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Why isn’t this a trial? Statue of Limitations?
Because the way they done it instead they got the same level of exposure, maybe even more, but without the need for all the pesky evidence stuff.
Because the way they done it instead they got the same level of exposure, maybe even more, but without the need for all the pesky evidence stuff.
A sworn testimony under oath IS evidence
(which is why they're so keen to keep Mark Judge away)
A sworn testimony under oath IS evidence
Cool. But why hasn't this gone to trial?
Good question. I believe at a federal level, it needs to start with an FBI investigation - then if they find that it should go to a trial, they'd move it on. But there is considerable government opposition to an FBI investigation.
To do it at a state level, well, the US doesn't have an equivalent of the CPS. Who can shed more light, because IA fairly clearly NAL?!
You know he'll get in though.
Even this isn't enough to stop the pussy-grabber-in-chief train.
Then he'll help repeal Roe vs Wade.
Worth losing the midterms for, that's more of a temporary setback.
Watching the hearing, looks like yesterday was just a hiccup which brought everything forward - he'll win the vote is my guess.
it can't be good for a democracy to have such a politicized judiciary.
Watching the hearing, looks like yesterday was just a hiccup which brought everything forward – he’ll win the vote is my guess.
almost certainly 😐
An analysis I read said the GOP were willing to look bad, even to the point of losing the midterms to pissed off women voters to get him in. He's in for ~40 years. The might lose midterms anyway and the democrat party could block him getting in.
Sad.
So Senator Frank has decided to vote against his better judgement and support the sex criminal. I wonder what made him change his mind?
He’s in for ~40 years.
And that is the dream of the right wing. Owning the courts is the most important thing hence why they will put up with Trump amongst other things.
It is entertaining, although depressing, seeing the absolute lack of any ethics or genuine morality amongst the "Christian" right when it comes to chasing an agenda. Who cares if the person they are voting for in theory personally fails all their claimed principles so long as he chooses the right judges.
Can the FBI produce anything meaningful in just a week?
Well if the FBI thing goes ahead (I don't think anyone knows what's happening given the abrupt halt to proceedings), it's not like there is much to look at is there?
But why hasn’t this gone to trial?
The victim doesn't want it to?
it’s not like there is much to look at is there?
How do you know?
Can the FBI produce anything meaningful in just a week?
I would doubt it. Sadly it does seem like the he said, she said (although now multiple "shes") scenario and given how long ago it is obvious forensics etc is sod all use. Unless witnesses join in and given most of them would be incriminating themselves that doesn't seem likely seems a dead end. Depends on whether multiple accusations are given any weight and since they will be accused of partisanship I think the FBI given the attacks on them from the trump nutcases will err even more on the side of caution and go "no idea",
It was curious how uncomfortable Flake appeared with it. Seems like he was pretty convinced but couldnt quite go against the republican line.
But why hasn’t this gone to trial?
The victim doesn’t want it to?
Alleged victim Al. Alleged.
How do you know?
Because the proposal is to limit it to only those allegations that are on the table just now, one was examined yesterday (the most credible), the other 3 will go no where, one of which was a drunken flash at a party, one was a mother saying her daughter witnessed him pushing a woman he was dating, the other alleges that he frequently drugged and took part in gang raping female students. Given the FBI already spent 6 weeks looking into him and his background and never uncovered any of this, it's pretty unlikely given the lack of any collaboration anything new will come to light.
It was curious how uncomfortable Flake appeared with it. Seems like he was pretty convinced but couldnt quite go against the republican line.
He did a complete 180 over the course of the day, I think more likely he was looking at the mood of the electorate and that is what convinced him to put the deal on the table, to protect his own skin. I don't think any of them on either side actually give a shit about the women or getting to the truth, it's just pure politics to them.
Why is it so often the case that the more ‘upstanding’ and ‘god-fearing’ someone says they are, the bigger the **** they actually are?
I mean, loads of the most racist, petty, insular afrikaners proclaim themselves the most pious Christians whilst acting in the most un-Christian way. It’s almost as though self-righteous conservatives are utterly hypocritical. Is confused.
It's because they are conservative, and if you identify yourself as conservative you'll generally do things associated with it. So old fashioned stuff, which includes traditional religion.
Nothing that happens in the US politics surprises me. It just seems to get more ****ed up by the day.
Why is it so often the case that the more ‘upstanding’ and ‘god-fearing’ someone says they are, the bigger the **** they actually are?
I would guess two things.
Either someone is a real arsehole and realises so long as they pretend to believe the poor saps will believe them or its a case of a guilty conscience which kicks in after the fact and they buy into the so long as you repent you are okay line.
Well obviously I was being a bit sarcastic.
However, there seems to be a total lack of ‘traditional’ or what I would call ‘traditional’ conservatism out there. By this, I mean the likes of Beveridge or Keynes. Neither were what we now call conservatives, nor were they at the time, but they both espoused non-flashy self reliance whilst be amenable to helping people truly in need to get on their feet.
This latest crop are an insult to their own so-called values. Hypocritical, cynical, piss-taking bastards.
He’s in
Well the Democrats are threatening a full investigation into him if they get enough seats in November, could still get messy
Well the pushback against the Kavanagh appointment has actually fired up the rep base, but has it done even more to push the democrat voters out? midterms going to be more polarised than ever.
The big unknown is what other skeletons are going to come out of kavanaghs closet
The big unknown is what other skeletons are going to come out of kavanaghs closet
It's OK he can't remember but it's not because he blacked out drunk though
also worth noting that kavanagh fightback has energised Republicans who support him more than before the allegations broke, but its turned dems & improtantly swing voters more against trumps pick
The whole thing is distasteful. I know supreme court judges go on party lines, but I feel Kavanaugh is now there with a feeling he owes his President BIG time. How can he even hope to put a facade of even handed neutrality?? And he will preside over judgements affecting everyday peoples lives for the rest of his life. I cant believe what passes as American democracy.
I thought Trumps comments at a recent rally were utterly disgusting and displayed the utter lack of tact I would expect of him. A complete disgrace of what I loosely refer to as a human being.
It’s OK he can’t remember but it’s not because he blacked out drunk though
I find this a rather odd claim. He must be the only student ever not to have blacked out from drinking. I mean what is further education for if not to explore your limits?
We all drank to excess at uni, Im not sure that my parties were as wild as his, Im guessing mine were more weed than booze & certainly less rapey
These allegations aside hes perjured himself several times in his own confirmation!! saying initially he never drank until blacking out, that boofing meant farting, not anal sex & devils triangle was a drinking game not a 3some
Whats even worse is that with the FBI not interviewing Ford or Kavanagh (the latter allegedly because the whitehouse blocked it) https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/the-real-reason-the-white-house-told-the-fbi-not-to-interview-christine-blasey-ford/ is going to be a sore point that is going to fester for a long time.
epic thread here
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1047483971259576321
Satire and News getting confused again
How much is a Mannlicher Carcano these days and where is the nearest book depository?
It's all just terribly sad IMO. Internal USA politics and not really my business but putting such an obvious drunkard frat-boy lying sex-abuser on the supreme court is disgusting.
And yeah, of course he did it. More than once.
I wonder if his views on abortion (now basically illegal in over 20 states) would have been different if any of the women he or his friends allegedly assualted became pregnant as a result?
Let’s be clear - America voted democratically against #metoo . It is the expressed will of the American people that women be abused as and when desired by rich white men.
"I wonder if his views on abortion (now basically illegal in over 20 states) would have been different if any of the women he or his friends allegedly assualted became pregnant as a result?"
I doubt it. When you're white and filthy rich you can say what you like and do what you like without the two being mutually exclusive.