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I'm confused as to which outrage bus to get on now, it's Europe's fault I'll be bound.
Europe is the new Thatcher?
Be worth while asking a lawyer about it.
To be fair I think Larry David's question was a fair one. A philosophical diversion to be sure but a reasonable question. While the law is absolute there are definitely grey areas in respect to our own social morality.
Without even straying from driving offence you can easily demonstrate this. Compare middle lane hogging to speeding to texting while driving to drink driving.
All of these are strictly breached of the law but only one is really seen a socially unacceptable.
DrP - when did you get the new V5?
If you can clearly show you notified DVLA of the change and the fact they replied issuing a new V5 then the burden moves back to them to prove they issued the NIP correctly.
Pepipoo is still the best place.
What's the docref on the V5?
If it's pre offence the 14 day rule applies, if it's post offence then you've nowhere to go!
[quote=hammyuk ]DrP - when did you get the new V5?
If you can clearly show you notified DVLA of the change and the fact they replied issuing a new V5 then the burden moves back to them to prove they issued the NIP correctly.
Unfortunately not the case I think - it seems if the police made all reasonable attempts to obtain the correct address then the 14 day rule doesn't apply. The DVLA aren't the police - if they're at fault then the police are allowed to be late issuing the NIP.
aracer - depends on when DVLA sent the new V5 and also when they sent out the updated records for the PNC.
The Police will run a PNC check and an index check which will come back with the details held by DVLA on the PNC.
If they haven't done the update then its not the OP's fault.
If DVLA have sent the updated info out in sufficient time for the police to have updated their records then the "all reasonable attempts" falls foul.
Pepipoo is still where the OP needs to go though.
There's at least three serving traffic cops on there who help out.
We've recently been through a similar thing (car registered in my name, wife driving), she mentioned that she thought she'd been caught by a motorcycle cop in a lay-by a couple hundred yards from our house.
Sure enough a few days later I receive the letter, fill out her details and send it back (she was doing 43 in a 30).
The form comes back to her and she chose the option to go to naughty drivers school (£95).
She did the course last week and was surprised that it was mostly old people (probably because it was a weekday afternoon).
BTW My son's a Police Constable and he mentioned the 14 day NIP rule, but it didn't apply in our case.