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Seen all of the J class at Antigua classics always liked ranger and Shamrock V!!

Modern wise you need to be looking at team phillips and any of the orma 60 tri's

monos maxi z86's or ecover I like!! No pics far too much effort if the pics are not on my pc!! But Farr has designed done some stunners!!!

For Grumm: Which shotgun is better? Purdey or Holland & Holland?

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Hobie Cat for sheer terror & excitement!

Purdey, of course. 😉

The J class boats are pure elegance. Stunning. I always think Velsheda is the wallflower of the piece, and somehow deserves my attention more!

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Captain calamity

Lovingly known by local RNLI as another WAFI (wind assisted f@@@@@ idiot)

Used to own one of these but had to sell it to Sweden:

Melges 24

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Family own one of these:

Sadler 32

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Quite Fancy a Corby 25:

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And then there is Velsheda, what more can you say other than perfection:

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Speaking as you were of Salcombe, I took this there a couple of weeks ago. Swallows and Amazons forever!
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I had a day on this square rigger a few years back...we had the sails up but had to be assisted by the engine 🙁

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Trident Voyager 35

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My mum and her fella have been busy making transatlantic crossings in one of these little fellas in their retirement...

fair foookin play to them... more balls than I've got that's for sure..

Raced one off these all sumer:

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I'm currently renovating my miracle but have plans to get a dart 15 or 18 in the future. One day I would like a cruiser but that will have to be in the future. I saw velsheda when she was first renovated and have admired her ever since. I recently saw one of her sisters but could read her name she had a blue hull.

Ooh no I don't know how you lot can do that.

I feel queasy on the Woolwich ferry. 🙁

seen this?

Had a Cornish Crabber Coble but it was a bit slow although pretty Su now have a Salcombe Flyer speedboat! Inlaws have a Fisher 46 which looks nice. Slow though.

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That wasnt amazing it was pretty damn stupid and the sea rarely gives you second chances.

I went overboard during an overnight race once and was shitting myself - got back on quite quick and I never ever want to be in that situation again. We did a gybe at about 11kts in heavy seas and the skipper who was a crap helm made an arse of it as usual.

That was on one of these : bull 7000 Sportsboat

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probably not what you had in mind!
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Race this whenever we can:

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I own one of these:
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topper iso has always been my fav along with the lazer 2000 and the old favourite osprey.

im thinking about buying another dingy but im not to sure if iwould use it enough.

Some cool boats here! While not at all good at sailing myself, a lot of my mates are very good sailors.

Ace.

My Dad built a mermaid when I was 2, which taught me to sail
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then we had a topper and did loads of sailing in those with school (a comprehensive before I get judged)

then parents bought a Pandora which was great. Memories! 12 years old, on the foredeck, gybing 300 sq ft of spinnaker..... 🙂
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She was sold due to two sons going to uni. But my dad's recently bought himself a retirement pressie:
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When my boy's about 5 or 6, think I'm going to get a boat and start sailing again. Do some racing with him. Thinking of either a merlin rocket or flying fifteen....

From Cap De Agde in the Souf of France...

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Come chaps, Sign up for the Virtual regatta.

Ah, the Merlin Rocket! We used to host Merlin Week on the family beach in South Devon. (Across the estuary from Salcombe)

Such a glamourous boat, such beautiful lines! So much beer....!

Mmmm, Velsheda. Had a tour over her when she was being renovated in the 70s. Lovely.

I think this is just beautiful:
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[i]Pelican[/i], a Norwegian Arctic trawler converted to Barbary Corsair rig.

Greatly missed:

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Not so greatly missed, but good racing:

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Current family-friendly craft:

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Here's a few of mine (gave it up to return to mountain biking 😆 )

Sunday Morning pond sailing

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Cross channel bimble

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Taking a swim (in the shipping lane near EC1!) to clear the prop

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laser bashing in Minorca

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That wasnt amazing it was pretty damn stupid and the sea rarely gives you second chances.

I went overboard during an overnight race once and was shitting myself - got back on quite quick and I never ever want to be in that situation again. We did a gybe at about 11kts in heavy seas and the skipper who was a crap helm made an arse of it as usual.

You weren't hooked on with a safety harness???

Elfinsafety - Member

Ooh no I don't know how you lot can do that.

I feel queasy on the Woolwich ferry.

Oh please!!

This could be mine pretty soon (assuming it's not a wreck) 🙂
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One just like this could be mine pretty soon (assuming it's not a wreck) 🙂
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Oops! 😆

I want to pack mountain biking in in a few years and buy a Skiff, Musto or 29er maybe. Anyone sailed one of those who can give me some advice? I sailed a Laser about 5 times 20 years ago and that is my total sailing experience! I hear these performance Skiffs are like death on stick which to be honest sounds great.

To me this is the absolute tits -

This has taken over from cycling as my main hobby..

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One day, I hope to have a Swan 60..
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^^^^^ Are you amassing a flotilla up there then spongebob? 😉 ^^^^

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I'd suggest crewing a two-man skiff before heading out in a singlehander. Musto skiffs/RS700s have a bit of a learning curve on them. Compared to a Laser, you'll have a trapeze and a spinnaker to deal with, neither of which are optional. And it's all apparent wind sailing going downwind, which is a totally different game to a Laser. There's always demand for regular crews at sailing clubs, head to your nearest and have a look at the noticeboard 🙂

Love sailing!! (well did up unto a long term illness stopped me about 7 years ago!)
me and my brother in the old boat,
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i'm the one stood on the side, always have been the Brawn of the family!

our old Stripped out 1/4 tonner racer, got clocked at just over 20knots in it one day, Silly silly speeds in a yacht but Oh so much fun!!
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(i'm at the back in all the pics)

pops current boat, out racing a couple of weeks ago,
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on one of the boats the family used to race hard in the local port, (cleaned up for everything for 2 seasons, had a Cracking crew then, S0o much fun!! i used to do foredeck then)
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kite's not quite up due to wind catchign it before we got to the top! was blowing a steady top 6-7 that day!! remeber it very well!!!

had some great times on square riggers in the canaries too, sailed around most the islands, - google 'Jubilee sailing trust', 2 ships, Lord Nelson and Tenacious, no better experience than that!!
used to deliver yachts too when was younger at college, got to travel on some Lovely boats then too!!
decided in the mid 90's tpo turn it from a hobby to a job, worked at the laser centre down here, Great fun, sailed all the laser and dart range except the Hawk and dart 6000, but a lot of laughs! did take the shine of the hobby though! 🙁

brothers still got the old 5oh, but also has a mucho newer one, and recently bought a Tasar so he and his other half can sail together comfortably at the local club (is doing Very well in his first season in it too!),

just something about being out there powered by nature that does it for me!!

Used to have one of these (not me in the pic unfortunately):
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Now got this (back one):
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Oh yeah.... got a laser as well but have got to sell that now 🙁

I want to pack mountain biking in in a few years and buy a Skiff, Musto or 29er maybe. Anyone sailed one of those who can give me some advice? I sailed a Laser about 5 times 20 years ago and that is my total sailing experience! I hear these performance Skiffs are like death on stick which to be honest sounds great.

I've had both an RS600 and a Musto Skiff so here's my take on them. The RS has a powerful fully battened sail and is proper tippy as well - this combination can make it quite a handful. A friend has one and it still beats him to a pulp on a regular basis!
The Musto is a beautiful bit of kit (hardly any bits of rope making the place look messy!). It's hugely satisfying to sail and trapezing off the back of the racks with the kite up in just 8-10 knots of breeze is simply amazing. But over 12 knots and you really need to have good boat handling otherwise you'll spend all day swimming round it. To get the boathandling sorted you really need to sail it almost year-round which I couldn't and was the main reason why it was sold.
You're lack of experience could be seen as a hinderance or a blessing (skiffs are quit different to sail). I would suggest starting off by doing some crewing in a trapeze boat to get you used to being on the wire.
You can sail the Musto without the kite but it actaully helps downwind as the boat is more stable the faster you go - it's turning the corners that's tricky.

I spent most of my childhood on foredeck duty, cruising and racing; lowest moment being raising an asymmetric spinnaker upside down on the start line of the round the island race... never lived that one down.

I owned a couple of toppers while I was at school (bought with my own money), but lived too far from the sea to get into any racing series.

Dad now has an Etap 24i down in Dartmouth... He sails loads with the RDYC, but I only join him for occasional regatta races - I get seasick now, which is annoying!

Dave

I'd suggest crewing a two-man skiff before heading out in a singlehander. Musto skiffs/RS700s have a bit of a learning curve on them. Compared to a Laser, you'll have a trapeze and a spinnaker to deal with, neither of which are optional. And it's all apparent wind sailing going downwind, which is a totally different game to a Laser. There's always demand for regular crews at sailing clubs, head to your nearest and have a look at the noticeboard

I've had both an RS600 and a Musto Skiff so here's my take on them. The RS has a powerful fully battened sail and is proper tippy as well - this combination can make it quite a handful. A friend has one and it still beats him to a pulp on a regular basis!
The Musto is a beautiful bit of kit (hardly any bits of rope making the place look messy!). It's hugely satisfying to sail and trapezing off the back of the racks with the kite up in just 8-10 knots of breeze is simply amazing. But over 12 knots and you really need to have good boat handling otherwise you'll spend all day swimming round it. To get the boathandling sorted you really need to sail it almost year-round which I couldn't and was the main reason why it was sold.
You're lack of experience could be seen as a hinderance or a blessing (skiffs are quit different to sail). I would suggest starting off by doing some crewing in a trapeze boat to get you used to being on the wire.
You can sail the Musto without the kite but it actaully helps downwind as the boat is more stable the faster you go - it's turning the corners that's tricky.

Thanks guys. Great advice. I'll head dow the sailing club and have a nose around soon.

29er is a kidies boat (and needs 2 people).

To get a similar level of instability in a normal boat, buy a lazer.

Go out in about 15-18knots of wind

Try running by the lee....................

Ended up hiking off the transom on the same side as the sail (which is to windward) doing some ridiculous speed and hopeing to god that the nose stays above the waves.

Never again!

My little mirror

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And yes, I know it's missing a sail.

Mirrors are ace! Bathtubs with sails!

Some great pics here, folks, keep 'em coming!

A bit more Merlin Rocket;
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Also, anyone had any experience with the IC? Always wanted to try one. Looks mad.
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Raced against a IC at the Birket Trophy at Ullswater - it was quick and they tack much easier than you would imagine.

If I'd carried on I'd have bought an 8.1 rig for my Laser, great in a blow!!

My old man has sailed the last 40 years,currently got a Prospect 900 & part shares in some bloody twin screw 35ft launch that does 30 knots,he must be getting soft in his old age.Mind he is 77....

love the Int. Canoe! completely mental! bit like the moth but more grown up lol! and without the prospect of hydrafoiling!

being a 5oh'er at heart after many years of one in the family (20 years now!) this is one of the better vids on the tube to make you want to go out for a Howl!!!!

brother and i would get fed upwhen the yacht club ood decided to keep the racing in the harbour, - flukey, shifty one sail boat advantage sailing, and head out and race the Yachts round! had some fun there!!

up until a few years ago, the mirror my pops taught me to sail in was still going!! used to be owned by the sailing club for the kids but got a bit trashed beyond its years!! mind you, is 28 years since i learnt in it!! such good boats!

I've sailed Mirrors, Ents and have sailed a Scorpion for the last 10 years or so. Been to the nationals and used to do all the opens on the circuit- I wasn't half bad once upon a time- I think I was a much better sailor than biker but focussed my efforts elesewhere now.

This is one of the Scorpions I've crewed in.

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spokes, do you remeber a Scorp called 'Shock wave'?? the only Scorpion with Hydraulic shrouds?? used to sail at the club we did and owner was a friend of pops, Cracking boat that!
have a picture of pops somewhere in the house, late 70's pulling his scorpion up the slip, 'Razzle dazzle', was yellow like the one in your picture too! of all the boats he's had, thats the one that left the biggest impression on him!
there's still a good fleet of them at the club now, Lovely looking classic lined boat, and in the right conditions have a suprising turn of speed too!!

Spent 3 days in the Baltic on a barquentine schooner called the Thalassa the other year. Full sail and heeled over as we hooned through Rostock harbour entrance was pretty cool.

We know people who sail race on baby, a traditional bahamian workboat. Some folk are just ballast sitting out on the pry. Sail area is bloomin huge. Boom pokes way way out behind the transom Never been lucky enough to get ride yet. http://www.abacorage.net/

That said, more than happy to blat round in a tatty sunfish.

But who can tie the tightest[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/iran-should-tire-of-yachtsmen-fairly-quickly%2c-say-experts-200912012271/ ] Bullscock![/url]

Did a stag do consisting of a few sailors on this from Hamble to Cherbourg.

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All was going fine until we got out into the open sea - wind hit force 9 and even 10, waves picked up to 15ft. I spent 2 hours throwing up, the rest in a bunk trying not to throw up any more. Out of the 10 on the stag do, 3 were very ill, 4 were quite ill, 2 were okay.

The boat set it's all time speed record (it was built in 1917 I think)! At the time a major yacht race was on and had to be cancelled - many boats went over. All we saw was a couple of massive tankers crashing through the swell while waves regularly broke right over the boat (the Jolie Brise)

Me and a mate took the fast ferry home once we arrived.

Put me off sailing a bit!

Racing on a sonar at the moment, but the best boat we raced was an Etchelles. Don't have photos, wouln#t not how to post them even if i did!

Sailed (badly) at school for a couple of summers, and crewed for a mate on one of the school Laser 2s on hols down at Rock during my teens.

Always loved a particular Fireball that would turn up for Camel week every year - beautifully restored with wooden deck.

Mrs North learned to sail in a Mirror. Now we have Junior North, I'd like her to be able to sail, so will waiti a while then go and re-learn so i can buy her a boat and tootle around off the coast near my mother's house in Ceredigion.

yetidave - Sonars should be banned. When i had the Melges we would race in the SBR fleet at Round the Island etc with them. We were so far ahead of them we couldnt even see them and they would still clean up.

At Scottish Series they have finished 1,2,3,4 for the last few years. THey have since been separated from the proper sportsboats. There SBR rating is phenomenal and with the symmetric kite the planing boats stood no chance.

carbon337, good arn#t they...Not quite true about the placings at Scottish Series, mostly 1,2,3 though... 🙂 I sail on Haggis btw. Having said that over the last couple of years in the Sonar we beat (on the water) the likes of the SB3s, the RS Elite, and a Melges 20 sailed by Mr Ruairidh Scott all far faster rating. In marginal planning conditions the asymetrics should have the edge, in proper heavy wind the sonars at Scottish Series were mostly winning on the upwind legs. Next year at Scottish Series will be interesting as to who we end up sailing against right enough.

I would have raced ypu in the past then on Risky Busines the Melges 24 at Scottish.

Havent been for last 2 years like as our last trip was a disaster with the bearing collapsing on the trailer and costing a grand to get to Tarbet from Lochgilphead - total nightmare.

Sailed (badly) at school for a couple of summers, and crewed for a mate on one of the school Laser 2s on hols down at Rock during my teens.

Always loved a particular Fireball that would turn up for Camel week every year - beautifully restored with wooden deck.

Wife grew up there and her dad instructed occasionally at Rock Sailing School (wife taught waterskiing at Camel Ski School too). You may have been taught by my FIL!

I know the boat Risky Business, but think that you were in SB1 when I last saw you, whilst we were in SB2 at Scottish Series. Not a great place to break-down up there, at least we were only coming from the Clyde so could have sailed home if needed...

Just found a picture of an Ultra 30 that I raced on full time (on telly don't you know!) way back in 1990/91........ they were a lot of fun but we broke them a lot as well!
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Always liked these... (original Dart 18)

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Lovely looking boats, simple, easy to sail - I'd still be tempted to pick up a second hand one....

Ultra 30 - ace

I think someone has made one into a powerboat somewhere - it was on Sailing Anarchy site.

For Grumm: Which shotgun is better? Purdey or Holland & Holland?

No contest - Holland & Holland 😉

No International 14, Cherub or Moth, foiling or not yet? Sailed down in Waymouth a couple of years ago, in lots of wind with a foiling moth darting about the harbour like a mad thing on speed.

Remember a picture somewhere of an Uffa Fox boat called the Fairy Fox I think, back in about 1965, with someone water skiing behind it. 23ft, planning dingy in 1965. We had a Jolly boat (1957 I think hull) for a while, and just before breaking it quite nastily overtook a Boss downwind. 😯

Timmo- YGM.

Here's a couple of pics of our Ultra taking part in the 1990 (I think) Round the Island race. We were about half way round when we broke the mast driving into the back of a wave. Real pity as we were about 30 mins ahead of the monohul record at the time (slow nowadays!).
We ended up with a helicopter over us trying to winch everybody off - we didn't go and got towed back to Cowes by the coastguard instead. The next weekend we had a new mast and sailed from Cowes to Brighton to take part in the first televised event 🙂
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great thread.

must have bumped into some of you guys in the cornerhouse at scottish.

owenfackrell - how big is your refurb project? i recently bought a miracle but have only had it out a couple of times. still trying to figure out if something is missing for rigging the outhaul, dont suppose you have any pics?

bumped into

or picking me up off the ground outside the Victoria Hotel

yep vic sadly closed at the moment as of my last trip to tarbert.

Here's a few pictures of the boats I sailed on.

Babbalass - '94 Commodores Cup
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Christie Cancer Care 1st Scottish Series Overall, 1st Dun Laoghaire Regatta 2009 as part of the [url= http://www.checkmatesailing.com ]Checkmate Sailing Team[/url]
Yes, we did drink in the Cornerhouse too.
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Campaigend a 49er for 5 years on the UK circuit. (Not my picture, but nice anyway)
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Another Ultra 30, this time David McLean. Haven't got any digital images though. Sailed the '98 series, the first with trapezes.

Loads more but can't find images.

Ha, hello Jeremy...... thought you mght surface 😉

How are you matey? Was Babbalass #1 all that time ago?? Jeepers 🙁

Ted

It was indeed may moons ago Ted. Hadn't realized that you'd sailed with Glyn. Thought you were with Stu, Lawrie and Russel. So this is where you lurk these days. Have you heard Nipper's sad news?

ultra 30's now your talkin!! Awesome boats!
eremeber DBS from the coverage!! Think they sort of lost the way a little when they went trapeeze though?? still awesome mind!!