Jeremy Corbyn

If you choose. 😆

So he did what he wanted and screw the consequences, except that now he has to face the consequences

That would be Diane "Consequences" Abbott now would it? 🙂

So in a few days we've gone from not singing a song, to not kneeling, to liaisons he may have had decades ago with fellow leftwingers. And I was under the impression the tory press would have an endless amount of ammunition in the form of his actual politics. Things are much better than I ever expected 🙂

I'm waiting for the headline 'Jeremy Corbyn took LSD in 1972'.

Still 475 days in office is the mid price at the bookies. Spread 30 days either side - buyers or sellers at 445 - 505?

About a 12% spread !!... There don't mind do they ?? ... license to print money that

490 - 520 with me... in a ten STP (SingleTrack Pounds)

Who'd like to get the first mark on the board ?

dazh - Member

So in a few days we've gone from not singing a song, to not kneeling, to liaisons he may have had decades ago with fellow leftwingers. And I was under the impression the tory press would have an endless amount of ammunition in the form of his actual politics. Things are much better than I ever expected

You're forgetting "Corbyn aide attacks cameraman".

Is 2571 posts in circa two months a record for a politics thread? I remember the Ding Dong Witch is dead thread being hot, but this has consistently been on the front page for what seems a much longer time now (although I could be wrong, obvs). Says a lot about JC's ability to create debate and interest at the very least, I suppose.

If the Labour Party were to gang up and replace Corbyn - who would they have? Given his huge popularity I reckon it'd be electoral suicide, even more.

Tom Watson probably.

IMO etc.

The blairites will be on the phone to David Milliband, have no doubt... If it comes to that, I'm reanimating John Smith. Zombinomics.

@grum You didn't respond to the point about why the Tories will ensure this stays the headlines. Blaming the press for everything isn't going to help you or the cause of the left wing. Corbyn is fatally damaged goods which is why so many outside Labour wanted to see him win. Just imagine how the pressure is going to step up as we approach an election, as I've said the SNP are going to make mincemeat of Corbyn

@v8ninety yes indeed, I was a bit surprised to see it continue, I think the Scots referendum thread went for longer with more posts though. Personally I'm happy to let things run their course with Corbyn, no further comment needed here. Equally surprised to see given the migrant chaos in Europe with border controls reinstated in many European countries, razor wire border fences installed (although nothing like the huge ones between Spain and Morocco) and Germay suspending all trains from Austria for a while there is not a peep on the migrant thread.

Corbyn is fatally damaged goods

fatally damaged goods

So, when will the media bring up these major faults/issues? Are they saving it up for a rainy day or just waiting until there is some other [s]Tory-led attack on the poor[/s] news to be buried?

Corbyn is fatally damaged goods

No one was expecting him to win your vote or admiration it not like he will start killing Palestinians ant day now is it.

John McDonnell AND Alex Salmond on QT tonight. Sandy Toksvig too - I reckon Elizabeth Truss will be wearing full body armour. And a certain forum ire will be dressing in his finest lingerie and sitting in a dark room.

I see Ernie's economist,Andrew Fisher, has been appointed a Political Adviser to Corbyn.

I find it remarkable that some people think that whilst Corbyn has his own ideas, he's too stupid to understand that he'll have to moderate them as leader.

ESPECIALLY since he's been talking about looking for consensus the whole time.

You keep trying to push this agenda. Smear, smear and more smear. Tell me, [b]are you actually able to make up your own mind[/b] based on reality or do you inhabit your own jambaverse where you suck in all the bullshit fed to you by the media you like and with whom you agree, and spew it back here expecting people to believe it?

Corbyn is fatally damaged goods

Well their website keeps the Panto theme going. Confusion over productivity and a shadow chancellor who claims that the banking sector is "unregulated" (no really). Blimey and folk thought havng a historian in charge of the exchequer was scary.

A fitting team - almost beyond parody.

So they cannot count on your vote then

Who could have predicted you and Jam were not won over ...JC will be gutted to hear this.

Panto - keep saying it. Over and over and over and over. It never gets boring. And yes, people really will start to believe it and start using it too. Just keep saying it. Don't stop.

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What what.

[quote=teamhurtmore ]almost beyond parody.Which is more than can be said for you and jam

You have to appreciate that you think he's ridiculous because you think he's wrong, and you think he's wrong because you're tories.

The thing is - you have to admit, as even I do, that there's more than one way to win the game. I think that what defines you is what you think the aim of the game actually is.

You've proved your own point DD, well done. Audience participation as well!!

As much a I would love more laughs, too tired for QT. The wonders of iplayer and other "capitalist toys" ! 😉

Which is more than can be said for you and jam

Indeed, the attention is most flattering. Odd when the topic is Corbyn - easy to miss in a frenzy though

So mol. To turn things back on topic. Is it ridiculous for a shadow chancellor to claim that the UK banking sector is unregulated? Simple question.

...capitalist toys

Yes, you're obviously tired. Time for a Horlicks and early to bed. Perhaps that 189 page report took it out of you.

Just keep repeating "Panto" over and over again. It'll soon send you off.

You have to appreciate that you think he's ridiculous because you think he's wrong, and you think he's wrong because you're tories.

I see Ernie's economist,Andrew Fisher, has been appointed a Political Adviser to Corbyn

ernie has his own economist 😯 Bloody Islington champagne socialists!

LU2 DD LU2 😀

Now I am sure there was an actutal thread topic here somewhere

I love the way you pretend you dont want it to be about you even after you have just baited a poster

So genuine and honest and not at all dishonest

Most labour MPs think he's a fruitloop. They're not tories

Sure?

I suspect they are worried about the electability of their party, rather than actual economics. If they started believing the electorate wanted Corbyn, they'd be behind him like a shot.

So if it's only the Tories tha think the whole thing is somewhat ridiculous, then old Jezza is a miracle worker

The Indie - "And in the first in-depth polling since his election as leader, fewer than one in five voters think that he has a chance of winning the 2020 election."

At the same time as increasing membership of the labour party he must be doing the same thing for the boys in blue. We are obviously underestimating him. Amazing, perhaps the initials were the give away?

Buyer at 475 then obviously!!

Bloody [s]Islington [/s] Croydon champagne socialists

So if it's only the Tories tha think the whole thing is somewhat ridiculous,

No. A lot of labour supporters could well agree with him but they think a move to the left will leave the party unelectable. Possibly the majority. This is why the Guardian didn't support him. NOT because they think the policies won't work.

I suspect they are worried about the electability of their party, rather than actual economics. If they started believing the electorate wanted Corbyn, they'd be behind him like a shot.

Well, yes. But... 😆

But what?

😀 😀

And in the first in-depth polling since his election as leader, fewer than one in five voters think that he has a chance of winning the 2020 election

Total Con Lab LibDem UKIP
Weighted Sample 1649 561 462 115 198

I see Ernie's economist,Andrew Fisher, has been appointed a Political Adviser to Corbyn.

I didn't know that. Although I can't say it's entirely surprising I am nevertheless utterly stunned and amazed that Andrew Fisher should now be adviser to the leader of the Labour Party !

How quickly things can change in politics - it's only a couple months or so ago that I heard Andrew Fisher talking at a meeting which consisted of about a dozen people, the possibility of putting the arguments he was offering beyond an audience of a small meeting appeared to be completely non-existence.

It is extremely rare for me to buy books, I have Andrew Fisher's book 'The Failed Experiment'. Last month Jeremy Corbyn came to speak to a packed overflowing meeting in Croydon, Andrew Fisher was there. Corbyn was over an hour late arriving so Andrew Fisher spoke to help fill the time. I was more interested in hearing Andrew Fisher speaking because I always learn something when he does than hearing Jeremy Corbyn who invariably comes out the same deary stuff that I already know all about.

I think it's fair to say that I pleased to hear that news mefty 🙂

I think it's fair to say that I pleased to hear that news mefty

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I am pleased to the bearer of good (for you at least) news, although my wording could have been better because I ascribed totally inappropriate proprietary rights to yourself.

5thElefant - Member

Most labour MPs think he's a fruitloop. They're not tories (yet).

Most Labour MPs as self-serving careerists aren't conviction politicians, and therefore are likely to be bemused by ones who are such as Corbyn and Skinner.

The bad news for Labour MPs is that the British public tends to see them as they see all other MPs - greedy, incompetent, and without credibility.

Corbyn would be well advised to look at how the SNP handle the issue of the Monarch

Never mind Andrew Fisher's appointment. Hasn't Cameron just appointed an ex CEO of Standard Chartered as a policy advisor? A bank so steeped in filth that it was fined for, ahem, not tracking transactions closely enough (or as many of us normal people would call it, "money laundering") TWICE.

You couldn't make it up.

@kona I didn't say Corbyn should take note of their policy stance on a currency now did I 😉

@molgrips the primary goal in politics is to get elected, unless you can do that it's simply an excersize in ego. The irony is Corbyn only made it past the MP nomination round as most of the MPs who supported him thigh the had no chance of wining they just wanted a broader debate to nudge some of the other candidates a bit further left,

@dd I worked for them for 11 years. Who by the way, I can't find a story.

The US fines where bollix and where in relation to a very small number of transactions with Iran which where permitted in UK / rest of the World but not the US. Their crime was to put them through the NY branch (and try to hide it), had they not done that if would have been in compliance with US sanctions. The second instance they flagged it up to the US authorities as internal audit caught the deals. What really ticked off the US authorities was a whistleblower who reported the deals and quoted the CFO as saying "**** the Americans telling us what to do in the Middle East". Now of course the US is lifting sanctions on Iran so there would be no issue at all. Also as an aside the last Labour government hired an ex CEO/Chairman and made him a Lord.

I worked for them for 11 years

So you worked for a bank involved in money laundering for 11 years. Who you're a little bit over-eager to defend?
Oh, everything was hunky dorey. 😆

As you were. Appoint the crook then. He sounds like quite the Tory.