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No picture? Just the one reference to students?
You're slipping old boy, and it's sad to see. Perhaps you should follow your advice to Corbyn and shuffle off to the allotment.
Still nothing to say?
Still rather just talk about me?
An empty vessel, just like your useless beardy hero
Well, at least we’ve all moved on from talking about Jeremy Corbyn. Can we get the thread title changed?
If you spread manure over the soil now, it'll be just right for planting in the Spring.
It should be titled ‘Binners’ as slagging anyone off who dares to criticise the allotment-dwelling ****-wit seems to take priority over everything
It seems the truth hurts when you have no answers and exist in some Waco style cult
Have you got your onion sets planted yet?
I planted daffodil and tulip bulbs on Sunday. I fundamentally disagree with uncle Monty
Got anything to say about your messiah? Defend the indefensible?
The present leader of the Labour Party is doing his best to clean up Jezza’s mess
https://twitter.com/keir_starmer/status/1328793679268634624?s=21
Get some sleep, you need it at your age, and there's the Christmas potatoes to lift in the morning.
No mention of Ramsbottom yet?
FFS!!! If anyone still believes Corbyn isn’t actually working for the Tory party then they’re delusional
It’s the only rational explanation
He is their most loyal and efficient servant. All their birthdays and Christmases come at once.
I don't think the StB are still going
No mention of Ramsbottom yet?
I'm sure you can get a prescription for that.
I’m sure you can get a prescription for that.
Do you think you could get one for whatever allergic reaction binners provokes in you?
Do you think you could get one for whatever allergic reaction binners provokes in you?
More entertainment than anything. Binners comes a close second to trump in projecting his own failings onto others.
In English?
Maybe try some punctuation?
Hey... here’s a mad idea.... instead of just slagging me off, why not address the issue of the thread and justify your god.
It’s a pretty Leftfield thought, but then you are lefties so surely your natural territory
Let’s all benefit from your undoubted wisdom
GO...!
See! You can do it after all.
Difficult decision on giving Corbyn back the parliamentary whip today. Should we talk about that, or what Binners had for breakfast?
Can't we talk about sixth formers, allotments and the Life of Brian?
It seems the cult members are determined to make Starmers decision for him.
A quick look on social media shows that Jeremy's supporters have decided to celebrate his readmission to the party by mounting a concerted attack on Margaret Hodge and Luciana Berger, who both just happen to be Jewish. Margaret Hodge has said she'll resign if Corbyn is reinstated this morning. I doubt she'll be alone.
Classy. And tells you everything you need to know about the antisemitism of those on the left of the labour party which Corbyn has still not apologised for.
Her asseesment of the situation seems pretty bang on to me
https://twitter.com/margarethodge/status/1328771757621252096?s=20
“Once again we find ourselves having to remind the Labour party that Jeremy Corbyn is not the victim of Labour antisemitism – Jewish members are”
So much for Jeremy shuffling off to spend more time with his broad beans? It seems he's still pretty committed to seeing how much more damage he can do to the labour party. He made it unelectable and seems he wants to keep it that way. I've not seen the Tory press today but I'm sure they're gleefully having a field day with this. The gift of Magic Grandad just keeps on giving.
Him and his bunker-dwelling, self-absorbed, sixth form supporters will be spending today gift-wrapping Boris another 'get out of jail free' card.
It's a terrible indictment of the education system. Imagine a poor soul who did not make it into the sixth form is condemned for the rest of their life banging on about sixth formers, posting sixth formish python humour, ageism (grandad), racism ('Jeremy, peace be upon him'), loves Griggs and hates organic food, a chip butty on both shoulders, whilst sucking up to the rich and privileged. I support comprehensive education so that this terribly sad state of affairs doesn't repeat.
We're still talking about me then? To avoid addressing the actual subject of the thread?
Right. OK
We really do need to change the thread title
Note that Jewish voice for labour have always supported Corbyn and still do. the jewish membership of labour is not monolithic and its very interesting how the dissenting voices - those who do not condemn Corbyn are rarely quoted
Hodge and Berger are both poisonous individuals
So does Margaret Hodge not believe in a truly independent complaints system either then? Seems like she's not accepting all the reports recommendations.
Magic grandad's record includes saving a Jewish cemetary Margaret Hodge's council were selling off to developers - the bastard
https://twitter.com/martin_bulmanMR/status/1328777049251717121?s=20
That would be BNP favourite Margaret Hodge
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/may/27/thefarright.communities
The British National Party has supported Margaret Hodge in calling for British-born families to take priority over immigrants in the queue for council homes.
They have seized on the Labour MP's comments as a vindication of its extremist policies. 'Labour MP Margaret Hodge deserves a word of compliment from the BNP for her efforts to raise the thorny issue of social housing for native Britons, an issue that has been in our manifesto for years,' the far right party says on its website. 'Britain is full and there is no more room for any economic migrants, whatever language they speak, what religion they practice and what they look like.'
Note that Jewish voice for labour have always supported Corbyn
Jon Lansman (founder of momentum and a Jewish supporter of Corbyn ) has called JVL “an organisation that is tiny and has no real connection with the Jewish community at all” and Marie van der Zyl (president of the board of deputies of British Jews ) has referred to them as “representative of no ones views but their own” I don’t think it’s a secret that they (JVL) are a front for a pretty robust Corbyn support organisation is it?
Identity politics is a great distraction from class politics. Look how debates get mired by it often with people not knowing the difference between zionism, semitism, apartheid let alone Balfour, 1948, 1967, Nation State and so on. That's why it's very convenient for the maintenance of the status quo. Identity politics is great for shutting down debates: you're challenging my lived experience, I'm a this and therefore, you're a that and therefore, ad hominems galore, and the best bit is you don't need any evidence.
Corbyn was weak and lacking in vision not to understand the forces that were up against him. He's given his apology and is now hamstrung. LP membership will now spend years squabbling over resolutions, this Leader against that Leader, passing motions on the conference floor, and being completely ineffectual. All part of the plan.
I'm not sure about the credibility of JVL but there are numerous Jewish people who support Corbyn but they get shouted down or ignored or discredited.
Are we saying that not all Jewish people think in the same way, amazing.
Magic grandad’s record includes saving a Jewish cemetary Margaret Hodge’s council were selling off to developers – the bastard
that the West London Synagogue had already agreed to sell to property developers...for balance, like.
Could you not find anyone other than Margaret Hodge to quote? Not exactly the paragon of ethical and political probity, however much she likes to present herself as the champion of the downtrodden.
How would 'white old man's voice for Labour' go down?
I've said this before - but this is all so depressing. As a non-factional member of the Labour Party holding local office it's really tiring and distracting from the real business.
Both sides of the argument are obsessed with it to the point that it dominates or provides an undercurrent to almost all discussions.
We have a dangerously incompetent government and focus of opposition is elsewhere.
SKS visits a synagogue on a day to promote good deeds and inter faith charity etc.
Obviously, the sewer overflows...
https://twitter.com/twlldun/status/1328973493782851585?s=19
Hands up if you are in the Corbyn Cult?
No, nobody?
The only cultist is the anti Corbyn Binners. I imagine his basement walls to be covered in pics of corbz, we know he keeps a stock of pics on his cpu!
Most of the supposed Corbyn cultists on here* have balanced opinions on him and see that he wasnt up to the job but also see he has been treated badly by his own party and the media. I have said numerous times that I wanted Corbyn out after he lost to TM (If you lose to TM then you really cant win) & he would have been out if it hadn't been for the ridiculous chicken coup that strengthened his hand.
I support Starmer and hope he wins the next election.
*Twitter is a different place
Obviously, the sewer overflows…
Confirming that criticism of zionism, the actions of the Israeli government, and defence of the Palestinians are indeed equated with anti-semitism. Well done.
And if anyone thinks Margaret Hodge is an impartial critic of Corbyn on the subject of AS then you should possibly do a tiny bit of research. The party will be well shot of her.
equated with anti-semitism.
I'm hoping you skim read that twitter thread Dazh. There are plenty of examples of naked antisemitism in the responses clipped from Facebook in it. Avoiding the "comments" on Facebook is wise though.
I’m hoping you skim read that twitter thread Dazh.
I'm not at all saying there are not examples of AS on that thread, but there are also lots of comments being portrayed as AS which are criticisms of Israel. Until we separate the two any comments about sewers are stupid. That was my point.
I’m hoping you skim read that twitter thread Dazh.
likewise - tweets saying israeli billionaires were behind starmer's election as leader are very much antisemitic and that should not need spelling out. But probably does. And those that play to different tropes are at very best whataboutery. Come on.
And that clipping on Hodge? She was cross because she lost a debate? Okay. You'll remember that her researcher Stephen Twigg named in the clip was the guy who went on to unseat Portillo. What a loser...
That Hodge rant reported on from WAY back on the day... she was 100% right though, wasn't she... Labour kicked the Tories out by ignoring Corbyn and the crowd at that debate as regards clause four and modernisation.
NEWS : Corbyn not getting the parliamentary whip back... not sure that's the right move... also don't know what the right move is.
Are we all appreciating the irony of this political decision?
What? Of politicians making political decisions?
Irony? The system that the EHRC has said is unfit for purpose produces a judgement to prove that it's unfit for purpose?
What? Of politicians making political decisions?
No. The leadership was criticised in the EHCR report for political interference in its handling of complaints. Subsequently, an NEC disciplinary investigation gave Corbyn a slap on the wrist following his unfortunate comments, but the new leadership decided it didn't like the outcome.
NEWS : Corbyn not getting the parliamentary whip back… not sure that’s the right move… also don’t know what the right move is.
Good move? There aren’t any, but it might be the least worst option.