diesel for example, pallets would have done, but we didn't have them, just a field, digger, dumper and a couple of willow trees and an alder to burn, pretty wet trees as things go.

old fence posts on the other hand are just a few degrees away from spontaneous combustion - perfect kindling for the fire at home.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 10:05 pm
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I once tried lighting a fire by chucking a tin of WD40 on it. The fire exploded and disappeared completely 🙂 (I was only about 10 though).


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 10:44 pm
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old fence posts on the other hand are just a few degrees away from spontaneous combustion - perfect kindling for the fire at home.

Yup I have a few waiting to cut and split. Mind the old railway sleepers I had were bloody good they went with some great heat but you had to get the coal on first as there was not embers.


 
Posted : 04/06/2011 10:47 pm
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but if green wood is all you have lifer there is nothing to get that heat in to it, apart from red diesel for example

Someone else who wasn't a scout under the tutelage of an old school scoutmaster. You can [i]always[/i] find enough tinder to get a fire going sufficiently enough to burn green wood.

If you don't, you don't have a fire. And if you don't have a fire, you don't cook. And finally if you don't cook, your patrol doesn't eat.......simple as.

Which was kinda tough, but you certainly learnt how to get a fire going with whatever was available.


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 10:01 am
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You can always find enough tinder to get a fire going sufficiently enough to burn green wood

Not sure that's always true - often, but always. And there's not much point combing the countryside looking for dry wood when there's a can of diesel right next to you.. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 4:55 pm
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We sometimes have big and i'm mean big fires at work in winter normally burning green wet willow. Best way is to start small and when it's going gradually build it up.

Once your got a good fire going it will burn through most things.


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:01 pm
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Personally I think it singles out those who missed out learning survival skills in the scouts.

I learned all those skills but they're far outweighed by the need to get a fire started ASAP. My survival skills taught me to keep a small sealed container of highly flammable liquids in every camping kit just in case it's pouring with rain and you can't get one going from natural stuff.

The trick to petrol is not leaving it more than about 10 seconds before lighting it (vapour buildup makes for an explosive event) and not using stupid amounts of it, 50ml is enough to get a decent sized fire going quickly and easily and saves finding dry tinder. Any more and you're being stupid and asking for an explosion.


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:05 pm
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My survival skills tell me not to do any more than is necessary and not to waste time fannying around trying to be a "real man" 🙂 Use what you have to hand.


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:10 pm
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A petrol leaf blower can also help 🙂


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:12 pm
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My survival skills taught me to keep a small sealed container of highly flammable liquids in every camping kit just in case it's pouring with rain and you can't get one going from natural stuff.

You've got crap survival skills if you can't get a fire going in the pouring rain without petrol.

How often do you want to start a fire in the pouring rain btw ?


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:41 pm
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I used petrol to start a BBQ like this...

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...and inadvertently got the air/petrol spot on 14:1 launching the charcoal onto the garage roof.


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:55 pm
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Back in the 70s, a "home mechanic" in our village decided to clean out the petrol tank of his car before removing it (the reason why he needed to do this has never been clear to me but, for reasons best known to himself, he did). He used a cylinder vacuum cleaner to do it. Apparently, the blending of petrol vapour and the sparks generated by a rapidly spinning Electolux motor yielded a result worthy of Pratt and Whitney's finest. My Dad told me that they found debris over a mile away, while s***-for-brains himself was left with a Jules Winnfield style speech impediment ever since, but at least live to t-t-t-tell the t-t-t-tale. Apparently, he suffered more trauma from his wife (who was ironing in the soon-to-be-demiloshed bedroom above the garage) than from the explosion itself. True story.


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 5:59 pm
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what about pushing a swing so hard that it wraps itself around the bar that it hangs from..
is this the same thing...?


 
Posted : 05/06/2011 6:45 pm
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I used petrol to start a BBQ like this...

daft, you'll taste the petrol on the food...


 
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