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hi.
Yesterday i dropped my son's laptop on the floor whilst i was cleaning his room. I haven't told him because now the screen isn't working properly and i think i may have broken it. But it did work for a few hours initially after it was dropped, so it might not be related.
when he switches it on, the start up stuff comes up but when its time to log on, the screen is just black and stays black. it doesn't change no matter what you press or anything.
Does anybody know what could be wrong, or where is a good place to take it to be fixed, how much it would cost? I have no idea 🙁


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:18 pm
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Might well have been like that for a while and he hasn't told you.

What's the last thing you see onscreen before it goes black?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:19 pm
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when you switch it on sone white writing comes across the bottom of the screen, i dont know what it says. it would then normally go to the blue screen with his name on it and he types his password to log on, but it wont get that far now.
i know it wasnt broken before because he uses it everyday after school.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:22 pm
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If you shine a light on the screen or hold it up to a window can you see a faint image of what should be there?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:23 pm
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Is the start up stuff a little dim? Are you sure the screen is black and not just very very dim afterwards (take in a dark cupboard and shine a torch as the screen).

Could be the LCD backlighting inverter has gone. Just done this on my sons, £10 part, DIY fix.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:23 pm
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no there is nothing on the screen at all.
the rest of it is still working though because you can hear it, just cant see anything.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:26 pm
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What's the last thing you see onscreen before it goes black? Don't guess, check. Information has to flow this way before it can flow back to you.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:26 pm
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graphics card problem

the graphics are handled by the computers own processor until the operating system loads and enables the graphics card. you should be able to start the computer in safe mode (hold the f8 key whilst the computer starts up) which will not enable the graphics card i think. this may allow you to get files off it. dropping it could have broken a connection on the card or something similar

this is mostly speculation after a similar thing happened to me, i'm no expert


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:26 pm
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i just switched it on again and the writing only flashes up for a second or so, it says windows error recovery, then a list of stuff underneath, then it disappears.
i think i broke it 🙁


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:28 pm
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Can you plug it into an external monitor?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:29 pm
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dont have one, i only have a netbook


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:30 pm
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does your TV have a PC input?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:31 pm
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it says windows error recovery, then a list of stuff underneath,

You should be able to select "startup repair" at this point. Try that?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:32 pm
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my tv has a usb socket, is that the same thing?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:33 pm
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Hold on.

After the screen goes black, does it reboot, or are you switching it off and on again?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:34 pm
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Its likely to be the cable connecting the screen to the motherboard has come lose, can you confirm the brand of laptop as I maybe able to help.


 
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my tv has a usb socket, is that the same thing?

With respect,

How old's your son? Is he of "daddy, my computer is broken" age, or "for god's sake dad, leave it alone" years old?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:35 pm
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i have been switching it off, lots of times trying to get it to work, sometimes you dont get to see any writing, sometimes it is there.
it is a Compaq.


 
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How old's your son? Is he of "daddy, my computer is broken" age, or "for god's sake dad, leave it alone" years old?

I was thinking the very same.....!

No, it's OK, Dad, I'll look after this.... 😳 😳 😕 "


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:37 pm
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my son is 14, he knows more about computers than me. 😳


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:38 pm
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but i'm not his daddy, i'm his mummy, so humour me. 🙂


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:39 pm
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In that case he won't be at all embarrassed about what you find in his internet history! 😉


 
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That's your answer right there. At age 14, if my dad had tried to fix my computer I'd have had a Kevin The Teenager grade meltdown.

Where are you geographically?

but i'm not his daddy, i'm his mummy, so humour me

Whoops, mia culpa. 😳


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:41 pm
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thats his tough luck, if he wants it fixing then i may well have a good old snoop whilst i'm at it.


 
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if you want to send it to me (I am in Stafford Nr Cannock Chase) I will take a look.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:42 pm
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if he wants it fixing then i may well have a good old snoop whilst i'm at it.

Nothing Good Will Come Of This.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:42 pm
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i'm in South Notts


 
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Somewhere, in South Nottinghamshire, a 14 year old boy is quietly sobbing in to his hands muttering to himself. It sounds like, "Oh, no, she's going to find it....oh no, she's going to find it...."

😉

Life was so much simpler when all we had was hard copy gentertainment!


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:46 pm
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i know a PC repair chappy near Ratcliffe. He's a sarcastic git with a lack of social skills, these are the kind of people that you need to fix PCs.

[EDIT] or ride mtbs for that matter


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:46 pm
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if you want to send it to me (I am in Stafford Nr Cannock Chase) I will take a look.

you're not far from me then. 🙂


 
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If I had a 14-year old son and I found a huge stash of filth on his laptop, he'd be in big trouble and I'd be bitterly disappointed. "Son, have I taught you [i]nothing[/i] about encryption?"


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:52 pm
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ha ha , but my son is a quiet boy. i'm sure there won't be rude things on there.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:54 pm
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ha ha , but my son is a quiet boy. i'm sure there won't be rude things on there.

Woooo Hooooo!


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:56 pm
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Again, with all due respect, he's fourteen. The only way there won't be anything you'd disapprove of on there is if he's found somewhere else to hide it.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:56 pm
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no, he'd have to be a fool to save it to his hard drive


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:57 pm
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maybe, thats probably why he spends all his time in his room then. 😕


 
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ha ha , but my son is a quiet boy. i'm sure there won't be rude things on there.

Sweet. Naive, but sweet ( unless there is something seriously wrong with him ).


 
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maybe, thats probably why he spends all his time in his room [s]furiously masturbating[/s] then


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:00 pm
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well , i dont know what age boys start with all that 😳


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:01 pm
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But anyway. I was going to offer to take a look at it for you, but it sounds like you've got a more local offer.

I'd suggest that your first action is to tell your lad. For all you know, he's rigged it so that it appears to be broken should his mother feel a sudden need to go checking on him. 's what I would have done.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:04 pm
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He should be a veteran by now.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:05 pm
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I was going to offer to take a look at it for you

THE LAPTOP!


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:05 pm
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I was going to offer to take a look at it for you

THE LAPTOP!

The benefits of IT support - you don't have to go and search the internet for filthiness, just make a "backup" copy of other people's.

🙂


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:07 pm
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he was nearly in tears last night when he told me it's broken. i thought he was just upset about his laptop.
i feel enlightened now 😯


 
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Ah, ok, so he is aware at least.

Make sure you tell him that you've specifically asked the repairman to search the hard disk for any important data he might have saved on there, and watch his face closely.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:10 pm
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(Poor sod, broken laptop *and* busted by his mother, I almost feel sorry for him. Still, it's never to early to learn about offsite backups.)


 
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Oh.. aside from the silliness, have you checked the obvious external projector setting?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:13 pm
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have you checked the obvious external projector setting?

how ?


 
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Make sure you tell him that you've specifically asked the repairman to search the hard disk for any important data he might have saved on there, and watch his face closely.

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Posted : 28/06/2011 1:17 pm
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external projector setting?

Fn-F4 usually. It's not likely if you can see the power on screens but not the Windows splash (loading) screen. Ditto most of the other suggestions, which is why I was trying to clarify exactly what happens.

Cranberry > Naturally. (-:


 
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sometimes Fn+F8.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:25 pm
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sometimes Fn+F8.

I should've known that, given that that's what it is on this laptop. 😳


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:27 pm
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On mine it's Fn+F7


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:28 pm
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i've never come across a laptop that doesn't default back to LCD only on reboot so i doubt Fn+F? will do owt


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:34 pm
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ok. i took it out into the garden so i could look at the screen better. i pressed buttons and also gave it a wipe as it was pretty grimy.
and yes i can see the windows screen with his name on it, just, it is very very dark, but it is there.
i couldn't see it before, when you guys first suggested it because i was indoors. and i didnt do the torch thing either.
but it i can defintaley see it now 😀


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:34 pm
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it's still not right though.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:39 pm
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It's the inverter then, as someone else suggested earlier. Given the history it might just be a loose cable, though they can be a right bugger to get at.


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:41 pm
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(also,

it was pretty grimy.

... that's not grime.)


 
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eeewww, i just wiped that off with my tissue 😐


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:46 pm
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eeewww, i just wiped that off with my tissue

*tries very hard to ignore an open goal*


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 1:47 pm
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t's the inverter then, as someone else suggested earlier. Given the history it might just be a loose cable, though they can be a right bugger to get at.

thanks, you've saved me a lot of hassle. i would probably have just gone and bought a new laptop.
if you were me, what would you do now, how would you get it mended?


 
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i've never come across a laptop

i pressed buttons and also gave it a wipe as it was pretty grimy.

tum-ti-tum


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 2:43 pm
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Woohoo, I was right! Yeeha!

Changing an inverter is a fairly simple job as far as laptop fixings go, but if you're not confident taking it apart then don't even try because they are fairly intricate inside.

Should be a fairly low cost fix for a shop though.


 
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Don't forget to tell your son that this latest version of Windows is designed to shut you out if it detects excessive masturbation


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 2:48 pm
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Don't forget to tell your son that this latest version of Windows is designed to shut you out if it detects excessive masturbation

I can sell you an earlier copy if that helps you out?


 
Posted : 28/06/2011 3:40 pm