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I think you have lost the argument/debate when you start getting personel!


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 7:48 pm
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You know these attacks on another female politician based primarily on her looks really is depressing

If it was just female politicians you'd have a point, but people here hardly hold back when discussing the appearance of Johnson, Corbyn, Cummings, etc. It's not like she's been singled out because she's a woman.

Now come on people - which of you has Boris on your 'people I fancy but shouldn't' list?


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 8:03 pm
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You know these attacks on another female politician based primarily on her looks really is depressing.

I’ll happily attack that evil witch on a whole host of things, looks are very low down on unattractive things about her


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 8:41 pm
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It takes a special kind of special to stand there and defend a set of new immigration rules that would have excluded your own immigrant parents from ever entering the UK

As thick as mince. Even by the standards of this cabinet of sock-puppets. Discounting Suella Braverman, obviously, who is quite breathtakingly stupid. Having said that, most of them look like they’d struggle to tie their own shoelaces in the morning

Has their ever been a government anywhere in the world that comprised such a collection of dimwits?


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 8:51 pm
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Now come on people – which of you has Boris on your ‘people I fancy but shouldn’t’ list?

He’s on my ‘People I’d like to pin in a headlock and brush their ****ing hair’ list. It’s a pretty short list. Just him and Wurzel Gummidge.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 8:52 pm
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Scarecrowist !!


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 8:53 pm
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He’s on my ‘People I’d like to pin in a headlock and brush their **** hair’ list. It’s a pretty short list. Just him and Wurzel Gummidge.

Your internet persona defiantly comes across as though you’d entertain a threesome with Aunt Sally.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 8:54 pm
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Yes, yes I would. As long as there is a cup of tea and slice of cake at the end.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 9:03 pm
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You know these attacks on another female politician based primarily on her looks really is depressing... we limit ourselves to criticism based on her word and actions, god knows there should be plenty there to keep people going for ages!

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I’ll happily attack that evil witch on a whole host of things, looks are very low down on unattractive things about her

Yet you chose to call her a witch. A word that has strong connotation with the persecution of women based primarily on being women and looking/behaving a bit funny.

No where, and I mean nowhere, on the web is there a forum of mainly woman getting stuck into Tory politicians with a barrage of sexist abuse and innuendo. "Phoarr that Gove might be a wrong un but I have a thing for goblin like men he gets me going"


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 9:41 pm
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Have you checked on mumsnet?


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 9:42 pm
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Has their ever been a government anywhere in the world that comprised such a collection of dimwits?

It does feel like that at the moment.

Just compare one of our Westminster Cabinet members speaking on any subject with any member from Hollyrood, The Senedd or most European politicians.

It's depressing.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 9:46 pm
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No where, and I mean nowhere, on the web is there a forum of mainly woman getting stuck into Tory politicians with a barrage of sexist abuse and innuendo.

You’re so wrong

Mumsnet filth


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 11:50 pm
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Well that's a bit embarrassing Tom. Care to comment?


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 11:55 pm
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I'm summary, there has been some objections to the objectification of the objectional person who takes the form of an irregular object.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:09 am
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tomd

No where, and I mean nowhere, on the web is there a forum of mainly woman getting stuck into Tory politicians with a barrage of sexist abuse and innuendo. “Phoarr that Gove might be a wrong un but I have a thing for goblin like men he gets me going”

Sorry, but is this the most wrong that anyone on STW has ever been...?

A few mumsnet quotes from the thread linked:

"If you mean sexually, then Boris. I reckon he'd be filthy. And highly enthusiastic."

"To sleep with, none of them seem like great options. Johnson is physically repulsive. He looks like a sweaty, smelly tub of lard with a personal hygiene problem. Gove is worse. A whiny, snivelling little squirt who no woman could be attracted to. I bet he keeps his vest, socks and glasses on during sex."

"Op, I've heard Gove has the nickname 'donkey'. Read into that what you will"

Although, I suppose it could have been a load of blokes on mumsnet writing that...?


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:17 am
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Let's focus on her inhumane policies rather than her chonkyness and razor sharp cheek bones shall we?

What is this, Vouge magazine?


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:28 am
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stumpy - further on in the thread there is a riposte to '...gove is nicknamed Donkey';
because he brays and will bite you for no reason.
That is 10/10.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:47 am
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mattyfez - it isn't Vogue magazine or Vouge, whatever that is....
Back to the mumsnet thread for more belly laughs.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:49 am
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most of them look like they’d struggle to tie their own shoelaces in the morning

Well, I expect most have got either their mum, or a paid lackey to do it for them...

Now come on people – which of you has Boris on your ‘people I fancy but shouldn’t’ list?

😱
That’ll be an absolute no, right there! In fact there isn’t a single politician I can think of.
Well, there’s the current PM of New Zealand, but c’mon!


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:52 am
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I’m not entirely sure two wrongs make a right though. Yes woman do objectify men, but that’s not really an excuse for us to carry on doing it.

I think she’s a terrible individual, incompetent and should have stayed sacked. I don’t think that has any relevance on how she looks or how she dresses. If I thought a woman at work was incompetent, I wouldn’t raise the issue then finish it with ‘and I wouldn’t touch her with yours mate’. So why do it on here...


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 12:55 am
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Mumsnet

Well I'll be damned, I have never stumbled into that pit before.

Carry on then, it's OK to abuse people for their appearance.

I did used to be quite bad for doing it myself, thinking back to politicians like Ann Widecombe. It's just something I grew out of because it's just wrong. You certainly would't want people judging your work ability on appearance and estimated sexual ability. "Should we employ Bob to be our spreadsheet jockey?" "Nah he's fat and looks a right state in a skirt, probably be terrible in bed too".

Presumably you'd rather folk valued your mum / wife / daughter for their abilities at work and not high heels or cheek bones (that Nicola Sturgeon - Theresa May high heels thing was a low water mark).


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 6:25 am
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You are of course quite right. And as the poster who derailed the thread at the first reply I must take my fair share of the blame.

Your contribution did bring into sharp relief however the propensity of us men of a vaguely liberal persuasion to naively hand wring and self flagellate that we are the worst and only offenders. Another example, radio 4 news quiz - that den of lefty humour - had an ongoing theme during the Labour leadership election about how Keir Starmer was a bit of all right and basically, you definitely would. Broadcast Friday 6.30pm in the middle class kitchens of Britain. Fair enough objectification be called out but let's not be so blinkered into thinking it's just a 'man' problem.

Mumsnet - many multiple times bigger than STW, without a swear filter, minimum moderation and if you think that thread is a viper's nest you have not seen anything yet. Yet it's often considered a mouthpiece for the 21st century woman. Turns out that's a potty mouth.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 6:51 am
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Your contribution did bring into sharp relief however the propensity of us men of a vaguely liberal persuasion to naively hand wring and self flagellate that we are the worst and only offenders.

Well technically I think that was at least in part me. Oh and we (men) ARE the worst when it comes to objectification. No question. Whilst women might be guilty of it too at times don’t pretend that it’s in any way equal or equivalent. When it comes down to it women don’t have the power to actually carry out thise actions; men do. That’s the difference.

“Oh look the women have potty mouths” well we (men) have fists and a propensity to violence.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 7:09 am
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When it comes down to it women don’t have the power to actually carry out thise actions; men do. That’s the difference.

“Oh look the women have potty mouths” well we (men) have fists and a propensity to violence.

I know what you are trying to say but that is a huge leap. A better argument is that men, especially in the workplace, have traditionally had the upper hand due to inequality in levels of seniority in most organisations - the objectification is/was often of a junior colleague.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 7:21 am
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I’m chalking this thread down to cabin fever 🙂

We changing her name to Phwoar Patel then.

“Counterterrorism Terrorist” that bloke next door vid was ace.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 7:29 am
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May be Bristolian pronunciation .


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 7:31 am
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It is pretty sad that people can't discuss a politician without bringing in their looks but at least nobody has said she should be "sent back to where she came from" which is the sort of sentiment she displays.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 8:09 am
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I think most of the comments about her looks are not "wow she's sexy", they are more concerned with the permanent smug grin she has.

It's unfortunate as it distracts from the real issue of her being a thoroughly horrible, incompetent, self-entitled, self-serving wretched individual.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 8:41 am
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That hasn't held me back.


 
Posted : 09/06/2020 8:42 am
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'When the economy tanks, out come the tanks'
'Get a grip' (around the neck)
'the landlord revolution'
'we're so Priti vacant'
'autarchy for the UK'
'Tanks for the memories'
'Food to die for'


 
Posted : 10/06/2020 10:51 am
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Yes woman do objectify men, but that’s not really an excuse for us to carry on doing it.

I'm going to have to call you out on this considering your username (says the man whose last thread title contained only swearing, oops).


 
Posted : 10/06/2020 5:24 pm
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Think she just rubber-stamped her own application for the ever-evolving vacancy for Minister Of Propaganda. Is anything unbelievable of late? The brass of the neck 😡

https://twitter.com/pritipatel/status/1286429362284371968


 
Posted : 25/07/2020 11:44 am
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Together we must continue on her mission to right the wrongs.

Wow.


 
Posted : 25/07/2020 12:06 pm
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[s]Together we[/s] [b]You[/b] must continue on her mission to right the wrongs [b] that I, Theresa May and others in my government inflicted[/b].

FTFH


 
Posted : 25/07/2020 12:29 pm
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Priti Patel is sorry if you feel that you've been deported.


 
Posted : 25/07/2020 1:59 pm
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Facially, she is technically pretty. However she should wear an inflatable lectern so we don't get to see the hips and all that.


 
Posted : 25/07/2020 2:50 pm
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Will johnson act against patel or just waffle on for a bit before saying...it's business as usual?
I wonder what Philip Rutnam will do or say? I hope he continues with his constructive dismissal claim against patel - she deserves it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55007122


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 7:31 pm
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Johnson will do nothing. He only asked them to support him, and be prepared to push through a no deal Brexit, nothing else matters.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 7:34 pm
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Things like this don’t matter anymore. Politicians like Patel and BoJo have realised that they can basically get away with anything. Ministers don’t resign anymore. They just ignore it and the voting public let them off without challenge.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 7:35 pm
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Report has watered down, people will be paid off and she will survive and thrive.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:00 pm
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Things like this don’t matter anymore. Politicians like Patel and BoJo have realised that they can basically get away with anything. Ministers don’t resign anymore. They just ignore it and the voting public let them off without challenge.

This. We are so becoming a third world country. 🙁


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:46 pm
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This. We are so becoming a third world country. 🙁

I mean it could be worse we could have a leader whos looking to use the legal system to overthrow a democratic process.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 10:38 pm
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It should be a big deal- but even wind the clock back a few years and she'd just resign for about 4 minutes and then return. I mean, it's nothing on the windrush scandal and look how that turned out- Rudd quit in disgrace in April 2018, returned to the cabinet 7 months later.

But these days it doesn't even register.


 
Posted : 20/11/2020 12:07 am
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Cleverly on question time basically not saying bullying is wrong. Just in case she's been bullying and someone holds him to his comments.


 
Posted : 20/11/2020 12:10 am
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Report has watered down

It sounds worse than that. Too much evidence of her bullying to bury it… so they’re blaming the civil servants for not telling her directly so that she could moderate herself. Literally victim blaming.


 
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