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my brother deserves some training to get back to work because he's contributed to the system in taxes.

As have I, and many others. No training for me, or anybody else I tried to help at the jobcentre. Did the DWP pay for training, or did you make that up?

he was hit by a drunk driver

I don't dispute that he was, but you suggest he's had a multitude of mishaps. Good for him though, getting real training that provides the skills for a real job makes a big difference when trying to bring up a family in the UK today.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:26 am
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you make your own luck in life

Tell that to your brother mate!

haha, couldn't help myself...see, you don't

make your own luck in life
some of the time.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:29 am
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Is Africa a good example of lazy people waiting for government "handouts" ?

No, however its a bloody good example of people not rising up against corrupt governments and overthowing them... Until they do that then really theres no way out of their own poverty trap is there - [s]Rhodesia[/s] Zimbabwe being a case in point, - as Legend says, sometimes you make your own luck...


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:32 am
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No, however its a bloody good example of people not rising up against corrupt governments and overthowing them... Until they do that then really theres no way out of their own poverty trap is there

So, you're saying we are ****ed here in the UK unless the military join the discontents and coup the **** out of Downing street?


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:35 am
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well having as many children as possible an working as little as possible
seems to be the norm where i live!
i'm not sure which part of the gov he recieved training from.
my point is this,i know some people need gov assistance but i also know that alot of people play the system,
were i live you are looked upon as a mug if you work but its just the way i am, i like work.
i just think that to take off people that work to give to people that don't is just a slap in the face,
surly its better to give them an incentive


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:37 am
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but my bro has made his own luck because he's picked himself up and moved on where others would just see it as a meal ticket


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:39 am
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surly its better to give them an incentive

Yeah, like a wage you can live on.

i'm not sure which part of the gov he recieved training from

He's very special if he received any training from the Govt.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:39 am
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whats stopping them getting a wage they can live on


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:41 am
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Have you tried living on minimum wage?


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:43 am
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So you can't make up your mind if it's Rhodesia or Zimbabwe, eh Ratty ?

I guess that old colonial mentality still lingers deep inside you ....... oh, how like Enoch Powell, you must miss the Empire aye ? And all those great towering figures such as Cecil Rhodes .......

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So Zimbabwe is [i]'a bloody good example of people not rising up against a corrupt government and overthrowing it'[/i]
LOL ! ....... yeah the Zimbabwean people are just sitting back and doing nothing to oppose Robert Mugabe !


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:45 am
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yeah i have then i changed career and did something about it.instead of wollowing in self pity thinking the world owed me a favour!


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:46 am
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yeah i have then i changed career and did something about it.instead of wollowing in self pity thinking the world owed me a favour!

How did you afford to train up in something? I'm interested, as it costs 5k to get a trade in the UK (assuming you are an adult). How did you support yourself while training? What career did you go for by the way?


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:51 am
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i was a pipe fitter for eight years and now i'm a taxi driver


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:52 am
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C'mon, would be easy for the people to overthrow Mugabe, theres millions of them agains a fairly small core of government clinging onto power - I seem to remember several Eastern European states toppling their governments in bloodless revolutions in recent times,

why would it be impossible for the Rhodesians to rise up against Bob? and I call them that because if you remember, it was they who rose up and got rid of their previous administration...

Certainly its as easy as it would be for us to do it here in the UK, all it takes is a bit of commitment and a popular movement


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:56 am
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true how hard can it be to move the old boys club


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 12:58 am
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C'mon, would be easy for the people to overthrow Mugabe, theres millions of them

Well I guess they must just love him then Ratty.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 1:02 am
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Good for you Legend76. I'm surprised though that someone doing a poorly paid tiresome job would be so dismissive of people forced into even worse paid work that wouldn't support a family, or an individual in many cases without "top up" benefits.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 1:05 am
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No, they don't love him, they're just largely apathetic, wont take responsibility for themselves and are waiting for someone to do it for them... 😉

in just the same way that a [b]significant proportion[/b] of those on social benefits in the UK are lazy ****less bastards who cant be arsed taking responsibility for themselves and getting a job, when they get paid very handsomely for doing nob all.


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 1:09 am
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So just like Africa then ?

Well **** me, legend76 [i]was[/i] right, after all 😯


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 1:12 am
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in just the same way that a significant proportion of those on social benefits in the UK are lazy ****less bastards who cant be arsed taking resposibility for themselves and getting a job, when they get paid very handsomely for doing nob all.

Taking a job and earning much less would be something only a dumb African would do though, eh labrat?


 
Posted : 23/09/2009 1:19 am
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