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Mr Corbyn pledged to "democratise the internet" if he took power, including consulting on online election voting.

and....

[url= https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/aug/29/arizona-illinois-voter-registration-systems-hacked-fbi ]FBI says foreign hackers breached state election systems[/url].

Has Corbyn really got no clue at all?


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 12:12 pm
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hmmm..

maybe some new jobs would be created specifically for implementing better security for such an undertaking?

is that a bad thing?
maybe he does have a clue 🙂


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 12:17 pm
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maybe some new jobs would be created specifically for implementing better security for such an undertaking?

.. but we would probably also, under the rule of Chairman ****, keep all of the jobs now not being done by all of the people working on the current voting system as well.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 1:13 pm
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Thanks ninfan, actually it's not amusing really. What Stiglitz is now saying is blindingly obvious as [s]I said at the time[/s] anyone who had a clue said at the time. What I find concerning is that professional Nobel winning economists appear happy to [s]prostitute themselves[/s] condone such nonsense at the time

FIFY. Also key point here is he's an advisor to Corbyn and his credibility is sliding yet further. He does seem to have the right idea about the euro though that 1) it would be bad for Scotland and 2) it could spell the end of the EU/Europe


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 1:24 pm
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"Democratise the Internet" it must be a slow day, what does that even mean and who really cares anyway ? "I've decided to vote Labour in 2020 as I want high speed broadband pit in down our street"


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 1:26 pm
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An independent currency would be awful for Scotland, as it would be too volatile based on the oil price, so companies dealing with rUK would have to hedge and increase costs and risk.

Corbyn needs to work on his PR in Scotland, he was in Dundee recently and it was hardly reported. He'll need to do a lot, lot more to take on the SNP.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 1:33 pm
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Did he not believe that he could hold back the tide?

Knut deliberately demonstrated to his over-enthusiastic followers that he was only human by showing that he could not miraculously hold back the tide despite his courtiers insisting that he could, and despite their many votes.

I'm sure there's an analogy here if I just look hard enough.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 1:38 pm
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Bit of a conflict of interest surely if Stiglitz advises both SNP & Labour (he also has advised the USA (Clinton), the Greeks and Japan)?

TBF he is normally completely wrong, so anyone using him as a adviser is one to avoid in my book.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 1:39 pm
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"I've decided to vote Labour in 2020 as I want high speed broadband pit in down our street"

Given how shockingly bad the internet is in this country in some areas, and how increasingly dependent upon it our lives are becoming year after year, that's not such a bad thing to wish for if you happen to run a business from home, for example.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:05 pm
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Point taken but I very much doubt if you ran a business you'd vote for Corbyn. FWIW my BT broadband was consistently slower than my 3G never mind 4G signal.

@dragon Economists are never "right", you pay them for an opinion which you then discuss. Economjcs isn't about facts, its about theories, predictions or indeed guesswork if you like. Perfectly legit for him to be hired by multiple organisations, not a conflict of interest if handled correctly imo


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:19 pm
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what does that even mean and who really cares anyway ?

If you take off your blinkers for a second, there are some good ideas in there. But carry on with your juvenile loony left nonsense, not that anyone is actually listening anymore.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:20 pm
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not such a bad thing to wish for if you happen to run a business from home, for example

Running a business? That's only for ruthless exploiters of teh workerz innit?


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:21 pm
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I though the sign at the press launch said it all:

[IMG] [/IMG]


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:34 pm
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Did Jeremy find a seat ?


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:37 pm
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http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57c5699be4b02f8e29d7cfe9

🙂


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 2:46 pm
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Right, I am voting for Jeremy - all publicly funded software will be made available to [s]quiet bat people[/s] everyone.

I can't wait to get my hands on the command and control software for our nuclear submarines ( that should go to sea without any weapons ).

EDIT: Oh and a little info on Jeremy's new digital bezzie:

[url= http://order-order.com/2016/08/30/corbyns-digital-democracy-guru-supports-continuity-iras-armed-struggle/ ]http://order-order.com/2016/08/30/corbyns-digital-democracy-guru-supports-continuity-iras-armed-struggle/[/url]

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Posted : 30/08/2016 2:58 pm
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If you take off your blinkers for a second, there are some good ideas in there

Thing is Daz.. these private school numpties have been indoctrinated with smug self satisfied rhetoric since birth..
They're not generally very bright, but having been trained their whole lives to run and fetch the corporate bone, they think that their inflated pay packets indicate some sort of superiority..

They just yap out the same tired song generation to generation, without half a clue of what it means..
It's a funny old sense of esteem that they cling to, but they could no more dream of giving it up than we could dream of breathing underwater or taking to the skies.. Their brains are just too simple

It's daft really.. they're like automatons

It's very sad


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 4:14 pm
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Jeremy is just.... tragic.

Tragic.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 4:16 pm
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Thing is Daz.. these [s]public school numpties[/s] bitter loony lefties have been indoctrinated with Their smug self satisfied rhetoric since birth..
They're not generally very bright, but having been trained their whole lives to run and fetch for their union masters [s]the corporate bone[/s] they think that their [s]inflated pay packets[/s] right to spout leftist drivel indicates some sort of superiority..

They just yap out the same tired song generation to generation, without half a clue of what it means.. it's a funny old sense of esteem that they cling to, but they could no more dream of giving it up than we could dream of breathing underwater or taking to the skies.. Their brains are just too simple

It's daft really..

FTFY


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 4:24 pm
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that doesn't really make sense jon... try harder laddie 🙂


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 4:26 pm
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It really does, you know.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 4:27 pm
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silly bollocks 😆


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 4:31 pm
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This Digital Manifest, sounds very like Gordon Browns Digital Economy idea.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 5:08 pm
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@cranberry just when you thought it couldn't get any worse 😯 it starts to get hard to believe it's all just naive incompetance and it starts to look like the deliberate selection of a full on terrorist sympathiser.

these private school

Not me, council house and state school in Tooting to private home and state school / tertiary college in Hampshire then Bristol and Oxford Uni. Posted that before so you must have meant someone else, an imaginative Pantomine Villan perhaps ?

Have fun off to watch some mindless Jason Bourne entertainment at £5 a ticket, value shopping 🙂


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 5:59 pm
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it starts to look like the deliberate selection of a full on terrorist sympathiser.

As we are playing a game of complete and utter BS then Teresa is a Nazi sympathiser and she wants to eat your childrens liver

Ok your go


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 6:03 pm
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Does she have a badge?


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 6:31 pm
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Sorry Yunki, I hadn't commented recently so I thought i should contribute something of the same high brow cut and thrust of wot the rest of the thred is like......

Been dipping in occaisionally, I reckon Junky has reached gas marked 7, all been a quite amusing side show, bit like Corbyn really. 😈


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 6:43 pm
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if gas mark relates to boredom then a little higher

If it relates to "upset or some such" not even on gas mark 1

My main feeling is that its all pointless - RW folk clutching at straws and often just writing outright lies rather than just completely one sided and distorted. Left wing folk just taking the piss, Binners at gas mark 54 and DazH trying to have a grown up debate in all the noise as Yunki does what Yunki does best


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 6:46 pm
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Junkyard in all fairness you're usually the more thought provoking, less stereotypical left wing (and I use that description lazily) poster but this thread does not show you at your best.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 6:54 pm
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I gave up a long time ago as this is not a debate its just folk taking the piss out of each other- the only reason the mods have not killed it is because tit keeps folks in the one place

No one is coming out well from this thread but , like a slow motion car crash, I cannot look away


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 7:08 pm
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I wonder just how risible Tragic Jeremy's cock ups and incompetent embarrassments have to get, before his fanbase awake from their glassy-eyed dreams of a Perfect Socialist Zion...


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 7:28 pm
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@dragon Economists are never "right", you pay them for an opinion which you then discuss. Economjcs isn't about facts, its about theories, predictions or indeed guesswork if you like. Perfectly legit for him to be hired by multiple organisations, not a conflict of interest if handled correctly imo

This belongs on the EU thread with the other made up stuff Jambas.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 8:38 pm
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Or the homeopathy thread.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 8:50 pm
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DazH trying to have a grown up debate

Probably the first time I"ve ever been accused of that! I'm not immune to lefty grandstanding myself. My main point about Corbyn is that I'm still genuinely amazed that this leftwing resurgence could happen here, a supposedly rightwing conservative hotbed, and the most pro-market neo-liberal country in western Europe. No matter how much anyone dismisses it as 6th form socialist worker loony lefties or whatever else, something has clearly changed in the political psyche in this country. If it hadn't we'd currently be listening to the bland and ideologically bereft witterings of the likes of Cooper or Burnham. To be honest the more the usual suspects repeat this loony left nonsense the more I think it may result in something tangible and long-lasting as they obviously haven't a clue what's going on.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 9:27 pm
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Dont confuse protest politics with the resurgenece of LW (or RW) politics. That would be to miss the point completely.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 9:42 pm
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Dont confuse protest politics with the resurgenece of LW (or RW) politics

That's what I'm getting at. It seems all too easy to dismiss it as protest* politics. At what point do people sit up and admit something might actually be going on?

*Really not sure what that means. If politics isn't about protesting and acting against what the other side do, then what's the point?


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 9:55 pm
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People are making the same points (usually flawed, occasionally valid) against governments of all political persuasions. It's got little, perhaps FA, to do with a LW resurgence as you put it.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 10:00 pm
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As a paying customer we only ever paid for Dismal Scientist and that was as they where deliberately counter cultural as it where avoiding group-think. Rest of it isn't worth reading imo and I don't bother, something I learnt decades ago as an fx, rates and credit trader. Equity research and sectoral analysis yes. Economics work, waste of time. Lets round up the Brexit predictions and compare with reality in June 2017

Anyone have a clue of what JC might have been thinking appointing an IRA sympathiser ? He must have known

Jason Bourne was suitably entertaining, suspended reality for 2 hours I imagine much like you'd experience in a Corbyn Shadow cabinet meeting. I made an error as it was £5 for 2 tickets not each.


 
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Rest of it isn't worth reading imo and I don't bother

Evidently 😉


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 10:21 pm
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I gave up a long time ago as this is not a debate its just folk taking the piss out of each other- the only reason the mods have not killed it is because tit keeps folks in the one place

No one is coming out well from this thread but , like a slow motion car crash, I cannot look away

Can't see any reason anything here would even be reported, a bit of frustration with too many daft images from Chew aside.

Feel free to give it a break then. DrJ seems to be doing so. Clod not appeared lately either. You might be well served as Corbyn is so busy buggaring it all up by himself trying to argue his side must be desperately frustrating. I stepped back for a bit as Ernie's posts where getting lost in the cross fire.


 
Posted : 30/08/2016 10:22 pm
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[url= https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/30/labour-leadership-election-corbyn-leads-smith-24/ ]Looks like it's in the bag.[/url]

No doubt if he does win with an increased majority, it'll be because of a protest vote/communist takeover/mass hysteria/russian conspiracy/hallucinogenic drugs*

Or maybe it's because members, and perhaps even voters, want something different to what's been presented to them for the past 20-odd years?

*delete as appropriate


 
Posted : 31/08/2016 11:20 am
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I don't think that the result was ever seriously in question, just the scale of the disaster for Labour.

Its going to be a stonker.


 
Posted : 31/08/2016 12:19 pm
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yup... sgonna be a disaster...

cos 12 uppity yobbos on a mountain biking forum say corbyn's no good 😆


 
Posted : 31/08/2016 12:35 pm
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Excellent news. Here's hoping he makes it to 2020. Thread predictions 30,000 posts ?


 
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