Was on a bus earlier today. Bus driver started reading his paper as he was sitting at the lights and only put it away at the next bus stop. What would you do in that situation?
He got very aggressive when I suggested that he probably shouldnt be reading his paper when he's driving.
Camera phone, police - then bus company if necessary... or would that be considered covert survaillance (sic), or some other such infringement of his human rights to read a paper whilst driving?
the same i'd do about someone sat at work on stw i guess...
Shrug my shoulders and think about how I should get round to passing my driving test sometime and finally stop using what is an unreliable, overpriced mess of a PT network.
film it. send it to bus company.
I drove round a one way system in brighton recently whilst the bus driver in the next lane was texting.
(2.45 in)
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Bus has CCTV. Bus company are going to check the footage and pursue it.
Email to LRT should sort it, doubt First would GAF though...
If it was a Stagecoach bus, they will take the matter seriously, report him, time date and bus route.
Or do like in my case when a bus almost ran me off the road when riding 'because I was holding him up' - don't even bother to respond to the letter personally addressed to the Chairman of the company.
Spoke to a friend about it (who co-incidentally owns a rival bus company and who gave me the contact details) and he says that the '**** everyone' mentality runs through most bus organisations so it *may* not always help if the people in charge of these companies don't really care anyway.
muckytee - Member
Shrug my shoulders and think about how I should get round to passing my driving test sometime and finally stop using what is an unreliable, overpriced mess of a PT network.
I find the buses round here to be very reasonably priced and efficient.
(Driver for 10 years before I realised I didn't actually need a car.)
You should have sent it recorded delivery, abnd followed up with a phone call, if it was that serious call the police in .
Don't be grassing drivers up! You'll make him angry!
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Then we'll all incur his wrath! [b]EEK!!![/b]
And he'll get 'Teh Brudders' after you, whoever that is.
Where is that, out of interest? oh and what is the main company.
Rubbish at my end round Braford/Leeds/Huddersfield, one bus an hour on my street, and most other services I use tend to have the same infrequency, coming on time is also great achievement.
Fares have been put up again aswell £2:80 to get into Leeds
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£2.80 to get to leeds, but how much is parking and the cost of a vehicle.
the cost of a vehicle
But you don't buy a car to make one £2.80 bus journey.
In a thread recently I exampled how (in my experience) bus/train journeys often cost more than the average running cost of an average car.
mmm, fair point add in road tax, insurance, fuel and vehicle maintenance. But the amount of time wasted and the fact you still need a car for plenty of other things...?
Had a company's van park outside today and block in another company's van, even though one van had the engine running and was about to reverse.
The guy in the second van couldn't hear the engine because he was listening to an MP3.
There are a lot of bad drivers about!
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Zombie shotgun! Don't leave home without it!
They'll probably do as much as they did when I emailed this picture to the bus company of a bus driving out of a "no entry" road. It drove forward, reversed onto the path and then drove across 2 lanes of traffic...
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(I didn't even get a reply BTW)
Inform the Police, driving without due care and attention!
What's the union going to do about this?
think youll find all buses have an individual id tag on back give this no to the bus company and they can tell who was driving, i would definitely do something about, driving without due care and attention at least
or would that be considered covert survaillance (sic), or some other such infringement of his human rights
The right to privacy doesn't cover this.
Covert surveillance is not a de facto breach of a person's rights.
Someone with a camera is not the State.
It would not be covert.
etc
So no, it couldn't be a breach of teh yoomin rites.
all buses have an individual id tag on back give this no to the bus company
Yep usually just a number like 37448 or 452 (depending on the company), this number will be on the ticket as well, as the driver number, time and route number.
Copy your complaint to the bus company to the relevant Traffic Commisioner.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/topics/tpm/traffic-commissioners/
What would you do in that situation?
I'd take his paper and shove where the sun dont shine.
Or suggest kindly:
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I'd go to the cops....£5 says LRT will not give satisfaction.
If the management can't be arsed to deal with rouge drivers for fear of union revoke then why not inform the union to see if they would step in to deal with these drivers? Otherwise, what's the point of union demanding higher salary and strikes while not even honest enough to deal with rouge drivers? Are they holding public to ransom?
Lothian have a decent record for dealing with idiot bus drivers. Unions will defend and represent their members of course - everyone is entitle to a defense - you get one in court after all.
What would you do in that situation?
It depends what newspaper he was reading.
It depends what newspaper he was reading.
The Sun. Has to be. Bus drivers are like white van men....
No mercy then.
Think it might have been the Daily Mail, could have been the Metro though.
Think it might have been the Daily Mail
[b]SHOP HIM[/b]
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Daily Mail
Heathen......
Do you mind, my paper of choice is the Independent, or 'I' if it's a short journey. 😀Bus drivers are like white van men....
TandemJeremy - MemberLothian have a decent record for dealing with idiot bus drivers. Unions will defend and represent their members of course - everyone is entitle to a defense - you get one in court after all.
If there is evidence to support that the drivers are at fault then I don't see any reasons to defend etc, just deal with it internally and swiftly according to company rules. Yes, they can have someone to witness the proceedings but that's all. What is there to argue when they are blatantly wrong.
If union cannot distinguish the wrong then there is no more hope ... we are all doomed.
So no defence then for people? prejudged as guilty before the hearing.
Chewkw thinks you are guilty thus you get no one to defend you.
Whats that called - a show trial is it? Or a kangaroo court?
chewkw is in the "kill paedos" camp so I'd not take his views on justice too seriously.
If the management can't be arsed to deal with [b]rouge[/b] drivers for fear of union revoke
wearing makeup isn't enough of a reason to get rid of a driver
wearing makeup isn't enough of a reason to get rid of a driver
Its political correctness gawn mad I telya
my paper of choice is the Independent
You're right, not all white van men are neanderthals!
My sincere apologies dear sir 😛
TandemJeremy - MemberSo no defence then for people? prejudged as guilty before the hearing.
Chewkw thinks you are guilty thus you get no one to defend you.
Whats that called - a show trial is it? Or a kangaroo court?
If the bloke is reading paper at the steering wheel or the picture of that bus going the wrong way ...
Errhhh ... hellooo ... what else do you need? Oh ya, I forgot to read this newspaper this morning so catching up while doing my job at the wheel or (the bus into the wrong street) sort the traffic rules, my bus is many times bigger than your tiny car.
Kangaroo court? No, it's called applying common sense.
Chewkw thinks you are guilty thus you get no one to defend you.
Yes, I am in the union but do I really need someone to defend me if I am blatantly wrong? i.e. if I am reading at the wheel! I mean the laws do not even allow a driver to use mobile let alone read newspaper and with the responsibility of so many passenger. It's a bit embarrassing isn't it having someone to defend for the obvious wrong? I would like to be defended if fat cat is trying to take away my livelihood without justification but the above bus drivers? WTF!
cynic-al - Memberchewkw is in the "kill paedos" camp so I'd not take his views on justice too seriously.
LOL! Yes, there are times when an item is damaged beyond repair that the only way to prevent further damage is to recycle it.
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p/s: 😆 @ "rouge", should be [b]rogue[/b] ... no, no he can wear as much make-up or wear a skirt if he likes so long as he drives the bus with responsibility.
So chewk - you have decided befoer the hearing he is guilty and therefore should not be defended.
could be mental health difficulties?
Could be a spurious complaint from a vexatious passenger
I'd buy a car so I didn't have to see him any more.
Could be a spurious complaint from a vexatious passenger
I love the word "vexatious".
Carry on....
TandemJeremy - MemberSo chewk - you have decided befoer the hearing he is guilty and therefore should not be defended.
Yes, there will be investigation but if the CCTV shows his irresponsible manner there is no need to go for elaborate proceeding. He gets it there and then.
could be mental health difficulties?
Those who employed him and all those that know his condition and yet put him in that responsibility should be fired. End off. As for the driver if that is the case he should have long gone and not to be put in that sort of responsibility. No sympathy for him whatsoever because there are more lives at stake.
Could be a spurious complaint from a vexatious passenger
That is another story but obviously there is investigation but if he is caught on the CCTV ... he gets to wax polish the entire fleet of bus and pump the tire of airplane ... 😆
road tax
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