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The last time he won over voters was the election, nothing since then
But what about winning over voters beyond machinations of the party… what has he done recently* towards that end?
Did you not attend the Durham Miners Gala at the weekend then comrade?
Jeremy saw an opportunity to take his message to exactly the sort of swing voters in marginal seats that he'll need to convince if he's to win the next election, and won them over with a reasoned, clear and concise summary of labour policy.
He also shrewdly chose an event that receives extensive coverage in the mainstream media thus ensuring the message was spread far and wide.
Next stop; an evening meeting in a few weeks, at a Labour Club in Rotherham to discuss Palestine
Interesting to see some of the forces lined up against him:
https://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/thelobby/
Well… I managed six minutes… happy to accept that groups that are openly pro Israel, and have Israel in their name, have pro Israel “infiltrators” and are supported by Israel. Does the doc get any juicier?
ps… I haven’t stopped boycotting Israel made goods myself, have you? You can do all in your power to protest at the way Israel treats it’s neighbours and citizens, and still want our political parties to be free from antisemitism.
Advert in the Graun tomorrow...
All very odd...
Odd that she had worked at the Embassy, or odd that she mouthed off about someone expelled from the party for antisemitism?
Somebody best nip up to the allotment and let him know.
bigmountainscotland:
If a black person was complaining because some racist asshole was being racist, would you be there commenting on how oddly black they were ?
Depends on whether they're being actively black, I suppose?
If they are, then they deserve everything they get!
The context is this:
which shows the link between the Israeli embassy and the plot to bring Corbyn down. You may also spot another "innocent victim" from the Panorama programme. Of course Ella May might have just been making tea ...
You mean the Israeli embassy doesn't warmly welcome the idea of a jew-hateing regime in a major partner country, the 5th largest economy in the world? A regime that would be headed by friends of those who actively seek the destruction of Israel ?
Those jews have no sense of irony!
It's like black people getting all up and bothered about having the BNP, white robes in hand, one mis-step away from government - It oughtn't to be allowed!
Impressive imagination at work, cranberry.
And another PMQ's comes and go's with no mention of the 'B' Word. It was an interesting affair as it happened in reverse. The PM managed to spend it questioning Jezza about antisemitism in the Labour party. Another benchmark in restoring democracy passed for Magic Grandad. The leader of the opposition is the one who has to answer the questions now.
He did manage to get his usual shouty 10-second soundbite in, to keep all the sixth-form Corbyn-thwappers on social media happy. This week it was climate change. He looked very very cross indeed. For the whole ten seconds. It'll look great as a meme on Twitter. Should be up on there by now.
Right..... back to the allotment for another week then....
Blaah blaah allotment blaah blaah magic grandad blaah blaah monty python blaah blaah
Rumour has it that he's been too busy to address Brexit or antisemitism as he's been on location recording a socialist reboot of Last of the Summer Wine where the trio visit Venezuela then return to set up a workers Utopia in the Dales where they overthrow the evil capitalist parish council and proudly fly a Palestinian flag from the church spire
This week it was climate change
Ermm no it wassnt. It was primarily air pollution which given how many people it kills is rather an important issue.
Also bearing in mind that since its two PMQs since he raised Brexit extensively and the maybot failed to answer anything and, sadly, there has been no change since. Why shouldnt other issues be dealt with?
Do you really want no challenging of the PM on any subjects aside from Brexit bearing in mind we all know there isnt any change?
I'll pop onto Red Labour Twitter shortly to get the clip, comrade. Have a quick read of the fawning comments that accompany it, settle back into my socialist comfort zone and await the revolution
I'm taking it the other 90% of PMQ's where he was being accused of institutional racism by the Tory party (yes, we really are through the looking glass now) won't be included. Just the usual 10 second shouty bit to camera.
Hearts and minds, comrade. Hearts and minds
I’ll pop onto Red Labour Twitter shortly to get the clip, comrade
Thanks for reminding me that the brexiteers dont have a monopoly on idiots who are incapable of a reasoned discussion and just regurgitate whatever has been fed them.
You mean the Israeli embassy doesn’t warmly welcome the idea of a jew-hateing regime in a major partner country, the 5th largest economy in the world? A regime that would be headed by friends of those who actively seek the destruction of Israel ?
Or more like the Israeli embassy that doesn't warmly welcome the idea of a regime that is happy to point out the failings and human rights abuses of Israel and may change the way Israel is dealt with as a result of it. I can see why Israel might not like that to the point they may stir it up.
Thanks for reminding me that the brexiteers dont have a monopoly on idiots who are incapable of a reasoned discussion and just regurgitate whatever has been fed them.
Thats why we need a Corbyn government comrade. To prevent the brainwashing that leads to us all believing everything we're spoon-fed by the right wing press barons, and becoming unthinking capitalist stooges and the lackeys of the military-industrial complex, incapable of independent thought
That is, after all, the only possible explanation for us questioning the beardy messiah and the bright socialist future the glorious leader offers
Or more like the Israeli embassy that doesn’t warmly welcome the idea of a regime that is happy to point out the failings and human rights abuses of Israel and may change the way Israel is dealt with as a result of it. I can see why Israel might not like that to the point they may stir it up.
Which is what I expect of the Israeli embassy. What I don't expect (*) is that the BBC tumble into this trap, even though it's been well publicised, and take as unalloyed truth the words of individuals known to be part of this campaign.
(*) Not strictly true. Regrettably, it's precisely what I DO expect of the BBC.
Nobody is disputing that the present Israeli government is well beyond the pale, and their treatment of Palestinians is inexcusable
Any right-thinking person knows this, but could you just fill me in on how Tweeting death threats to Margaret Hodge and constantly harassing Luciana Berger helps undermine the regime of Benjamin Netanyahu and brings about a 2 state solution?
Thanks in advance....
It’s a sorry state of affairs when Binners is the one talking sense. What is going on??!?
So, what is this “plot”…? Is it a plot to uncover, expose, and seek to make political capital out of clear cases of antisemitism in the Labour Party, and the attempts to brush them under the carpet? Or is it a plot to make it all up? Please be clear on this if you are posting clips, and making vague implication of nefarious shenanigans. And as for the BBC making a programme about it… …how very dare they!
Any right-thinking person knows this, but could you just fill me in on how Tweeting death threats to Margaret Hodge and constantly harassing Luciana Berger helps undermine the regime of Benjamin Netanyahu and brings about a 2 state solution?
Err ... I've no idea - does anyone claim that it does? Or is this another Monty Python reference that I'm not getting?
You are Seamas Milne and I claim my little red book and signed, framed print of Len McClusky!
Here comes a mainstream right wing media tweet or two… feel free to ignore it all…
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1151484680870301696?s=21
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1151485064057937920?s=21
So, what is this “plot”…? Is it a plot to uncover, expose, and seek to make political capital out of clear cases of antisemitism in the Labour Party, and the attempts to brush them under the carpet? Or is it a plot to make it all up?
I'd also like to hear the specifics of the plot.
When accused of antisemitism claiming the blame actually lies with a country which has 75.4pc Jewish citizens is a bit counter productive. It's like the old joke about the Germans never forgiving the Jews for the Holocaust.
could you just fill me in on how Tweeting death threats to Margaret Hodge and constantly harassing Luciana Berger helps undermine the regime of Benjamin Netanyahu and brings about a 2 state solution?
Yes, it is hard to see how calling two female Labour MPs “Zionist cum buckets” is legitimate support for Palestinians.
(EDIT in answer to Kelvin)
Do not blame them!
Re Zionist cum buckets: Its not beyond the realms of possibility that people make up twitter accounts to say AS stuff and cause trouble for Labour is it?
Yeah... the whole thing is fake Twiitter accounts, definitely not traceable back to Chris Williamson
Mind that tinfoil helmet on the bunker roof, comrade, and whatever you do don’t go any any of the Corbynites social media feeds, or Margaret Hodges, or Luciana Berger, if you still want to carry on sticking your fingers and your ears, going ‘LA LA LAAAAA I’m not listening’ and trying to convince yourself labour (or one element of it) doesn’t have a serious issue with antisemitism
Anyone else invite a rampant homophobe to lunch today?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Re Zionist cum buckets: Its not beyond the realms of possibility that people make up twitter accounts to say AS stuff and cause trouble for Labour is it?
"Zionist cum buckets" wasn't false flag it's a quote from a Labour member.
In contrast, anonymous quotes could easily be false flag.
"The Labour Party has long supported and campaigned for LGBT+ inclusive education in schools,
The Labour party certainly has. In 2003 Labour abolished Section 28, which banned the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools.
Corbyn abstained from that in a whipped vote.
(In contrast George Osborne, John Bercow & Boris Johnson voted to abolish against their whip.)
Yeah… the whole thing is fake Twiitter accounts, definitely not traceable back to Chris Williamson
Mind that tinfoil helmet on the bunker roof, comrade, and whatever you do don’t go any any of the Corbynites social media feeds, or Margaret Hodges, or Luciana Berger, if you still want to carry on sticking your fingers and your ears, going ‘LA LA LAAAAA I’m not listening’ and trying to convince yourself labour (or one element of it) doesn’t have a serious issue with antisemitism
Was it Chris Williamson who said Zionist Cum Buckets? I genuinely didn't know, kick him out quick.
Re Zionist cum buckets: Its not beyond the realms of possibility that people make up twitter accounts to say AS stuff and cause trouble for Labour is it?
of course not. Some of these troublemakers even go as far as to become leader of the Labour party
etc etc and so on and so forth
Was it Chris Williamson who said Zionist Cum Buckets? I genuinely didn’t know, kick him out quick.
So you do think the guy who described two female Labour MPs as "Zionist Cum Buckets" should have been kicked out quick?
Yes of course and if they haven't already I'm sure they will be.
Yes of course and if they haven’t already I’m sure they will be.
That's the point. He wasn't, Thomas Gardiner refused to do it against the advice of his staff.
Refused to fast track it and...?
Refused to fast track it and…?
My recollection is he refused to take any action whatsoever. You'd need to watch the documentary yourself to double check my memory.
Makes no difference to the point in dispute. You're saying the quote came from an anonymous twitter account, potentially a false flag. I'm saying it was an identified Labour member.
You're now saying that the correct action WRT the guy who said it is to "kick him out quick".
Many people would agree with you on that last point.
The Labour party certainly has. In 2003 Labour abolished Section 28, which banned the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools.
Corbyn abstained from that in a whipped vote.
Really?! I’ve stopped looking at Corbyn’s past parliamentary voting record… mostly because it makes me feel like a complete mug for voting for Labour with him as leader.
Yes I hope that person is kicked out for racism and sexism.