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As always, hypocrisy rears its head.
E.g. Thatcher was not just a terrorist sympathiser, she even called a dictator a 'true friend'. Your minds must have forgotten this history as you try to sling shit at others. 🙄
1. The Queen met Martin McGuiness
2. Martin McGuiness was a member of the IRA
3. The Queen is a terrorist supporter
(At least, I think that's how it works...)
E.g. Thatcher was not just a terrorist sympathiser, she even called a dictator a 'true friend'. Your minds must have forgotten this history as you try to sling shit at others.
It depends on the terrorist. She wasn't too keen on Nelson Mandela IIRC.
When Corbyn was elected it was one of my first posts that his links and sympathy with terrorists would be an electoral issue for Labour.
This again?
He has [i]never[/i] declared "sympathy" for terrorists: refusing to single out one terrorist group over another [i]is not[/i] sympathising.
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Jambalaya had cheered me up with his ridiculousness. My wife saw the Wolfe tones last year and in Ireland to boot, she is very English- military dad, sister was a Wren, my wife ended up with a very bad hangover. Dodgy people these fenians
Isn't there a Tory councillor who was a member of the IRA??
That will be Maria Gatland oldracer.
Let's hope he didn't talk to any of his fellow members while he was in the IRA then.
I suppose one could add Maria to that list of not taking to old work buddies too..
I repeat.
Christ you do come out with some bollocks jamba.
Have you any idea how ridiculous you're sounding constantly banging on about terrorist links? I might have thought that like the rest of them, you might take the day off from campaigning but it seems that for you, there is nothing from which you wouldn't seek to make some political capital.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
He's best ignored DD to be honest, actually makes Chewkw sound sensible at times....
Have you any idea how ridiculous you're sounding constantly banging on about terrorist links?
I dunno those lyrics were pretty incendiary
"Isn't there a Tory councillor who was a member of the IRA?? ""http://evolvepolitics.com/realise-current-conservative-politician-literally-member-ira-right/
I dunno those lyrics were pretty incendiary
I dunno mate, I daren't read them lest I go out and do some killin' loike.
EDIT: Fifteen THOUSAND!! 😀
Hehe, Mon the wolfies. 😆
Jamba. I'll take you to a gig at the brazen heid one night. Give ye the fright of yer life by the sounds of it. Might even enjoy yerself! 😆
From the fighting first battalion of the Santa ponsa brigade! 
Ok so direct quotes from IRA man Sean O'Callaghan that directly implicate Corbyn can be safely ignored because they were printed in The Sun, whereas years of denial from The Guardian that muslim rape gangs existed means diddly squat. Ha. Ha. Ha.
oh boy........
Who said that? I was simply helping you with identifying your quote enfht. I can't imagine why you didn't say where you copied and pasted it from.
But here you are again, and now you want to talk
About rape gangs. Yesterday it was child abuse.
Are you ok?
Just pointing out your state of denial which despite reality appears to be unwavering. The left have truly dug themselves into a corner.
Ok so direct quotes from IRA man Sean O'Callaghan that directly implicate Corbyn can be safely ignored because they were printed in The Sun
as opposed to direct quotes from IRA men turned peace makers like adams (allegedly) and mcguiness who contradict him
not to mention that O'Callaghan has history as [url= http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ira-renegade-changes-story-on-death-claim-26185986.html ]a renowned liar and fantasist who has admitted in court to making up stories to journalists for cash
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and claimed he was selected by the IRA to kill Charles & Diana, but he called it off and saved them
he spent years saying that the peace process was just a sham and the IRA would take up arms again at any minute
obviously quality media like the mail/sun/telegraph etc would check the credentials of any source, when something so controversial was being claimed
but enfht, keep reading the Sun and Im sure it will spoon feed you all you want to hear
[quote=enfht ]Just pointing out your state of denial which despite reality appears to be unwavering.
Oh the irony
Bloody hell. Another poll this time FIVE points!
Just heard on R4 he'll be doing a speech on terrorism/ foreign policy tomorrow- stay tuned Jamba.
Corbyn - the gift that keeps on giving. @ctk The Independent has a drfat of what he'll say.
“We must be brave enough to admit the ‘war on terror’ is simply not working. We need a smarter way to reduce the threat from countries that nurture terrorists and generate terrorism.”
Yep
Are you suggesting UK foreign policy has made the world a safer place?
Are you suggesting UK foreign policy has made the world a safer place?
I'll admit I don't know a huge amount about the foreign policy of the Philippines, but I wonder if foreign policy isn't the common factor here.
Reposted from another thread.
Worth a listen Flashy.
Anyone listen to the interview on PM yesterday with the young Mancunian of Libyan descent who knew the bomber?
I found his views on the causes of radicalisation quite eye opening.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qskw/episodes/player ]Link. From approx 47 minutes.[/url]
I hope someone was listening to him.
Is that Corbyns fault too?
How about this?
Rusty, have heard a little about that interview, and planning to listen tomorrow morning when I'm back at my desk. Thanks for the prompt, though!
@jambalaya, I don't think Corbyn is saying anything that everyone doesn't already know. UK foreign policy has been a disaster.
Cameron worst PM ever?
I'll admit I don't know a huge amount about the foreign policy
Well if you stopped and thought about it you might be able to figure out that Western foreign policy has helped to turn a tiny handful of penniless nutters into a massive terror group with a global reach.
And yes, with a reach as far as the Philippines.
And if you stopped and thought about it a little bit more you might also figure out that helping Al Qaeda, ISIS, and other terrorists organisations, establish themselves in Libya, as the previous Tory prime minister David Cameron did, wasn't a very good idea.
Possibly...but then came Mummy.
Cameron worst PM ever?
He has to be in the running. Smarmy so-and-so.
I've been thinking. Jeremy Corbyn, seriously cool.
Not cool in the same way as pre war Blair, but cool nonetheless.
A different kinda cool
Odd world when UKIP and Labour are trying to make political capital from very similar points.
What points?
Corbyn - the gift that keeps on giving.
I guess that's why the tories poll lead is down to 5 points from 24 even though the poll was taken after the Manchester attack. Anyway, you've obviously been itching to use this to highlight Corbyn's supposed weakness on security. The fact that this happened on May's watch (especially considering her previous role as home secretary), and that the war on terror has been about as effective as the war on drugs is obviously immaterial.
Listening to him now, Corbyn comes across very well. I think some clever people have helped him get the speech's priorities right.
Definitely touches the right talking points, but also sounds sincere (apart from the odd autocue moment). Something that very few in the Tory party can manage at the moment.
When I saw the current YouGuv poll, I honestly thought it was from before the Manchester bomb. Heartened to see that it wasn't.
"UK foreign policy would change under a Labour government to one that "reduces rather than increases the threat" to the country, Jeremy Corbyn is to say".
Security Minister Ben Wallace told the BBC his comments were "inappropriate and crassly timed".
And Lib Dem Leader Tim Farron accused Mr Corbyn of using the "grotesque" attack in Manchester to "make a political point".
I would have thought this is precisely the time to be discussing the cause of such atrocities.