They miss report *all* Politicians.
A couple of stories from Labour MPs have come out recently which speak to Corbyn's lack of leadership:
From Bristol MP Thangam Debbonaire:
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And from Newcastle MP, Chi Onwurah:
"I nominated Jeremy Corbyn because I didn’t want the debate to within the party to continue as it had. I was tired of pussyfooting around the fabled centre ground of politics which seemed to be defined as anywhere a tad to the kinder side of Tory policies. I wanted a party whose deep Labour roots fed a passion and commitment to making a better country for all of us.
And when Jeremy was elected with his huge mandate I welcomed the opportunity to change the economic narrative, to grow our party and champion real, radical change. As Shadow Minister for Culture and the Digital Economy I looked forward to working, under Jeremy’s leadership, on subjects I was passionate and indeed knowledgeable about.
But unfortunately that leadership did not emerge. The timing of the no-confidence vote was certainly not of my choosing, I wanted to focus on holding the Government to account and, critically, determine the narrative of Brexit. The Labour Party needed to recognise the hard work of our Remain campaigners, accept the outcome, commit to hold the Government to account for it and demonstrate determination to develop a Brexit that worked for ordinary people.
Unfortunately, what we got from the Leader’s office was an email promoting the two main Labour Leave campaigners, followed by another triumphantly explaining why Jeremy was the man of the moment – the voice of the Leave voter, and then a call for Article 50 to be triggered immediately. That combination of ineptitude and arrogance, added to the experience of the past ten months, determined my vote."
Wow. JC has never been in charge of anything, its clear he has no management or keadsrship skills. Chairman of Stop the War is really not the same as leading a department as a Minister never mind a party
Unfortunately, what we got from the Leader’s office was an email promoting the two main Labour Leave campaigners, followed by another triumphantly explaining why Jeremy was the man of the moment – the voice of the Leave voter, and then a call for Article 50 to be triggered immediately. That combination of ineptitude and arrogance, added to the experience of the past ten months, determined my vote."
Even I couldn't make this up !
You dont even get it right when describing what sort of stuff you are capable of making up....is there nothing you can get right? 😛
Warning:joke content to be clear
Its a mess for sure
The longer it goes on the less likely I am to vote for Corbyn
Jamba - I think we've got it cracked:
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So... as predicted when he announced it.. Jeremy has shown his political guile by blundering straight into Dave's enormous, and clearly signposted elephant trap
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/17/corbyn-puts-trident-fore-labour-divisions-deepen ]Labour leader tells the Guardian he has been campaigning for peace all his life and will put nuclear disarmament at the heart of his re-election campaign[/url]
I'm sure it'll go down a storm in the 80's political theme park that is the present labour party 'membership'. Meanwhile anyone outside the 6th form common room will shake there heads at the naive predictability of it, then wander off to see which far more pressing issues the grown up are talking about this week
I also hate people who campaign for peace and dont like weapons of mass destruction
I show this by simply attacking them in a childish manner then accusing them of being immature
Defeat his argument on nukes rather than just kick him
PS your appeal to the authority if the electorate is the aame electorate who just voted Brezit.
I never knew you so admired their judgments on complicated matters
I also hate people who campaign for peace and dont like weapons of mass destruction
Or you could be less emotive, and hysterical, (not to mention less 80's) and use the phrase that he's actually advocating...
Unilateral Nuclear Disarmament. Which is something quite different, and prefectly demonstrates how hopelessly naive his political judgement is.
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WHOOSH! Back to the 80's we go! And as we've said before.... those who don't learn by history, are doomed to repeat it
Defeat his argument on nukes rather than just kick him
Good morning electorate.
I presently have in my hand a cricket bat with some nails through the end of it.
Around us are lots of other people also holding cricket bats with nails through the end of them. Some of them are proper mad, nasty bastards, and they don't like us very much
There are also some even nastier bastards, who are frankly psychotic, proper nutjobs, presently figuring out how to get the nails through the end of their cricket bats.
What I am proposing is that we ditch our cricket bat with nails through the end of it, and rely instead on the goodwill of the proper nasty, mad bastards, who don't like us very much, to not use their cricket bats with nails through the end of them.
I'm sure it'll all be fine
Vote for me! Then lets all have a nice sing song 😀
Binners - I thought Corbyn's policy was to build the submarines in order to retain the jobs, but not actually put any nukes in them?
Which to me seems very odd.
I see that Thangam Debonnaire has reported receiving death threats from a Bristol University student who told her to 'get in the sea'. Presumably the student plans on drowning her.
Binners - I thought Corbyn's policy was to build the submarines in order to retain the jobs, but not actually put any nukes in them?
So far from not learning from the 80's, when everyone thought the labour parties policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament was insane, he's had a good think about how how he could make it even more bonkers?
And he's played a blinder!
Spending billions on building the delivery sytem, but having nothing to deliver from it, and therefore rendering them complete white elephants with an absolutely ****ing enormous price tag hanging off them.
Genius!!!
No wonder Dave dropped the Trident debate in as his parting gift. I'm sure he'll be sat back laughing his tits off watching this farce!
Binners - I thought Corbyn's policy was to build the submarines in order to retain the jobs, but not actually put any nukes in them?
It is. He's a political genius.
Indeed binners, Corbyn's position on defence is a mass vote loser. He has given MPs a free vote I imagine fully in the knowledge that applying the whip is pointless as most Labour MPs will ignore him and it. The subs without weapons is comedy gold.
He couldn't whip - because the whip would have to be for party policy which is 'for'. He's rebelling himself. What's weird is that Emily Thornberry is abstaining!
I think the subs-no bombs line was to appease the union who weren't going to back him because of jobs, hopefully by now he's either had time to assure them that jobs would be found, got the backing of the union regardless, or decided it was a silly thing to do.
Bizarre situation when the leader is voting against party policy.
Malcolm Tucker has this one summed up:
"Jesus Christ, see you… You're a ****ing omnishambles, that's what you are. You're like that coffee machine, you know: from bean to cup, you **** up."
[s]@ Binners How many nations have used nukes? How many have them? Have all the other non nuclear nations been nuked ? Given this how can you argue it sonly our "cricket bat" that stops us being nukes/ [/s]
ah **** it jamby agrees with you ...go away and think about that
its worth noting that attitudes to nukes is about the same as attitudes to the EU its a pretty even 50/50 split unless you get all your news from the RW media.
ah **** it jamby agrees with you ...go away and think about that
Cats are lying down with dogs, it truly is the end of days.
As ridiculous political fudges go though, the multi-billion subs without nukes has to win some kind of prize.
Hell, that's probably 350 million a week or something we could be spending on the NHS.
its worth noting that attitudes to nukes is about the same as attitudes to the EU its a pretty even 50/50 split unless you get all your news from the RW media.
once again, I'll correct your language, as you're being deliberately disingenuous and emotive.
If you went out in the street and asked the public if they supported UNILATERAL NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT - which is what Jezza is advocating - you'd get 50% support? Seriously? Is that what you're saying?
Well... all he needs to do is get the 50% of the population that supports this policy to vote for it at the next election and we can hand him the keys to number 10
Binners, you seem to have degenerated into a very low grade troll on this issue, which it has to be said is somewhat disappointing
I thought Corbyn's policy was to build the submarines in order to retain the jobs, but not actually put any nukes in them?Which to me seems very odd.
No odder than building the submarines, paying for the missiles, and clearly never having any reason or wish to use them.. It's even less odd than implicitly accepting that last position, while attacking the former.
Binners, you seem to have degenerated into a very low grade troll on this issue
Why do you say that? It was on the front page of the Guardian this morning, and as I read it 3 letters crystalised in my mind...
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So I thought I'd come and ask his disciples what they thought? And so far, so predictable. I'm sure Ernie will be along in a minute to quote a post I put up 12 months ago which proves that Jezza is doing an absolutely fantastic job, and is coasting towards a landslide at the next election on a platform of unilateral nuclear disarmament, while still spending all the money on building the subs. All seems a bit.... We will defend your inalienable right to have babies.....
If we've got these empty subs maybe we could have a lottery. The weekly winner gets them for the weekend.
That might be the electoral gold he's looking for.
Why do you say that?
Because your posts keep proving it to be accurate?
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As ridiculous political fudges go though, the multi-billion subs without nukes has to win some kind of prize.
like having greggs baking all the products and then binning them
I think we can all agree nuclear subs without nukes is a really really pointless thing
It won't stop at subs either. He will disband the military completely
,but in order to compensate resort to cardboard cut outs of tanks/Aircraft placed around the coast.( But don't worry as the cardboard factory will create jobs for folk)
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He will disband the military completely
and the security services, and then the police to be replaced by political commissars (not commissaires!!) 😉
subs without weapons is comedy gold.
#jambafact
Couldn't you try, just once, to write something truthful? Go on. I know you've got it in you!!
I think we can all agree nuclear subs without nukes is a really really pointless thing
Oh undoubtedly. But not really any more pointless than nuclear subs with nukes that you'll never use unless you're already less than four minutes away from being hotter than the surface of the sun yourself.
It won't stop at subs either. He will disband the military completely
And if he did, so what? If Blair had done that instead of fabricating a reason to invade Iraq, then we wouldn't have ISIS.
Who is going to invade the UK should we disband most of our military? Nobody (well, apart from us) has invaded Ireland. Nobody invades Iceland. Why would they want to invade another lump of rock in the North Atlantic?
Nobody invades Iceland.
Well the US and UK kind of did in WW2, to ensure the Germans didn't.
Nobody invades the Rep. of Ireland because the UK happens to be in the way and has interests on the same bit of rock, hence, you'd have to go through the UK to get to them.
Why would they want to invade another lump of rock in the North Atlantic?
ask Putin, the Russians had mapped the UK extensively during the cold war, the mapping is purely military and clearly had input from people who had driven around to assess bridge weights etc
What about pirates? They've been keeping a low profile of late! They're clearly just waiting for their post-Jezza moment! The opportunistic bastards. AAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
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Couldn't you try, just once, to write something truthful? Go on. I know you've got it in you!!
Yawn. Corbyn has turned himself into a joke. Nuclear Subs with no nuclear weapons, is comedy genius.
SNP MP for Faslane will vote to renew Trident
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ask Putin, the Russians had mapped the UK extensively during the cold war, the mapping is purely military and clearly had input from people who had driven around to assess bridge weights etc
And you honestly think they'd actually do it?
Frankly I'd prefer lower taxes, better health, better education, and better infrastructure.
But if you'd rather piss money up a wall, then I suppose you're entitled to your opinion.
Hypotheticals aside, does anyone honestly think the UK is under threat of invasion if we had a smaller military and no trident? If so, on what sort of timescale, and who by? And... why?
yawn
Facts. So boring.
Oh undoubtedly. But not really any more pointless than nuclear subs with nukes that you'll never use unless you're already less than four minutes away from being hotter than the surface of the sun yourself.
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congratulations, you have sucessfully proven that you don't understand the concept of a [u]second strike[/u] continuous at sea deterrent
Hypotheticals aside, does anyone honestly think the UK is under threat of invasion
I'd rather not risk it....
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Hmm.. those leadership testimonials posted by CaptJon are pretty damning.
Any Corbyn supporters care to comment?
congratulations, you have sucessfully proven that you don't understand the concept of a second strike continuous at sea deterrent
No, really I haven't. Tell me the point of nuking another country after you've been nuked? What happens if the country you're supposed to be deterring either doesn't care, or assumes it's a bluff? And to be committing a first strike, they'd have to be pretty unhinged, so not sure how your logic works here.
No, really I haven't. Tell me the point of nuking another country after you've been nuked?
Really you haven't. You don't need to nuke them back because they daren't nuke you first.
This really isn't that hard.
Facts. So boring
Feel free to quote my specific post today on this thread which is factually inocrrect.
Owen Jones on Sky earlier. "I was a member of CND is my teens but I have long since grown up"
Facts. So boring
No place for such things in the land of the BS
