[Closed] Is this the end of Windows Phone?

I loathe mine. It only gets used as a sat av in the car....

It's loosing out for a reason....

I don't think that's what the article says. No way is Microsoft dropping mobile operating systems, that would be death. They may just drop Nokia but I doubt it as no one else is quite ready to start using windows on their phone yet

I would instantly replace mine,I love it and the newer phones work nicely at a sensible price pointg

The dropping the Nokia brand, for sure.

More likely they would allow Nokia to run Android at the low end I wound have thought unless they have deals with other manufacturers to produce phones for them

As old hands on the forum now I am a massive fan of WinPho but currently cannot recommend it over Android Lollipop which admittedly has stolen an awful lot of the ideas that made WinPho so appealing but has done so rather well.

Coupled with the compete lack of a flagship (the 930 is very nice but lags behind the best Android phones) and I cannot currently recommend it.

I am currently rocking a Z3 compact which is just brilliant and will move back to WinPho one WinPho 10 is properly out and on a decent handset.

http://www.windowscentral.com/microsofts-restructuring-their-phone-business-was-necessary

No bloody wonder it wasn't making money with nearly 10,000 people working on it.

Definitely not. Windows Phone 10 looks awesome and has android and ios support.

I've given up on my windows 8.1 powered 930 until windows 10 comes out.

At the moment it's just so limited in capability.

Now on a lollipop powered moto g mk1 and it's so much better.

No, it's not the end. The most recent generation of Nokia phones are actually quite good and competitively priced. I've seen quite a few people (the type who don't care what phone they use) switch to Windows Mobile after having used Android and iPhone, and they've not been disappointed.

For people that live for their app collection, that's where Microsoft completely screwed up (there used to be more apps 5 years ago when Windows Mobile 6.5 was around !). But if Microsoft are now going to allow Android and iOS apps to run on their devices, that might solve the current problem.

And now that Microsoft are heading towards a single operation system for all devices (PC to phone) it'll be here to stay, i.e. a safe investment.

My son has a Windoze Phone (Nokia) that my wife got him thinking it was a good idea.

Utterly dreadful OS. Took three of us 10 minutes to add a contact. Won't run Whatsapp properly and is consigned to being a door wedge. How they sell any to anyone that's tried one is beyond me when Android and iOS are light years ahead.

My Samsung Keystone candybar phones have far greater appeal.

Bought my Mum a Lumy windoze phone.

She finds it simple to use.

It was cheap, has a camera, lasts longer than my ibone, has gps/email and works fine.

My dad and brother are both on Win Phone and swear by it. TBH, there are only a couple of apps I'd want that it doesn't have; iOS is a less bug-free zone than advertised (does anyone else suffer with the issue where the wifi doesn't work if cellular data is switched on?), and Android security patches don't get distributed as fast as ideal.

Meant to be some new flagships on the way, and continuum looks like a very interesting feature; I suspect what they'll be aiming for is the business market (though 18 months ago Surface was heading for a niche market, but now is doing very well)

With any Microsoft operating system my default attitude is to expect it to not work as expected unless you have the secret bit of hidden knowledge known only to the inner sanctum and those acolytes who spend their entire life immersed in its ways.

Utterly dreadful OS. Took three of us 10 minutes to add a contact

And took me less than a minute having never used one before even my Missus can do it on her Lumia 925 and she's a total luddite when it comes to technology, now on my 3rd one and no reason to change from it either.

I have one for work, and TBH it nearly gets thrown out the window at least twice a day. Awful awful OS, counter-intuitive, clumsy (swipe up then press another button to answer a call, just one example) as others have mentioned doing anything as straight forward as adding a contact is a minefield of dead-ends. and the lack of apps is painfully obvious.

can't wait for it to die

They seem to do alright in the business market - they sell a perfectly useable or "bastard hateful piece of shit" depending if you're the boss or the employee smart phone for £60 that's 10% the price of an iPhone or even 30% the price of an Samsung Mini or Ace phone and it does work well if you're a 365 user in work because it syncs brilliantly.

Not sure they've got many fans privately though, they're very sensible and boring - you can't even get Candy Crush on them!

I have a Lumia 635 for work and tbh it is not too bad apart from the paucity of apps. I also have a Samsung Note 2 of my own and I tend to do MFP, Google Play music and the other apps I use on that so I do not get too frustrated by the lack of apps on the work phone.

I actually find the OS pretty easy to use - probably simpler than Android - and for me it is the only device I have had where Windows 8 makes sense (PC or tablet no thanks!).

My job involves installing Cisco collaboration systems to which Microsoft are a growing competitor. There story having an integrated mobile phone platform plus the Skype carrier service is looking pretty good imo.

Microsoft seem really well placed to grab the business mobile market from Blackberry so this move kind of surprises me.

I just bought a 50 quid Nokia 530 just because I wanted to test whether an idea was simpler to code on the windows platform than android. So far I've been pleasantly surprised at how well it works. Slight problem with bluetooth comms with a power meter at the mo, but the manufacturer is looking into it.

Not sure they've got many fans privately though, they're very sensible and boring - [b]you can't even get Candy Crush on them![/b]

[url= https://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/app/candy-crush-saga/aebbdef8-1792-488b-a7be-7596a1720166 ]You sure about that?[/url]

When was the start of Windows Phone?

How times change. Nokia and Ericsson once the darlings of the embryonic mobile phone industry but too late to adapt to the smart phone revolution.

Awful awful OS, counter-intuitive, clumsy (swipe up then press another button to answer a call, just one example)

Mine doesn't do that. Are you holding it right?

I've got one (Nokia 925 I think) and it's great. Simple to use and does everything I want it to. My Mrs liked it so much she chopped in her iphone for the next model up. She was back to the iphone last week while the screen on the Nokia got fixed and she couldn't wait to get the windows phone back.

Mine's a work phone and I've been told the contract is changing in December. I'll be gutted if they change to another brand.

The article is very much an opinion piece not news

I have a mate who is an academic in this area and he thinks that Winodows is getting their. My son is on his second windows phone and he like it and has had no problems. He is not big on Apps but uses Whatsapp all the time

What i didn't realise was that Nokia sold the brand name and phone plants to Microsoft. But they kept he patent portfolio which is doing well. when you buy any mobile Nokia get a cut

Tried a Widows phone, it wouldn't connect to my car bluetooth, every subsequent iPhone or android phone worked though.

Apparently ," the phone is too new and maybe I should buy a new car! "

😯

I've just upgraded to a Samsung Note 4. You can have my old Nokia 100 if you like. 😀

How they sell any to anyone that's tried one is beyond me

I think that's just your failure to adapt to something different.

It's a great OS, simple and clear. Phone hardware is good too and the budget ones are fantastic value.

The main apps are mostly there, but what bugs me is the way that small specialist apps only come for the other two.

, simple and clear.

The settings menu on the 930 looks like a right dogs dinner

Could someone bring back a physical button for answering calls?

Could someone bring back a physical button for answering calls?

I have owned 3 x different windows phones and all of them have connected to the Bluetooth in our Cmax with no issues whatsoever, also have a Bluetooth fault code reader for the cars(Elm 327) again no issues connecting my phone to that to read fault codes.

I think a lot of people are so indoctrinated in doing things the 'Apple way' on phones that when it doesn't work the same its automatically sh!t.
I use a iPhone daily admittedly it's a older 4s and find it irritating in comparison to my 925 lumia.

I like Windows phones BUT THEY TURNED OFF MY SCRABBLE APP.
Bought an android phone and just made myself get used to it.
Miss the dedicated camera button though.
edit. When the scrabble app did work it was pretty hit and miss if your words would get sent.

Windows Phone is generally excellent but Lollipop imo (and as someone who's been using WP for the last 4 years) has the edge. But, only because they've nicked a few ideas from Nokia/MS.

@zippy-note the Sony Z3 and Z3 compact have a proper camera button. The rest of the Sony range may well do also

Having had android phones for years then a couple of work iphones I bought a Lumia 1020 windows phone for a bit of a change and in every respect it was (IMO, ymmv obvs etc) a much better phone and OS than the ios android equivalents.

Physically the device was easily on a part with the construction of the iPhone, the OS and tiles just worked better and I found cortana to be genuinely useable.

But I couldn't run Zwift on it so I'm back on android and I expect in not the only person who has one or two apps which are just not available even as 3rd party clients and for that reason either try wp and move back or just stick with what they know.

I'm hoping that the rumours of windows phones eventually running android apps similar to how BlackBerry did a while ago turn out to be true then I'll swap back again.

There's a whole load of Windows Phone demise press at the moment, started by Android fan blogs, all picking up on Microsoft's restructuring announcements. None of which say Windows Phone is going away at all.

All that's happened is Microsoft's venture into hardware side of phones is basically not making them money based on how much they paid for Nokia Mobile. They have rightfully decided that they'll leave the manufacture to others, and maybe release the odd flagship phones themselves rather than their flawed plan of releasing loads of low end phones. New flagship stuff coming out like the 940 and 940XL is Windows 10, most or all existing Win 8.1 phones get upgraded, and a huge amount of their developer tools are geared up for cross platform development on all devices and Windows 10 on phone is a key part of that. Though they are also supporting Android and iOS development.

cp - Member
I've given up on my windows 8.1 powered 930 until windows 10 comes out.

At the moment it's just so limited in capability

Curious to know in what way you feel it's limited. Just got a 640. Cheap, plenty of power for what I want, immense battery life, amazing camera and it's not even high end camera, but also it does everything I did with my old Android. Really can't find any limitations that I didn't have before, and some things are quite refreshing. Not having it run out of storage for apps despite tonnes of storage for one thing, not having it do an update and nearly brick the phone again or halve battery life, consume way too much data, or keep resetting itself, is also a major improvement.

One of the most frustrating things about Android I find is the fragmentation issue, which results in so many phones on different versions and customisations by operators and manufacturers. You can't easy pick up two Android phones and find the same thing in the same place. Some apps won't work on some versions, or are limited, or are buggy because the developer can't test on the thousands of different versions.

Another thing I've found with WP is I'm no longer consuming loads of mobile data with background apps, even though I have roughly similar background apps doing the same things. I went with a 2GB plan given how much my old Android was consuming, but I only get through 500mb tops in a month with WP. I've even been able to install Facebook. I removed it on Android as it consumed vast amounts of data!

mikertroid - Member
Won't run Whatsapp properly

I'm running WhatsApp on my 640, and it's doing everything it did on my old Android.

nickjb - you've changed my life for the better

One of the most frustrating things about Android I find is the fragmentation issue, which results in so many phones on different versions and customisations by operators and manufacturers.

This is also a security issue; unlike iOS and how WP10 is meant to work, security patches for Android have to be tested by manufacturers before release. End result is that a lot of phones don't get updated because the patch hasn't been approved.

Coming from Android I love how I have had lots of incremental upgrades over the last two years. Previous phone got bugger all.

[b]Nokia Lumia 635 help please[/b] - How do I turn on, or off, Voicemail?

Thanks!

What network are you on?

What do you mean turn off voicemail?

Well, you know, turn it on or off!

You mean stop the phone going to voicemail when you don't pick it up? If so, that's nothing to do with the phone, it's your network that does it.

As above, MS have cut their losses on Nokia. They'll still be strong in the OS market I reckon - for business at least as you can significantly reduce complexity and cost of your business's systems by having everything on Windows.