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I think what I resent cougar is the implication from the interviewer was that despite all her success and creativity, was she worried about not being able to actract a man and the example was, look at Debbie Harry.

I need to see the interview, I think.

I don't think you can hold the interviewer responsible for quoting Debbie Harry, if that's indeed what he did. "This is what another role model said, would you agree?" isn't particularly outrageous.

If on the other hand, the question was closer to "why don't you tone down your act a bit so that you don't end up a spinster pensioner like Debbie Harry" then that's a whole other letter to the Daily Mail.

It's as if all of her life was just about that sole thing. It's a question that wouldn't be asked of a bloke.

WRT the first point here, again, I've not seen the interview so I don't know. If that was all they asked then yeah, I can see why that would be annoying. I'd strongly disagree with your second point though; no-one ever asks blokes whether their persona / fame affects their love life? Really?


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:37 pm
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That's a shame cos I was thinking of asking her out this weekend actually

Sexist.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:38 pm
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How can just thinking about asking your non-existant sister out on a date possibly be 'sexist'? 😕

It might be racist though. I'm not sure.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:40 pm
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It could also be conspiracy to commit a sexual act, could do with Ken Clarke clarifying the legal position on that.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:43 pm
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Phil that's like saying "don't look behind you but..."

MY EYES!!


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:43 pm
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You're regionalist as well as racist Fred. You're building up quite a count of 'ists' and isms' actually. I'm very impressed


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:43 pm
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The meat dress was hardly a first though
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For those who missed it, the dailymash.
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/men-still-trying-to-fancy-lady-gaga-201003182573/ ]Men still trying to fancy Lady Gaga.[/url]


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:47 pm
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Like this line...

"Plus she's got that Peaches Geldof thing where her face looks like it's been painted onto a deflating balloon."


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:50 pm
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I think comparing her to Sloth from The Goonies is a tad harsh (google images)


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:50 pm
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Thanks Binners! 😀

I try my best...


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:50 pm
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Actually, your remarks above could be construed as 'sisterist'

There's another addition 😀


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 3:52 pm
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Personally, I blame binners.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 4:33 pm
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Binnersist.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 4:34 pm
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Binnersist

No shame in it. I am just saying what you're all thinking!


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 4:35 pm
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By way of interest (as I am not overly familiar with Lady Gaga's music) what songs of hers sound like Madonnas?

Fortunately I am not too familiar either but noted that my wife has exclaimed "what a rip off" on several occasions in the past when listening to the radio, at which point i have listened a bit more intently and noticed a very strong similairity on a couple of different songs.

Born this way is the biggest rip off, but some earlier ones are very similair.

Madonna was not the subject of loads of marketing to start with - there was a very long wait between Holiday coming out and it being a hit anywhere.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 4:35 pm
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i blame jamie

ijamieblamer

*blames jamie*


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 4:36 pm
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Posted : 19/05/2011 4:37 pm
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It was him!

*points at Jamie*


 
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Turner - the singles/albums market and the associated marketing - no interweb, no ready access to multiple music channels - was infinitely different back in the early 80s so difficult to compare the two. It was nearly 30 years ago 😯

Holiday was the third single off the album BTW.


 
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Holiday was the third single off the album BTW.

but the first 'hit'...


 
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Agreed Turner it was the first single to chart - but I was simply trying to make the point that there was an entirely different approach to marketing an artist 30 years ago so impossible to compare the two artists in that way.

Back then they still (generally) used the technique of releasing singles every few months to generate interest in a new artist whereas now they often market the 'brand' first, then start to release singles.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 5:28 pm
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So have we got any advice for Lady Gaga so that she can stop wasting her time singing and fannying about and get on with looking after a house and making babies? 😛


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 7:22 pm
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[url] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13451042 [/url]

The interview in it's entirety. The Debbie Harry discussion of which led to the OP's outrage begins at 2.15 for those interested but can't be bothered with the prior dross.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 7:24 pm
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I am pretty sure that those questions were not agreed with her publicist/media guru beforehand, and that her publicist/media guru was not standing just out of camera shot with the answers that match her image to these surprising questions written on big cards as her eye movements might suggest.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 8:01 pm
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She's shit and you know she is. Ugly young girls buy music, I'm not sure anyone else does now

Surely you mean “Ugly young girls buy [b]her[/b] music”. If you're implying that only ugly young girls buy [i]any[/i] music, then you're quite clearly a total halfwit. I'm 56 this year, and recent acquisitions include Dark Star's unreleased second album 'Zurich', and new albums by Cerys Matthews, Emmylou Harris, The Dears, Kate Bush, The Wailin' Jennies, Kata Gao, Foo Fighters, Robert Plant and Wye Oak, and most of my friends, male and female, of all sorts of ages continue to buy lots of music of a huge variety.
Going back to Lady GaGa, and the implication by several of our sight impaired community that she's ugly, which isn't true, (anyone seen Tracy Emin lately?), and that alone means she's going to enter old age lonely and single, I would have thought that there are plenty of men who could get past the looks issue and concentrate on the fact she's got a pretty good body, oh, and she's earned $60million in the last year. After all, Bernie Ecclestone had little problem hitching up with a beautiful woman who's significantly younger and taller, and that could [i]never[/i] have had anything to do with the fact he's worth billions, could it?


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 8:30 pm
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She can have all the money in the world I still wouldn't


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 8:37 pm
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What's a total halfwit, am I therefore a fullwit?

Yep...That bored.


 
Posted : 19/05/2011 8:39 pm
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To those saying Lady GaGa's ugly, well I don't fancy yours much:

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Meanwhile I'd be perfectly to show up on a blind date and meet this lass:

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Posted : 19/05/2011 8:49 pm
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[url= http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=10&p=10343&title=listomania_10_reasons_why_everyone_is_wr_1&more=1&c=1 ]LINK - <contains some language not safe for work but no pictures.... which is surprising as its all about gaga[/url]

made me chuckle


 
Posted : 20/05/2011 1:24 pm
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Why is it so in vogue to despise Lady Gaga, I don't understand it! OK, she's as madder than Mad Jack McMad, the winner of this year's Madman competition, but so what? Since when have most pop stars in the limelight not been so? OK, perhaps she pushes it a little bit, but she's only like a female version of Elton John in terms of her style (and look where that got him!).

The biggest crime as far as Gaga is concerned is that she wastes all her talent writing and performing relatively mundane music, or has done the last year or so anyway. She's got an incredible voice, it may not be to everyone's taste, but trust me there aren't many that can sing like her, just for some reason half the time she also chooses to sound bad/half cut/wasted as if to prove a point, but when she wants to pull it out the bag (Radio 1 live lounge for instance) she can sound incredible.

A Marketing exercise? Probably, but then on the flipside she writes all her own material, and performs it all herself, not just stands there with a microphone and sings when told to. And since when has the pop music industry been a successful ground for the shrinking violet? Gaga probably couldn't care if you love her, or hate her, at the end of the day she's controversial and that's what causes success in Pop Music. Now if she'd just stop writing crap music aimed at teenage girls again, and write something a bit more edgy, then maybe she will end up as the Madonna for this generation... Perhaps!


 
Posted : 20/05/2011 1:52 pm
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She can have all the money in the world I still wouldn't

Is it just me (and elf by the looks of things) that looks past the mad exterior? Maybe it's cos I'm a bit of a music geek, but she does it for me in a weird way... Meat dresses aside though!


 
Posted : 20/05/2011 1:56 pm
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I'd have the meat dress.....and that babe in CountZero's post above...hubbahubba


 
Posted : 20/05/2011 2:04 pm
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mboy +1

her chosen method of expression could very easily cause me to weep mournfully at the wasted talent and passion if I was so inclined..


 
Posted : 20/05/2011 2:17 pm
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Mad Jack McMad, the winner of this year's Madman competition

Copyright Blackadder (series 2 I think) 😀


 
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then maybe she will end up as the Madonna for this generation...

She has time on her side - Madonna very much grew into her music and developed it to reflect her audience over the years. Another very clever woman.

Ask a 35+ yr old what they thought of Madonna back in 1982 and they would have been saying the same about her as some of the people on here are saying about Radio Gaga.


 
Posted : 20/05/2011 2:20 pm
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mboy +1

her chosen method of expression could very easily cause me to weep mournfully at the wasted talent and passion if I was so inclined..

Haha, my thoughts entirely... The good news is she'll grow up one day, then we'll see what's to come!

Copyright Blackadder (series 2 I think)

Series 3, get it right! 😉


 
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