Jeremy Corbyn

I learned from my Momentum meeting that they now need to be rightfully concerned about Plan H - have him killed, by staging an accident while he's cycling to work.

You heard it first here comrades. The Glorious Leader needs our protection from the dark forces which threaten his life

I learned from my Momentum meeting that they now need to be rightfully concerned about Plan H - have him killed, by staging an accident while he's cycling to work.

So you see there isn't much evidence that Corby doesn't want to be leader of the party.

I always get the impression that he never wanted the job in the first place. But since he accidentally got elected (oops!), John McDonnell has been telling him that he's being the *ing leader whether he *ing well likes it or not!!! And its not open to *ing discussion!! Now sit down in that *ing corridor, look into this *ing camera and *ing well say this!!!!

Does plan G involve an ice pick ?

Ernie that is very nice detail on events post the unexpected win, Thank you. Not really relevant to the situation pre the win, though is it.

didn't = past tense
doesn't = present tense

Who mentioned "loser"? He's on a winning streak so far (even got his way on Europe 😉 ) Plenty of time for the big one.

But sssh with all that stuff. It's making the Labour Party look rather incompetent.

allthepies - Member

Does plan G involve an ice pick ?

Presumably, this year's conference is all round to Jeremy's then?

A historical first. No conference because Jeremy and his pals have managed to bugger up a perfectly good arrangement that always worked before.

Forward to the next triumph, Comrades!!

Binners that's my impression of John McDonnell controlling things as well. Really Corbyn is little more than a puppet being played.

Presumably, this year's conference is all round to Jeremy's then?

Or go halfs with the Lib Dems?

FFS how is it 'Jeremy and his pals?'

The NEC (who are so pro-Corbyn they retrospectively enforced a cut off date beyond which new members are barred from voting in the leadership election) voted last year to boycott G4S.

The GMB who support Owen Smith have said they'll picket if the alternative company is used.

This comrade shit is getting incredibly fatuous too.

Paging Jambalaya...

Derek Grintz who you've used 2 or 3 times as an example of momentums racism is NOT a real person. You must have missed the last time I said that on this thread which is fair enough but if you post anything from him again I'll send him round your house.

This [s]comrade shit[/s] entire topic is getting incredibly fatuous too

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I always get the impression that he never wanted the job in the first place. But since he accidentally got elected (oops!), John McDonnell has been telling him that he's being the *ing leader whether he *ing well likes it or not!!!

Pretty much on the money I think. I mate of mine in the party told me it's pretty much common knowledge among those with their ear to the ground that he never wanted it, and doesn't really want to be PM. This is why I don't understand the impatience of the PLP as I'm convinced he would have stepped aside before the next election anyway.

Maybe his controllers won't let him step aside.

It's a good point though as he's lost his cool a few times with jurno's and we have nothing like the pressure of GE. I can't actually see him coping come GE time.

[quote=Lifer ]FFS how is it 'Jeremy and his pals?'
The NEC (who are so pro-Corbyn they retrospectively enforced a cut off date beyond which new members are barred from voting in the leadership election) voted last year to boycott G4S.
The GMB who support Owen Smith have said they'll picket if the alternative company is used.
This comrade shit is getting incredibly fatuous too.

THIS
hy the obsession with your RW of making shit up ?

there are so some many own goals being handed to you by Labour why do you still have to ruin it all by talking bollocks and making up the causes?

Its not required and only makes you look like a blatant purveyor of untruths.

You must have missed the last time I said that on this thread

He is not limited by such concerns

Looks like Corbyn's militia got to the instigator of the ugly Virgin trains smear

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I thought Jeremy's attempt at scathing sarcasm ("Tax exile on holiday...") was particularly pathetic, even from him.

Owner defends his company from accusations likely to be interpreted as detrimental to future sales, shockah.

I got the impression that Jez feels he's in some way superior to Branson. Can't imagine why. He's the result of a big gob and an incredible stroke of luck, rather than anything achieved with effort and ambition.

I thought Jeremy's attempt at scathing sarcasm ("Tax exile on holiday...") was particularly pathetic, even from him.

Oh, it was supposed to be a joke?

I hadn't realised.

Maybe you can help me understand woppit, what is the motivation for stockpiling billions of quid?

Don't get me wrong, I admire the [i]drive[/i] of someone that slaves their guts out half their life to accrue vast wealth (and well done you woppit for admiring his efforts) but isn't collecting money as mental as collecting cats, or matchboxes or bottles of your own urine in the back bedroom?

What's the attraction and why do you believe that we should worship such people as heroes?

That's a hell of a weird religion you're touting there 😯

"The only way out of poverty for any society, is jobs."

Defending his company by (potentially) breaching data protection rules. Oops.

... and by "jobs", I don't mean "state-provided-work".

Not the same thing...

G4S have provided security to the Labour Party annul conference for the best part of 20 years. They actually turned down the work this year because of the abuse dished out to their employees at the conference last year - as well as verbal abuse the staff were repeatedly spat at by the Momentum [s] ambassadors for the new kind of friendly respectful politics [/s] sixth formers

The only way out of poverty for any society, is jobs.

well ok... [i]sort[/i] of (ish)

but isn't poverty [i]caused[/i] by people stockpiling vast sums of money for themselves?

Do you think that maybe you've based your religion on the story of the snake eating it's own tail?
What about the ants, and the whales and the birds and the zebras? Are they supposed to just sit around watching this obscene phenomenon in horror, rubbing the snake's belly so that they may be granted the pleasure of eating a morsel of it's shit?

The LoLabour farce continues!

http://teamrock.com/news/2016-08-26/labour-party-sees-red-over-foo-fighters-facebook-post

Mr Woppit - Member

I thought Jeremy's attempt at scathing sarcasm ("Tax exile on holiday...") was particularly pathetic, even from him.

You didn't support something which Jeremy Corbyn said ? Really ?

Well if it happens again be sure to tell us .... won't you ?

You never know I might change my mind about Corbyn if you keep telling me how pathetic you think he is.

@just65minutes We have covered this complete lie with direct quotes from g4s

Its a lie today as it was yesterday

just5minutes - Member
G4S have provided security to the Labour Party annul conference for the best part of 20 years. They actually turned down the work this year because of the abuse dished out to their employees at the conference last year - as well as verbal abuse the staff were repeatedly spat at by the Momentum ambassadors for the new kind of friendly respectful politics sixth formers

Source?

[b]Eric Alexander, managing director for G4S events[/b], said the company would usually start planning for such a large and complex event up to a year in advance. “Safety for delegates and our staff is our priority and at this late stage and with our teams committed elsewhere, we are not in a position to step in and provide security for the conference,” he said.

“Security officers need to be cleared and accredited to work, detailed risk assessments made, safety and security plans with the Home Office and local police forces drawn up and supporting logistics, such as security equipment and staff accommodation, put in place

“Our team of more than 100 security staff has secured the Labour party’s annual conference for over 20 years and the feedback from officials and the police on our work last year, as in the past, was extremely positive. [b]Clearly we were disappointed not to continue such a successful working relationship.”[/b]

The LoLabour farce continues!

Its a lie today as it was yesterday

if they
paint
it on a bus it will
become
the truth

@ctk, hi been away from the computer. Unless someone has developed some sort of Trotskiest spambot that account is maintained by a real person, no ? One who repeatedly threatens others with physcial violence including "round their house". He is absolutely the sort of individual who would inflict abuse on others he felt to be Zionists, you know like G4S security staff. He's also big on conspriacy theories of the sort that has Mossad responsible for 9/11 or numerous other Jihadi terrorist attacks.

Chapeau to Labour today, so far they seem to have managed a whole day without further disaster.

@Lifer I would think any such potential breach was well worth it to expose the lies being pedalled by Corbyn and his cronies. The data protection thing is a lottle bizarre as live webcam is fine, no permission needed. However once stored its an issue.

CaptainFlashheart - Member

The LoLabour farce continues!

http://teamrock.com/news/2016-08-26/labour-party-sees-red-over-foo-fighters-facebook-post

This thread is becoming weird. Flashheart has now posted a link backing Corbyn supporters claim that there is an orchestrated campaign by the Labour establishment against them.

I thought Flashheart was supportive of the campaign by the Labour elite against Corbyn ? Has he switched sides ? What's going on ?

CaptainFlashheart - Member

The LoLabour farce continues!

http://teamrock.com/news/2016-08-26/labour-party-sees-red-over-foo-fighters-facebook-post

CFH I can't understand why if you where joining Labour you'd give them your social media accounts. Easiest just to say none, that would have been my approach 😉

Friday lunchtime Bellini's again was it Jambas?
I reckon you're only gonna be able to squeeze in a couple more before your spelling goes the way of your content 🙂

Sources close to the company warned that the short notice it was given and previous incidents at the event, including staff being spat at and verbally abused, made it impossible for G4S to accept the offer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/25/labour-left-humiliated-after-g4s-turns-down-last-ditch-plea-to-p/

Name the "sources close to the company".

This thread is becoming weird

just pages
and pages
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made up stuff
and
abuse
even thm has become
part
of the post truth politics
he
recently professed to find
shameful
sic transit

only in someones dreams fred

just5minutes - Member

"Sources close to the company warned that the short notice it was given and previous incidents at the event, including staff being spat at and verbally abused, made it impossible for G4S to accept the offer."

And yet in the same article an actual employee of the company says

"Clearly we were disappointed not to continue such a successful working relationship. Safety for delegates and our staff is our priority and at this late stage and with our teams committed elsewhere, we are not in a position to step in and provide security for the conference."

posted a link backing Corbyn supporters claim that there is an orchestrated campaign by the Labour establishment against them.

Yep, that's exactly why I posted the link. Exactly that.

Have ten Internet Awesomeness Points.

Wow. Who knew a company could do a formal briefing and an off the record one at the same time. Imagine if that ever happened in politics....

By the way the spitting isn't just confined to the Labour conference - even Labour's own members have been abused and spat at - see below article for quote from the secretary of Tottenham Labour Party.

http://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2016/07/12/labour-council-leader-speaks-out-after-takeover-of-brighton-and-hove-party-by-corbyn-supporters/

Presumably Tottenham Labour party are also part of of the conspiracy against Corbyn.

Meanwhile back in the real world - remember 5 September we need to have some semblance of a shadow/mirage cabinet. The Westminster fun and games restart, "ready or not...."

just5minutes - Member
Wow. Who knew a company could do a formal briefing and an off the record one at the same time. Imagine if that ever happened in politics....

By the way the spitting isn't just confined to the Labour conference - even Labour's own members have been abused and spat at - see below article for quote from the secretary of Tottenham Labour Party.

http://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2016/07/12/labour-council-leader-speaks-out-after-takeover-of-brighton-and-hove-party-by-corbyn-supporters/

Presumably Tottenham Labour party are also part of of the conspiracy against Corbyn.

How is abuse of a pro-Corbyn activist 'part of the conspiracy against Corbyn'?

It said: “Two pro-Corbyn activists who travelled from London to a rally hosted by Momentum, the left-wing network of the Labour leader’s supporters, were allegedly branded ‘scum’ and told to ‘get the **** out of Brighton’ by local members.

“Seema Chandwani, the secretary of Tottenham Labour Party, told the Morning Star that she and a colleague had been threatened with violence by two moderates in a pub

Or is your point that there are idiots everywhere?

Wry smile at 'threatened with violence by two moderates' btw

ernie_lynch - Member

Flashheart has now posted a link backing Corbyn supporters claim that there is an orchestrated campaign by the Labour establishment against them.

CaptainFlashheart - Member

Yep, that's exactly why I posted the link. Exactly that.

Have ten Internet Awesomeness Points.

I didn't give any reason at all as to why you posted the link. I simply commented on how it was bizarre that you should post a link which clearly backs claims made by Corbyn supporters.

Lose ten Internet Awesomeness Points for being incapable of reading a post 😆

Lose ten Internet Awesomeness Points for being incapable of reading a post

Blimey its catching!

Anyway back to the "not wanting to win" issue - here's George Eaton writing earlier this year

This is not the only electoral parallel between the two men. In 2015, both achieved remarkable and unanticipated victories. Cameron won a parliamentary majority, an outcome he thought so improbable that he had not prepared a speech. Corbyn became Labour leader but it was a result he originally neither wanted nor expected. [b]“Now we need to make sure I don’t win,”[/b] he had told supporters after he made the ballot.

New (RW !! ) Statesman March 2016 - honestly this biased media!!

Feel free to retract Ernie or tell me, what does this quoting a source tell about me?

teamhurtmore - Member

Feel free to retract Ernie or tell me, what does this quoting a source tell about me?

I'll tell you what it says about you - that you are prepared to dig up any old bollocks in an attempt discredit Corbyn, although you yourself are allegedly "politically neutral" 🙂

As Corbyn's leadership campaign rolled on his support reached unprecedented levels. The sheer amount of leadership campaign rallies he attended is the stuff of legends.

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/sep/11/jeremy-corbyn-final-rally-saturday-labour-leadership-vote-result-video ]Jeremy Corbyn holds 99th rally ahead of Saturday's leadership vote[/url]

I attended one of those rallies, at no time did I hear him tell supporters “Now we need to make sure I don’t win”.

To claim that he tirelessly traveled the country and attended more campaign rallies than probably all the other candidates put to together but wanted to lose is ridiculous.

He might not have the same personal self-serving selfish motivation which someone like Tony Blair has, but that doesn't mean that he is any less motivated.

I'll tell you what it says about you - that you are prepared to dig up any old bollocks in an attempt discredit Corbyn, although you yourself are allegedly "politically neutral"

Ill take that as "damn, pawned again" but the subsequent slalom was masterful. Congrats....

Remember past tense (didn't want to win) and present tense (may have a taste for it now but sadly ill-equipped) are two different things.

But I grant you, its an impressive amount of feeding the faithful especially when you cant a train on the seat to get there. I hope that I have his stamina at that age, or that I remember to book a ticket. Probably the latter

As Corbyn's leadership campaign rolled on his support reached unprecedented levels.

With whom? The people who put the final x in the box in 2020 (or before)?

Are they supposed to just sit around watching this obscene phenomenon in horror, rubbing the snake's belly so that they may be granted the pleasure of eating a morsel of it's shit?

I strongly reccommend therapy.

ernie_lynch - Member
Mr Woppit - Member
I thought Jeremy's attempt at scathing sarcasm ("Tax exile on holiday...") was particularly pathetic, even from him.
You didn't support something which Jeremy Corbyn said ? Really ?
Well if it happens again be sure to tell us .... won't you ?

No problem, old boy. Hope you keep it up telling us how much you like him...

I strongly recommend therapy.

I never had you pegged for a religious zealot woppit!!
Blessed are the shit-eaters.. you keep right on worshipping the yankee dollar and your gods of 'success' 😆

teamhurtmore - Member

But I grant you, its an impressive amount of feeding the faithful ...

What "feeding the faithful" ?

At the start of the leadership campaign there was no 'Corbyn faithful'. Corbyn was a rank outsider : 100-1 at William Hill and 200-1 at Ladbrokes.

All that changed as a result of his relentless campaigning. 100 rallies in a 100 days I believe. Corbyn ended up with the largest mandate of any Labour leader.

Have you really forgotten so soon THM ? It was only a year ago. Or are you deliberately "forgetting" to suit your own political agenda ?

No faithful?? Does that mean that all these new members are not "real people"? Does Binners know?

All those nice pictures that you post suggest that there are plenty of faithful. The ones next to Diane and her mike. It was only a wee whole ago. Or are you deliberately "forgetting"?

Oh dear, yunki. Hardly a rational argument.

Have you been without sleep for a very long time?

teamhurtmore - Member

No faithful?? Does that mean that all these new members are not "real people"? Does Binners know?

It means that Corbyn had no known supporters at the start of his leadership campaign, that is why he was a rank outsider.

Obviously you know that but you want to play the Tory halfwit. Something which you play very well btw.
In fact you play it a bit too convincingly well.

It's almost as if you are indeed a Tory halfwit 🙂

It means that Corbyn had no known supporters at the start of his leadership campaign, that is why he was a rank outsider.

Obviously you know that

Obviously, even a halfwit would know that. The tricky bit is what relevance, if any, this has to any of the debate.

Ernie, you are not on your useful form. Is this all getting stressful?

PURGE THE UNBELIEVER! PURGE HIM!
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(Waits for the inevitable sneeringly superior, and oddly humourless response.)

@ctk, hi been away from the computer. Unless someone has developed some sort of Trotskiest spambot that account is maintained by a real person, no ? One who repeatedly threatens others with physcial violence including "round their house". He is absolutely the sort of individual who would inflict abuse on others he felt to be Zionists, you know like G4S security staff. He's also big on conspriacy theories of the sort that has Mossad responsible for 9/11 or numerous other Jihadi terrorist attacks.

Its a troll account J. Deliberately provocative. I can't believe you thought of a Trotskiest spambot before a troll account.

My view ctk is its a really nasty individual, perhaps hiding behind a pseudonym but a real person, dishing out poisonous abuse and prejudice and sharing their genuinely held beliefs. @gentlerpolitics has page after page of the same stuff from numerous posters. I've watched numerous videos of people dishing out similar abuse.

The Brighton & Hove piece is interesting and sadly so familiar.

TMH this session of Parliament is going to be a disaster from a Labour perspective, their front bench team is so weak they are going to offer nothing in opposition and the SNP will IMO once more press to be recognised as the offical opposition if not just further embarrass them.

Don't get me wrong, I admire the drive of someone that slaves their guts out half their life to accrue vast wealth (and well done you woppit for admiring his efforts) but isn't collecting money as mental as collecting cats, or matchboxes or bottles of your own urine in the back bedroom?

I don't think Branson has a reputation for slaving his guts out. He's a true entrepreneur and innovative thinker, IMO he is not motivated by making money as an end in itself. He is not collecting it or keeping it anywhere other than in ownership of businesses or other assets like property which he gets a utility out of and a lot of which he rents out when he's not around. Anyway in comparison for example to the Zuckerberg's or Gate's of this world he's a part time amateur.

It's not surprising that Corbers has complete contempt for Branson or anyone else who has started a business - despite spending his whole adult life as a professional protester he's got £600k in property, earns £137k a year and has a pension pot already worth £1.6m

Hilariously Corbers doesn't consider himself wealthy though which will come as news to all of the "rich" people who earn less than he does.

Good point well made just5minutes.

Man of the people Richard Branson's modest home :

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Out of touch Jeremy Corbyn's palatial extravaganza :

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Well done for pointing it out.

And using the word "hilariously".

perfect example of equality of opportunity rather than equality of outcome

Two middle class prep school boys with poor exam results, one became a self made billionaire, the other an old man steptoe tribute act.

Oh, I see now. Everybody should own exactly the same amount of spending credits and live lives that are exactly same as each other because somebody having more than someone else is just so unfair...

Out for beers last night with a pal who has historically voted Labour all his life. Loved his assessment of JC... "an unelectable horror show"...

Loved

why?

[quote=Mr Woppit ]Oh, I see now. Everybody should own exactly the same amount of spending credits and live lives that are exactly same as each other because somebody having more than someone else is just so unfair...

I dont know about your moral compass , though i do know you can make up risible straw men when folk suggest wealth should be a little more fairly distributed.
What exactly is it about greater fairness that so angers you and so early in the weekend?

Fairness? Is it "fair" that ingenuity, talent, skill and business acumen should go unrewarded?

Why exactly doesn't Branson deserve to own his own island? He sold records through a magazine FFS, he took hugely risky business decisions that paid off, nobody handed him that success.

Ernie, I thought you were against people posting stuff that might harm Labour's chances and you then post that photo. All it needs is a caption, would you vote for this guy to run a government? Saatchi would be proud of your efforts to discredit poor old Jezza. Some comradeship????

Meanwhile back in the real world - remember 5 September we need to have some semblance of a shadow/mirage cabinet. The Westminster fun and games restart, "ready or not...."

And that's when the amusing car crash stops being amusing - an opposition party which is too busy opposing itself to actually challenge the government is worse than useless.

It depends on how you think wealth should be more fairly distributed and how you do it whilst encouraging the wealth creators to keep creating (and recognising the need for entrepreneurs)rather than upping sticks and going somewhere else - is it to fund genuine equality of opportunity (health, education etc.) or is it just based on envy - the Branson bashers seem to fall in to the latter camp.

Indeed Ben, but at least Angus will be there flying the saltire and providing some opposition.

All it needs is a caption,

BBC deny that Jeremy Corbyns house to be featured in new series of 'life of grime'

or is it just based on envy - the Branson bashers seem to fall in to the latter camp.

Its really hard to do a credible insult to someone who just argued for greater fairness. It even harder to do a credible argument to refute it

Now if you want to explain why greater fairness is a bad thing I am prepared to hear your argument. What is it exactly that is so bad about fairness... dont we all teach our kids to share fairly?

Would it be unfair to take away something that a person had worked very hard for and risked everything for?
There is talk of unfairness or inequality in wealth but where is the line, should it be on the number of bikes in the garage?
How many people does Virgin employ? They all take home money and pay tax. Without people like Branson we would all be worse off.

should it be on the number of bikes in the garage?

And there's the rub.

"He's got two bikes, I haven't got a bike, that's [b]so[/b] unfair!"

Its really hard to do a credible insult to someone who just argued for greater fairness. It even harder to do a credible argument to refute it

It's a bit hard to be lectured about fairness and equality from someone with a £1,500,000+ pension pot funded by the taxpayer.