A big thank you to the Labour MPs for giving me the biggest laugh of today. Karaoke at the Labour Christmas Party
Like a Virgin (reference to Virgin trains sat on the floor shambkes)
Things can only get better (accompanied by pro Blair chants)
and the best ...
Back in the USSR
At this point Corbyn, McDonnell and Chakrabati got up and left 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Mike Gapes MP tweeted: "Jeremy and co left after I sang Back In The USSR and everyone sang Things Can Only Get Better" after the Christmas party last Tuesday.
Absolutely brilliant !
[url= https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/17/unite-leader-under-attack-puppet-master-jeremy-corbyn ]It seems even union leaders are tiring of the bonkers, retro-tactic 70's lefty comedy[/url]
At this point Corbyn, McDonnell and Chakrabati got up and left
Shame they didn't hang around for Its My Party and I'll Cry If I Want To.
did that flounce by Corbyn really happen?
If you hated, and were hated by, just about everyone at your workplace, but obliged to show your face at the office party, I imagine you'd have a token pint then bugger off as soon as possible to enjoy the rest of your evening somewhere else.
did that flounce by Corbyn really happen?
Maybe, maybe not. Different reports
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/18/jeremy-corbyn-walked-labour-christmas-party-mps-sang-tony-blairs/ ]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/18/jeremy-corbyn-walked-labour-christmas-party-mps-sang-tony-blairs/[/url]
Claims that it did and didn't happen. Interesting that Jeremy had a very full calendar that night, when the opposite was reported the other day.
[i]Like a virgin
Seated for the very first tiiime[/i]
did that flounce by Corbyn really happen?
Who knows? What I do know is that I would give no credence to anything the Mail says about him. This is the paper that claimed he was "dancing" on the way to the Cenotaph:
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In fact, they cropped the picture, and he was actually talking to a war veteran:
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Like a virgin
Seated for the very first tiiime
🙂
Who knows? What I do know is that I would give no credence to anything the Mail says about him. This is the paper that claimed he was "dancing" on the way to the Cenotaph:
IIRC that was the Sun online.
IIRC that was the Sun online.
Ta Ransos, both. W@nkers.
[url= http://newsthump.com/2016/12/19/jeremy-corbyn-given-bottle-of-whisky-and-a-loaded-revolver-in-secret-santa/ ]Labour has had its Secret Santa[/url]
🙂
chatting to the FiL last night, who is a staunch lefty, lifelong Labour voter, (and I suspect was once a member of the communist party). He also looks like Jeremy Corbyn.
"What do make of Corbyn at the moment then?"
*sigh*. "Well, I'm still waiting...."
Ed Milliband still getting air time I see 😆
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/19/ed-miliband-blowing-his-nose-nbc-nightly-news-former-labour-leader-flu-vaccination ]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/19/ed-miliband-blowing-his-nose-nbc-nightly-news-former-labour-leader-flu-vaccination[/url]
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Sending a gun to Corbyn is not in good taste given Jo Cox's murder
Ed Milliband still getting air time I see
And people said he was good for nothing!
Sending a gun to Corbyn is not in good taste given Jo Cox's murder
So is newsthump any worse or better than the tory press who just make stupid stuff up?
Indded. Huffingpost front page says "Nuclear Option" (clever that)
Feb by election, narrow Labour win to Tories in a constituency which voted Leave. Very tricky.
My 2 cents is he can't be bothered, no chance of anything except being in opposition in 2020 and a good chance he'd be deselected or lose the seat anyway. The seat looks like won which needs a moderate and not a Momentum Corbyista if you want to win it.
I expect he won't be the last labour MP to think that it really isn't worth the mither with the present irrelevant gang of Islington looney tunes at the controls.
That seat is already as good as gone. As he well knows. Hence deploying the ejector seat. Along with swathes of other formally nailed-on Labour constituencies throughout the north, whenever the electorate is next asked their opinion.
Anyway [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/corbyns-christmas-lunch-to-be-his-usual-thin-soup-plus-half-a-potato-20151221104916 ]Merry Corbyn Christmas [/url]
😀
Again the northern heartlands of Labour thank you for your sterling effort in maintaining the labour vote
Your constant reference to him as Islington based is of course a great hammer blow to redress the drift away for the northern labour voters
Thanks for your efforts Bin bins
FFS you sound like a DM headline writer
th mash article is as trite and predictable and lacking in humour as your posts so no doubt you admire it
It will be interesting to see where the Labour votes go though. I take it no one expects them to retain this seat?
You think I''m wrong then? Think the socialist revolution is going to start in Whitehaven?
Tell you what JY, put your money where your mouth is. I'll have you fifty quid on that constituency being lost by labour at the upcoming by-election? A Labour Party losing a northern seat, mid-term, to a sitting Tory government? Imagine that?
But it's going to happen.
You game for that then? I''ll happily make it a hundred if you like? To be paid in cash or Greggs gift vouchers! 😀
Greggs gift vouchers
The card is rechargeable I think 🙂
Cheers Jammers. I'll nip into the purveyors of pastry-based goodness with my vegan chum, once the Maybot, somewhat unbelievably increases her majority.
We doing fifty or a hundred JY?
Oh... just one thing.... you know who the biggest employer in the constituency is, right? Clue: the somewhat smarter sitting MP has just jumped ship to go and work for them. It literally fuels and powers the local economy?
How do you think Mr beardy, lefty CND is going to play out there? I doubt the Tories will even bother campaigning. It's already in the bag
Can't think why MP's want to leave, check out the name checks they get at the JC4PM Christmas Party
http://order-order.com/2016/12/22/bastards-chuka-stella-and-jess-slammed-at-corbyn-christmas-party/
WHilst I admire your ability to ignore all I said and rant about something else I was rather hoping that you might engage in a grown up debate
TBH [ and thanks for saying they will definitely loose as your rallying cry to the labour voters BTW] I was just wondering if you accepted that died in the wool lefties like you ranting like a right winger and using their tropes to make their points was actually hindering any chances that labour have of success.
Do you not think that maybe... just maybe... it's just the way I express my frustration at watching this bumbling clueless *-wit drag the party I've voted for all my life l, and which I firmly believe to be the cornerstone of British social justice, to irrelevance, and the inevitable day of electoralreckoning that beckons?
He's going to completely destroy the Labour Party and deliver permanent Tory rule
Angry at the *ing useless *ing clueless beardy lefty *? In case you hadn't noticed I am absolutely *ing apoplectic at him and all the stupid, gullible, naive, hard-of-thinking, virtue-signalling, naval-gazing, self-absorbed, totally detached from *ing reality ****s who have brought this lunacy about in the first place!
Hey.... let's all vote for Jeremy, yah, cos he's like so principled, n stuff
Yeah, right.... do me favour... **** off!
So.... we doing fifty or a hundred comrade?
And blaming the Daily Mail? FFS! That idiot writes their headlines for them. He's the gift that just keeps on giving. And he's too ****ing clueless to even see it. John Reed just has
So.... Fifty or a hundred?
naval-gazing
Hello, sailor.
It's Christmas so it's good to have lots of twinkly stars.
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It'll be interesting to see who Labour put forward. One of Corbyns anti-nuclear acolytes won't play well...
I'd like to see a resurgent lib dem vote just to show the rest of the country we're not all half-witted brexiteers in the North.
Unfortunately I think Binners is right - we'll end up with a tory or worse yet, UKIP.
It'll be interesting to see who Labour put forward. One of Corbyns anti-nuclear acolytes won't play well...
Yes it will be interesting, a Leave constituency where the MP has returned to his ex employer the local Nuclear plant. Hard fo imagine a less Corbynista constituency. In fact I would not be surprised if he was basically asked to stay away from the by-election.
Tories to win it, UKIP may even knick second although they are quite a way back.
More from the Corbyn fan club
To cheers from the audience, he said: "I see that Jamie Reed has resigned as Labour MP. Can’t say I mind that. But he’s resigned to go and work for Sellafield nuclear facility, telling you all why nuclear power is such a good idea."Now what I find objectionable is not that he should resign, but that he thinks that to go from public service to self-serving, representing the nuclear industry is in any way compatible with being on the radical side of politics in this country, because it’s not."
He added: "Think what it means that somebody who only yesterday was representing a core working class constituency in this country thinks that that’s a good job to go and take. Now that’s why there needs to be a complete transformation of the Labour movement in this country, and why Jeremy Corbyn and the principles that he represents, not least the question of green energy, is the right person to be the head of the Labour movement in this country."
The cluelessness truly knows no bounds
I think Jezza is looking for an epitaph to truly eclipse the Ed Stone.
Looks like he will have many many opportunities to do so as everyone else with anything between their ears goes for the Jamie Reed option
JY - fifty or a hundred? You can pay it in Greggs vouchers. In the ridiculously unlikely chance of you winning we could do Bolivian organic tofu? 😀
Indeed @big_n_daft, I mean there are no working class people actually working at Sellafield.
i dont bet and i fail to see what a by election result has to do with my points re your outbursts
Labour may well lose and you will have played your part
It would also be a tragedy if i lost and your fine figure was ruined by a poor diet
PS i would want shampoo 😉
The following comes from a Huffington Post piece on the EU (link in that thread)
.Professor Matthew Goodwin says that Brexit has exposed a deep and widening divide in the Labour Party.
It faces tensions between its working-class, struggling, northern, eurosceptic and anti-immigration seats - where 70% of Labour seats voted Brexit - and its more middle class, financially secure, southern, pro-EU and cosmopolitan constituencies.
Goodwin also sets out the huge risks to Labour, pointing out that unless it dramatically reversed its situation in Scotland, to stand any chance of winning a majority at the next General Election it would need a poll lead of at least 12.5 percentage points.
“To put this challenge in perspective, in late 2016 Labour is typically 12-16 points behind the incumbent Conservative Party, which since the referendum has enjoyed strong poll leads. The prospect of a Labour majority at the next election is therefore very slim. Additional pressures have also started to bear down on the Labour Party - far more than at any other time in its history.
“Were a General Election held tomorrow, forecasts suggest that Theresa May would be handed a much larger parliamentary majority, perhaps of more than 100. Labour, meanwhile, could be reduced to its lowest number of seats since the 1930s.”
The only way for Labour to proceed with any credibility, is to put in a proper left-wing candidate and go in with everything they've got.
Mobilise the full door-to-door forces and try and win it on current Labour pledges.
It'll either win or fail, but at least it wont be another dire wishy-washy halfway-house like we've had with the London Mayor race.
t'll either win or fail, but at least it wont be another dire wishy-washy halfway-house like we've had with the London Mayor race.
Who won that, I cant recall?
He's going to completely destroy the Labour Party and deliver permanent Tory rule
Do you really lay all the blame at Corbyn's door? He's a scapegoat for the cluelessness of those who went before him. In fact I'd go as far as saying that the majority of labour MPs are actually quite glad about the current situation as it gives them a convenient excuse to cover up their own incompetence.
Binners top photo post - Twinkly Star Naval Gazing 🙂 (only just got it)
He's a scapegoat for the cluelessness of those who went before him.
Like Blair and Brown who delivered Labour Governments from 1997 till 2010
"He's a scapegoat for the cluelessness of those who went before him."
Cluelessness?
Labour a been near enough right on the money for decades. It was so close in 2010 that the Tories won no outright majority and Cams 2015 majority was tiny.
Before that they won 3 in a row.
^^ this and had Brown managed the fallout from 2007/8 better (and shown a bit more personality, something he only did after he lost) they would have won in 2010 IMO
Hang on Gordi single-handedly saved the world during the GFC....what more could he have done?
Millibean managed to run the Tories pretty close, and Camerons majority was paper thin. He didn't even think he could win. Hence his gift of the referendum he never for a second thought he'd have to deliver.
Corbyns 6th form Socialist Project is presently polling 16 points behind the Tory party. People say that polling isn't actually accurate, and I agree. I think that in reality the situation for the Labour Party is far far worse than that. Those polls are hopelessly optimistic for the useless beardy communist.
If there were an election tomorrow the party would be completely decimated. If I can find a bookie who'll take my money, I'm having a serious punt on the Labour Party being reduced to under 100 seats! as what happened in Scotland last time takes hold of the rest of the Uk, and nailed on Labour seats go to the Tory's and even worse UKIP! I know lifelong Labour Party members who've left in disgust and say they simply can't support this bunch of leftie clowns. Two words... Dianne Abbott
So spare me the crap about 'biggest membership of any party in Europe'! By the only measure that counts in a democracy - getting elected - Corbyn has been, and will be an absolute unmitigated disaster. He's about to bring about the end of the Labour Party as a political force. An amazing achievement, given the timescale he's had
You have done sterling work to protect the labour party binners and lefties everywhere thank you for you unswerving efforts on behalf of the party
The reality is he won the election again like everyone knew he would
Until such time as the labour MPs and "supporters" can accept what the membership want then we will have this massive schism]]I am sorry your brand of labour is not as popular with the party as you wish but insulting them and predicting doom is not the best recipe for the parties long term prospects.
MPs doing their best to ruin the party is a complete recipe for disaster, to then blame corbyn for this is the height of cheek
I did not think much of Milliband either but i did not spend my time ranting about him as he was still better than the alternative
Well I do apologise for not wanting to see the end of the Labour Party, and the permanent Tory/UKIP rule that will then deliver. But apparently that's all a price worth paying for the Momentum 6th formers to carry on with their hopelessly self-indulgent virtue-signalling
Dont worry binns, the history of the labour party combines a remarkable ability to win new members and then lose them very quickly. As in many aspects of their current difficulties, too few remember the lessons of history - not least why they lost the last election!
Hang on Gordi single-handedly saved the world during the GFC....what more could he have done?
Before that he had "ended Boom and Bust"
Until such time as the labour MPs and "supporters" can accept what the membership want then we will have this massive schism]]I am sorry your brand of labour is not as popular with the party as you wish but insulting them and predicting doom is not the best recipe for the parties long term prospects.
MPs doing their best to ruin the party is a complete recipe for disaster, to then blame corbyn for this is the height of cheek
and the takeover is complete, Militant could only dream of such success
predicting its demise constantly and attacking it repeatedly is of course the method by which anyone demonstrates this desire and of course its all their fault you act like this.I do apologise for not wanting to see the end of the Labour Party
TBH the usual RW on here are more balanced and less shitty than you on this point
I'm not attacking the Labour Party. I'm attacking the clueless muppet who's presently masquerading as its leader, his half-witted cabal, and the hopelessly naive, self-indulgent idiots propping him up.
I forgot though.... it's verboten to criticise the glorious leader, isn't it? That way lies bricks through windows and tweeted death threats from those cuddly lefties.
And the right wingers on here won't attack him for obvious reasons. He's all their birthdays and Christmas's come at once
Feel free to keep denying reality and shooting the messenger though. Perish the thought that anyone singing the red flag might have to deal with the world as it is, as opposed to how they'd like it to be, in their discussions in the common room
https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/720289067200618496
You couldn't make it up, or perhaps he did.....
Q: Evidence ?
A: The quote is from Corbyn's spokesmen
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so that would be the labour party members who just voted overwhelmingly for him again that you are not criticising then and not attacking with these words of diplomacy that even trump would baulk at:roll:'m not attacking the Labour Party. I'm attacking the clueless muppet who's presently masquerading as its leader, his half-witted cabal, and the hopelessly naive, self-indulgent idiots propping him up.
I see i have no method of reaching past your hyperbole so i shall try no further
singing the red flag
Today's festive Trivia, a classic French Christmas Song (I only learnt about it this year), Constantin Rossi from 1946. My Beautiful Christmas Tree. I wonder who was first ? EDIT: Mrs B has googled it, originally German O Tannenbaum from 1550, Red Flag 1889, Maryland State song from 1939
I see i have no method of reaching past your hyperbole
Oh the ironing
I shall try no further
Now that would be the perfect Christmas Present 🙂
Come on JY.... give us a hug comrade
Happy to you lovable wee scamp you
I am glad you have someone else to google for you, must be a FT job, but how did you not realise the tune was the same 😯
Like Blair and Brown who delivered Labour Governments from 1997 till 2010
Or you could easily say that Blair and Brown haemorrhaged votes for 20 years after John Smith (and Neil Kinnock before him) made them electable. It was only the fact that the tories were in such disarray that kept them in power. Despite that, their hubris lead them to believe in the invincibility of their own rhetoric, when all the while they couldn't see that they were eroding the base which kept them in power. The present problem were not caused by Corbyn to say otherwise is just silly. He may well be amplifying them, and I agree that it will end in tears, but labour MPs should not be under any illusions as to the causes of the current problems. They last won an election in 2005. That's quite a while ago now.
Or you could easily say that Blair and Brown haemorrhaged votes for 20 years after John Smith (and Neil Kinnock before him) made them electable
You could say that
But it would be untrue
Smith took over in July 92, from that point on he had a slight lead in the voting intention polls (+4 to +6%) until Black Wednesday in September, when Labour shot to +10% and then averaged out at +16 to +18%. The Highest polling lead Labour had under Smiths lead was +22% in March '94, a few weeks before his death
The first poll with Blair as leader saw him come in with a +33% voting intention, rising over the course of that year to +39% and maintaining a high twenties lead most of the way through to the election in 97, including through clause iv reform. In fact, during the two and a half years of Blairs leadership prior to the election, the voting intention poll only dropped to below +22% (John Smiths highest lead) six times, topping T an incredible +39% and heading into the actual '97 election with a lead of +18, a lead that Smith had only ever achieved himself in the weeks before he died.
Post '97 election, Labour maintained this +22% and above (again, higher than John Smiths biggest lead) unblemished for another two years, only losing their overall lead for a few weeks post 9/11 before returning to polling in the high teens and twenties once again.
So, the facts tell us that rather than haemorrhaging votes, Blair continued to increase and maintain labours lead far beyond the best that Smith ever achieved.
But let's not have the pesky facts getting in the way of the good old anti-Blair leftie rhetoric, eh?
And when did the left wing of the party last win an election?They last won an election in 2005. That's quite a while ago now.
Dire French movie on TV now (watched the excellent Lady in the Van earlier) so .....
I remember John Smith, he was certainly a special politician. However we will never know what he might have achieved at an election. Kinnock laid the foundations for Blair by getting rid of the militant left. I wonder who will do that now and when ?
but labour MPs should not be under any illusions as to the causes of the current problems. They last won an election in 2005. That's quite a while ago now.
Current problems, ie today totally due to Corbyn being the leader. Most of the 2005 winning MPs opposed Corbyn as they know he is electoral poison. Increasingly the Labour Party is being taken over by peope who have never won an election and never will.
When Labour were 39% up in the polls under Blair were Tories saying that the Tory party was doomed forever? Genuine question I was not really interested in politics at the time.
Has Jerremy Corbyn been to Liverpool recently? Also silver shadow rebrand is a nice touch.
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/21/silver-shadow-hunted-police-surfing-train-roof-100mph/ ]train surfer [/url]
David Milliband isn't going to be back. From the Telegrapgh
David Miliband, the former Labour MP who is now president of the US-based International Rescue Committee, receives £530,922. His charity has been given £3.6m in British aid.
I was surprised to see that this has now reached 332 pages.
I don't like the bloke, I can never see, or wish to see him as a leader of this country.
However, I cannot understand why after all of the 332 pages, people are still supporting or hating the bloke. Just make your point and then move on.
Are you new to this internet thing? 😀
Current problems, ie today totally due to Corbyn being the leader.
Yes, of course. The fact that much of the northern base have either stopped voting or defected to UKIP is entirely the fault of Jeremy Corbyn, and not Ed Miliband, Yvette Cooper, Ed Balls, Chukka Umunna, Peter Mandelson, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown etc..
Corbyn is the problem in as much that the membership voted for him twice. Why did they do that though? Are we supposed to believe it was his sparkling wit and charisma? Or was it because of the mistakes of his predecessors?
For lots of people immigration fears trump every other political issue by some margin ( not well informed stw'ers obviously).
So whilst Labour, Lib Dems, Green or any party arent making appealing noises on that subject they haven't a chance.
I blame the recent hipster fashion for beards
"For lots of people immigration fears trump every other political issue by some margin ( not well informed stw'ers obviously).
So whilst Labour, Lib Dems, Green or any party arent making appealing noises on that subject they haven't a chance."
I've no idea if this is right or wrong but Ed Balls has taken your view. He's done Strictly and on TW he was forthright about immigration.
@dazh because the infiltrators want to turn the Labour party into a sort of AWL / SWP, thats a win for them as they then have some MPs whereas now they have zero. The Northern powerhouse voted Labour in 2015, it was the swing constituencies which Labour lost plus being wiped out in Scotland. My point about Corbyn is that Labour are now in far worse shape and going backwards at an increasing rate. Labour lost in 2015 as they had no economic credibility not least as people suspected they where more left wing than they perhaps really where.
@Todd welcome, have you seen the EU thread 🙂 ?
For lots of people immigration fears trump every other political issue by some margin
Exactly. People switching from Labour to UKIP clearly never understood what the Labour party represents. If they did the last thing they would do is switch to the polar opposite of UKIP.
The immigration issue is just the most visible way in which the now totally London-centric Labour Party has totally lost touch with the concerns of its core northern voters in their post-industrial (former) heartlands, in favour of the issues that tend to trouble the metropolitan contributors to the Guardian letters page.
It's been going on for a lot longer than Corbyn, but he, and the likes of Dianne Abbot, are the living embodiment of this disconnection. A lot of the time it feels like they're telling working class voters off, or pitying the poor thickos, for not sharing they're more enlightened cosmopolitan opinions. A real vote winner!
And what whould you have them do Binners? Out UKIP UKIP? At least Corbyn will say why immigration is good rather than just avoid talking about it.
Tory party happy to play on immigration fears of course.
Tory party happy to [s]play on immigration fears of course[/s] recognise a real concern for voters.
FIFY. Labour recognised Immigration as an issue for the 2015 GE as seen by the mug. I have no doubt local activists in the North where telling the Party that is was a real issue in their communities. Abbott etc shut down the debate. Labour could come up with a credible immigration policy inc supporting UK workers giving them priority for jobs, improving wages, reducing entitlement to benefits for non-UK citizens for a period etc
The issue at the next by-election won't be immigration. It will be the fact that it's taking place where by far the biggest employer is the nuclear industry, at Sellafield, then there's the shipyards at Barrow down the coast. The area is totally dependent on those for high skill, high pay jobs
How do you think mr Islington leftie CND is going to play there.? They'be absolutely no chance! He's about to lose, heavily, a constituency that's been labour since the1930's!