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[Closed] Job Hunting - Why is it so difficult?

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Currently looking for a new job as I was made redundant at the end of August and my temporary job I picked up during furlough isn't enough to pay the bills long-term. Trawling the usual jobsites and finding it so frustrating that the adverts are so hard to filter! Constantly coming up against:

* no salary listed
* location is nowhere near where I specified - type in eg Cardiff and the advert will say Cardiff area but the job is actually in England. the worst are the ones that say just UK!
* stating decent wages and full time but when you read it it's pro-rata and only 20 hours or so.
* specific to Wales this one - great job, good wages, obviously having difficulty filling it as it's been posted multiple times for the mast year or so. Click through the application process and right at the end you get the last question: Do you speak Welsh fluently? Tick the no box and it's instantly refused, wasting a solid half hour of my time!! NRW, that would be you.
* asking for an upload of your CV then the next 20+ questions asking info that is on the CV.
* minimum wage jobs (bar staff, cleaners etc) stating that only people with 2+ year's experience, multiple references or some odd qualification will be considered.

I know it's a crap time to be looking for work but why do employers make it so bloody hard? Anyone else struggling to find anything?


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 11:14 am
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I can't help I am afraid but I agree it is crap. Poorly list adverts, asking the same question multiple times on forms, missing core information such as wage a proper location. It's amazing that such a shabby industry as s the recruitment one exists.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 11:24 am
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Just lie about experience for minimum wage stuff, bars flip all the time and nobody would ever be able to prove otherwise.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 11:26 am
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I tried for one bar job and they asked for references at the start of the interview. I have got bar experience but it was 12 years ago, they just said it wasn't valid. Suppose they can be incredibly choosy with hundreds of experienced people ready to start immediately and need no training.

I wouldn't lie in an interview or on a CV anyway, not in my nature.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 12:13 pm
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I'm dreading having to go back to this after years of being self employed. I feel like the main problem is that you don't actually want the kind of crappy jobs you see advertised, and they know that just as well as you do.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 12:18 pm
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Try being old mate.
They just don't have any idea of how to deal with you when you apply. 🙂


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 12:22 pm
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asking for an upload of your CV then the next 20+ questions asking info that is on the CV.

This made me laugh, so bloody true.

I just advertised a Sunday role for 6 hours which I would normally get 2 or 3 applicants apply for, I had 44 on the first day! It’s a bit crazy out there at the moment. Good luck and keep persevering, something will come good.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 12:31 pm
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The information is often vague so you can't work out who the employer is and sidestep the recruitment agency.

I really ought to look for another job as I'm very bored where I am, but I just can't be arsed to deal with the shitshow that is job hunting.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 12:35 pm
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Lack of salary is the one the annoys me the most, it can be very difficult working out what level a role is at from the description. Even if they just stated from an arbitrary minimum it'd give you and idea. Location is also a pain, a lot of this is down to rubbish agencies not earning their money. Found the whole process depressing last year an very hard to motivate myself, worked out in the end though.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 12:36 pm
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a lot of this is down to rubbish agencies not earning their money

Can't help thinking a lot is down to even more rubbish agencies trying to steal the jobs making the not quite so bad ones hide the details.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 1:00 pm
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Lack of salary annoys me. When I was recruiting for a position at the start of the year I moaned at our HR people about not having the salary on job adverts. Even if it's just a range. This was prompted by me interviewing a guy, him looking good, then finding out he wanted 50% over what we were offering, as he didn't know what the salary was.

Until HR sorted it I did a phone pre-interview before hand where I told the candidates the salary expectations.

Edit: Good luck OP, I imagine it's a nightmare job searching ATM.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 3:01 pm
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This was prompted by me interviewing a guy, him looking good, then finding out he wanted 50% over what we were offering,

How on earth did it get so far as an interview without the salary / salary expectations being discussed????


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 3:05 pm
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@johndoh More quality pre-interview work from our HR department 😂


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 3:10 pm
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I really ought to look for another job as I’m very bored where I am, but I just can’t be arsed to deal with the shitshow that is job hunting.

I changed job recently and because of this shitshow my old job had to get to a critical point where I was close to just walking out. I also nearly gave up on the job I got due to the recruitment guy.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 3:18 pm
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Son #2 is going through this just now,a totally disheartening  experience ,not helped by the absolute cretins that fail to send back any acknowledgement of the applications. In an era of easy and instant communication,there is no excuse,I would set fire to their shoes .


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 3:30 pm
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I signed a contract for a new job the day lockdown started - job based in Dubai. Geting married next week so my partner can come too.

Been told every week that it was still on, not to worry, just waiting for restrictions to ease.

Just had the call to tell me I no longer have a job.

Been sitting on my arse waiting for 5 months. ****!


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 4:22 pm
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When did this part of HR start rebranding itself as "talent acquisition"??

The irony is that many of them are now also redundant and having to present themselves as talent


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 9:11 pm
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Bit like the recruitment industry, lots of recruiters looking for work on LinkedIn.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 9:18 pm
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Wife and son out of work. Son's doing pizza delivery a few nights a week, but he's got his car insurance to pay.

Nothing out there, and this is Manchester. Son's applied to Amazon, hermes etc just for work.


 
Posted : 21/09/2020 10:51 pm
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Ignore requests and apply for what you want. Co’s requirements are a wish list just like dating.

Imagine living in a dingy studio apt, being overweight, not that interesting with no job but expecting a smart down to earth supermodel that likes to go mountainbiking at the weekend.

That is what most of the co’s offering minimum wage positions are doing.

You won’t get a engineers job at Tesla without a degree but if you are confident you can do the job throw in your CV with a covering letter and play the game.


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 2:51 am
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We had a job going here. I know most is on line now, but we had a few CV’s brought in.
Mostly they were awful, things like ‘10yrs experience in a results driven blah blah blah.’
Just one cliche bit of corporate bullshit after another. Printed on shit paper, with a crap layout.
Two really stood out, one was a fine artist, hers was printed on nice paper, had a photo, and set as laid out really nicely. Only stuff about her, separate sheet for the boring stuff.
The other one that stood out was just written using simple normal language. The line I really liked was,
‘I worked as a barista at ... but had to leave as... , I loved that job’

I hate ‘customer focused’
Love ‘I like people’
Hate ‘results driven’
Like ‘I work hard’


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 11:56 am
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I hate ‘customer focused’
Love ‘I like people’
Hate ‘results driven’
Like ‘I work hard’

See, when I recruit I'd swap those all round.
"I work hard", well, I'd be more surprised if you didn't so that's not needed on your CV. Results driven in a way of working, I can dig into that and find out if you are or it's just Cv waffle.
"I like people", again, I'm more surprised if you don't. Customer focussed again is a way of working and something I can learn more about.


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 12:07 pm
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@gingerbllr

I signed a contract for a new job the day lockdown started – job based in Dubai. Geting married next week so my partner can come too.

Been told every week that it was still on, not to worry, just waiting for restrictions to ease.

Just had the call to tell me I no longer have a job.

Been sitting on my arse waiting for 5 months. ****!

At least you found out before you married her. You can cancel it now as there is no need to carry it through 🤣


 
Posted : 22/09/2020 2:00 pm