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Ok, i have an interview for a local engineering firm tomorrow.
The job is (trainee) CNC Operator which is broadly similar to waht i was doing in my last job, although the systems/machines will be very different.
Not much about the Co on the 'net but i do know about them from local sources and from doing sub-contract work for them with my previous employer.
How to swing the job given it's nearly 20yrs since my last job interview?
How to swing the job given it's nearly 20yrs since my last job interview?
Something like this?
good luck, no - seriously good luck 🙂
It's (trainee) because i'll need to get up to speed on their systems & machines, it's milling rather than routing which was what i was doing before.
Nervous now!
Assuming you have answers to all the obvious questions (why us, etc.), then I would:
1. make sure you never talk for lomger than the time it takes for a match to burn.
2. Be open and honest.
3. Have a decent answer to quarions about your strengths and your weaknesses.
4. Come across as enthusiatistic and willing to learn.
And the very best of British. 😀
Ok, what questions am i likely to be asked?
What qualities do you think you you can bring to this role?
What are your weaknesses?
Crap like that.
Have you seen the pepsi max advert.....The above are spot on, also guff about being able to work as part of a team, good organisational skills.
Might not be as bad as you think. The interview for my dad's pattern making factory basically consisted of figuring out how to open the door while the secretaries watched and giggled from behind the blind.
Qualities - 23yrs experience in CNC maching, with the ability to turn around orders in a short order window. Have de-facto run a small dept. for several years reporting to the Works Manager.
Weaknesses - intolerance for delays, i expect people to deliver when they promise to do so.
As an employer of people in the engineering industry I look for the following:
Try to relax and be yourself. Ask questions that let them know you are interested in the Job, product and their company. Being nervous is fine, if they are half decent they will allow for this. If you are already skilled in one area that is related that is a positive and you should let them see it as that. If you have years of experiance then this is a massive advantage and lots of companies are desperate for this alone.
All the very best to you.
A well organised (so you can find your example/evidence without faffing) portfolio goes down well if you can reference skills and experience against photos, drawings etc. Good to keep records of previous training/quals in too. Good Luck.
Forgot two things. Listen and don't bullsh1t.
Be yourself!
Good luck!
Wear latex.
MT - can you give examples please? I'm really nervous about this!
Wear latex.
No advice here. Only can wish you luck.
Let us know the outcome.
Don't really have a portfolio as such, started the job aged 19 & finished aged 42!
No actual quals, just lots of time & experience working in a small sub-contract machine shop.
Don't ask the interviewer if you can shag his wife. I didn't, I got the job, then shagged his wife anyway. Hope he doesn't read ST forums.
Ask the first question......if you cant, ask the second one. Make it as conversational as possible that way. Nothing worse than sitting there waiting on question after question. Do that and it will fly by, probably put the interviewer at ease too.
Smile, be nice. People hire people they want to work with, that they like.
Lord Felcham the III, could you just step in to my office for a moment.....
Let me just put my trousers back on boss, by the way, it's egg 'n' chips tonight...
Weaknesses - intolerance for delays, i expect people to deliver when they promise to do so.
Don't say anything like that.
Try something like:-
"My main weakness is perceived by many to be a strength, in that I try and always deliver when I promise, and (perhaps niavely)I expect others to do the same."
Turn your perceived weakness into a strength that the company would like to see.
I'd just reply "cake" if anyone asked me what my weaknesses were in a job interview. Can't believe they'd ask that sort of shite question for an engineering type job but I guess you never know.
"My main weakness is perceived by many to be a strength, in that I try and always deliver when I promise, and (perhaps niavely)I expect others to do the same."
I'd probably be sick if someone came out with that at an interview
Good point Jenga - can always be worded better!
I know i have the skills, just not sure they will be transferable to the new job. Nervous as **** now....
I'd probably be sick if someone came out with that at an interview
I used something very similar in my last job interview, and it went down so well that I got the job.
and it went down so well that I got the job.
Well at least I know it's not at our place 😀
Weaknesses - intolerance for delays, i expect people to deliver when they promise to do so.
Guage this language carefully. A more rounded answer might be:
I set high standards for myself and I like to deliver what I say I am going to and when I say I am going to. I tend to assume that others will also do this, and so sometimes can find myself frustrated if, for whatever reason, this does not happen. However, I appreciate that in making my own commitments to deliver, I need to ensure that i take into account any variation in others' ability to do their bit and, at the same time, ensure that I actively monitor my and others' delivery. This means I am able to manage expectations all round.
See, looks like a load of bullsh*t, but actually says: Listen, I could be impatient, but I've used it to everyone's advantage to make sure we all know what's going on.
Don't lie (that's what your CV is for).
Be yourself (they'll find you out sooner or later).
The weaknesses question really does sort the men from the bull sh$tters, and their is a distinct whif to some of the suggestions so far.
We all have weaknesses, the trick is to show that you have acknowledged a real one and done something about it.
e.g. "I used to struggle and not enjoy writing reports. Following discussion with my line manager, I went on a series of courses / did a night class to help me improve. Its no longer a problem and a part of the job I actually quite enjoy now"
Good luck.
Cant offer any advise mate, as I have been in the same job for 18 years. But, wish you the best of luck for it.
I would have thought the the best advise as above is just be yourself. Most people can smell bullshit a mile off.
"Qualities - 23yrs experience in CNC maching, with the ability to turn around orders in a short order window. Have de-facto run a small dept. for several years reporting to the Works Manager.
Weaknesses - intolerance for delays, i expect people to deliver when they promise to do so"
Muddy, all of the above would be seen at our company as a strength. Being able to get product out when the customers need it is good. Working unsupervised and reporting into your line manager all good stuff.
Being intolerant of delays is not a weakness (as long as you don't murder those responsible), it shows that you are trying to get things done. Expecting people to do what they say is also a good as long as you are flexible enough to understand that things some times go wrong.
What is most important to successful companies is that they give good service, quality product, do things when they say they will and have employees who believe that to be the case (can be difficult this). I always grab anyone who has this attitude as they can learn the works skill as they go along but having a helpful attitude to work mates and customer that priceless!
Really hope that does not come across trite(?). Again try and relax and be yourself and tell them what you can do. You sound like you have the skills so go for it.
They realise you have not been to interview for nearly 20 years, nervousness is to be expected. It also shows loyalty.
You have 20 years experience of working in a machine shop delivering quality components on time and working with the higher levels of management. Your knowledge of the sub contract work should help, you understand the required turn around times and quality levels they are looking for and the customers they have.
Knowing what you are talking about will show through. Don't worry and good luck!
Weaknesses - intolerance for delays,
Not wanting to flog this too hard, but do people actually believe that this is a credible answer?
Its about one step from the "I'm a perfectionist and struggle when other people aren't as good as me" twaddle.
🙄
Must admit, the whole 'tell me your weaknesses' thing is something i struggle with. I am impatient, and get annoyed easily when things are held up but this isn't really what an employer wants to hear is it?
No advice...but I really do wish you loads of luck tomorrow md! 8)
I am impatient, and get annoyed easily when things are held up
Nothing at all wrong with stating that as long as you qualify it with by stating that you understand that delays can happen and you have learned to deal with it. That then tees up a question about making sure that you have good communication channels with the other parts of the business that are causing and also suffering from the delays.
Good luck.
Ok, what questions am i likely to be asked?
They will probably ask why you've been out of work for a while. I know you were looking at cycle training for a long time trying to make it viable but couldn't. Explaining your efforts on that score might work well.
I'm sure you'll be fine with the new equipment etc, I've had people come into my department and work with unfamiliar test gear very quickly. It's just the unfamiliarity that can be daunting, but be confident that you can do it.
Good Luck!
The weaknesses question really does sort the men from the bull sh$tters, and their is a distinct whif to some of the suggestions so far.
What you trying to say...? 😀
I am impatient, and get annoyed easily when things are held up but this isn't really what an employer wants to hear is it?
Don't get too bothered about this - just be mindful of using the word "intolerant", as that makes you sound like you're not a team player. Tell them the truth - you are impartient - but tell them what you have done to work this to your (and everyone else's) advantage.
Tell them the truth - you are impartient - but tell them what you have done to work this to your (and everyone else's) advantage.
Exactly! If only I could have put it so simply 🙂
I.e - i'm impatient but have tried to work this to everyone's advantage by finding out exactly what the problem is and whether i can speed up/help move the delay along, especially in regards to other depts?
[i]I.e - i'm impatient but have tried to work this to everyone's advantage by finding out exactly what the problem is and whether i can speed up/help move the delay along, especially in regards to other depts? [/i]
Excellent!
My 'back to basics' interview tip is that if you've been offered an interview then the company think you are 'up for the job' and the interview is primarily a chance for them to assess your character and how you would fit in with their current workforce/management.
The HR BS questions may well come up, but they are often just an opportunity to see how you react, give simple answers that you feel happy with, and don't be afraid of adopting a conversational tone, if there's no immediate response to an answer ask if they want more detail
Good luck.....
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Captainflash; If it makes you feel better, while he was round at yours, I was "visiting" the Baronial pile.
1. Smile make lots of eye contact, firm handshakes
2. Explain why you can help them more than the other candidates
3. Value your contribution eg " at my last company I did yadda yadda which earnt the company x amount in sales and profit"
Next time read "How to get your dream job" by Jeffrey Fox, it works!!!!
firm handshake, smart suit, eye contact, ask lots of questions
loads of tips here
[url] http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/interviews/ivquest.htm [/url]
What a strange interview.
Manager took me around the plant, explaining every dept. and the production systems etc.
Then took me to the office to tell me what the hourly rate/shift patterns/holidays etc. were.
Didn't actually ask me anything, most strange...
But have you got the job????
Don't know yet - was told if picked i would be up for a more formal 2nd interview & a medical.
Yep, a bit odd then. Fingers crossed.
1. Turn up, a few minutes early, if you're over 5 early then wait offsite.
2. Accept a drink, but only water - have had interviewees who don't then you watch as their mouth gets dryer and dryer. Very amusing....
3. Be honest. It's pretty obvious when someone isn't.
4. Give examples where they ask about experience.
5. In those examples, say I and me, not we and us. We sounds like someone else did it (we'll hire them thanks!).
6. Don't be afraid to decide you don't want the job, it may have been mis-represented by the agent etc. Quite common.
7. Comedy is great, but only if initiated by interviewer, and then only at Gran level.
8. If you're super nervous, take a prop, notepad or similar. You can hide behind it as they do the greet before you get into it. Seriously, having something in your hands will help...
9. Enjoy it - you could be spending more time with these folk than with the GF/Wife/Mag so you need to know you can get on with them.
10. If it goes well, don't be shy about asking to see more of the offices etc. Enthusiasm is great to see.
11. On asking one manager why I was hired instead of a technical person, they pointed out that technical skills can be trained, attitude can't - so have a good attitude and be positive, and even if your skills aren't complete they'll think favorably of you.
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Good luck!
Smile and lean forward. Smile a lot. Nod a lot. Positive, positive, positive. Keep your hands where the interviewer can see them. Hidden hands suggest the interviewee has something to hide.
1. Turn up, a few minutes early, if you're over 5 early then wait offsite.2. Accept a drink, but only water - have had interviewees who don't then you watch as their mouth gets dryer and dryer. Very amusing....
3. Be honest. It's pretty obvious when someone isn't.
4. Give examples where they ask about experience.
5. In those examples, say I and me, not we and us. We sounds like someone else did it (we'll hire them thanks!).
6. Don't be afraid to decide you don't want the job, it may have been mis-represented by the agent etc. Quite common.
7. Comedy is great, but only if initiated by interviewer, and then only at Gran level.
8. If you're super nervous, take a prop, notepad or similar. You can hide behind it as they do the greet before you get into it. Seriously, having something in your hands will help...
9. Enjoy it - you could be spending more time with these folk than with the GF/Wife/Mag so you need to know you can get on with them.
10. If it goes well, don't be shy about asking to see more of the offices etc. Enthusiasm is great to see.
11. On asking one manager why I was hired instead of a technical person, they pointed out that technical skills can be trained, attitude can't - so have a good attitude and be positive, and even if your skills aren't complete they'll think favorably of you.
12. Don't go into the interview needing a turd... SERIOUSLY! I turned up for my last interview with the pangs just starting, but I only got there with 2 minutes to spare so had no time... 2 hours later and my gut was about to explode! Not good... I've still been invited back for a 2nd interview mind! 😕
Got myself another interview this coming Tuesday too... Little known firm, seems to be famous at squandering taxpayers money now that the public owns 70% of it... Figure seeing as I'm a shareholder these days I might as well get a return on my investment! 😉
What a strange interview.Manager took me around the plant, explaining every dept. and the production systems etc.
Then took me to the office to tell me what the hourly rate/shift patterns/holidays etc. were.Didn't actually ask me anything, most strange...
Sounds like an excellent interview tactic: he shows you around, nice informal setting to keep you at ease, it should be immediately clear from your conversation whether or not you know what you're talking about, and he gets to size you up - your attitude, personality, etc.
The only problem with the tactic is the amount of time it takes.