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In my 135i if you give say 20% throttle it might go from 8>7. If you give it a bit more maybe 8>6 all the way to the kick down at the bottom of the travel where it will give you the lowest available gear for the speed.
FD - you’re right the proper M cars get the 7 speed DCT but I think the new M5 might be the first to break the trend.. think it’s a torque converter not sure if ZF though.
Yep - autocar saying new M5 is ZF8. The DCTs are cracking bits of kit but they can be a bit too quick/brutal around town (in the M4 comp I drove anyway) even in the lower “shift ferocity” settings.
On the DSG on an uphill corner you get this weird lag changing down, weird. Wouldn;t get that in a manual would you
Yeah, you always have to pause acceleration when changing gear in a manual, cos the clutch is always in for a time - unless you are crashing it which isn't advisable.
I wonder if this is dependant on the personality type of the driver?
No. My personality is watching the road as closely as possible at all times, which is why it makes it easier to have one less thing to think about.
You bring your own attitude to driving with you when drive. If you care about driving then you'll pay attention, otherwise not; likewise if you are impatient you'll drive fast. The two things are orthogonal. You can have fast careless drivers and slow careless ones and any other combination.
Best clutch / manual shift experience I've had recently is my VW Up! No delay valve there (and nice NA throttle response too, just with almost no power 🙂
All the bigger cars I've owned /driven have had some form of delay valve ruining it. I don't understand why they put them in.
I'm ashamed to admit that I can't do a heel and toe clutch and brake thingy. Does that make me sexually inadequate?
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I long for the day when the car drives it’s self entirelyI hope CountZero’s retired by then
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I hope I’m dead by then. It sounds horrendous.
If that is in response to fully auto cars, having just had to drive down the M6 through the crap 50 limits and back and delayed heading up to the North East till the morning as I got back late and I'm knackered is sounds like bliss with free relaxation.
I’m ashamed to admit that I can’t do a heel and toe clutch and brake thingy. Does that make me sexually inadequate?
Certainly, I guess you also don't try and overtake in ridiculously short distances too!
This is what the real men of STW were doing earlier
I drive coaches, I can’t remember the last manual box coach i drive, probably about 2007 I expect.
we’ve recently got some new coaches with smaller engines, (only 11Litres) which need to be revved to get full power, this requires using the semi auto option on the gear lever, i can assure you id rather not have to do this, it’s easier to not have to think about which of the 12 gears you need to be in.
as an aside, my next car will definitely be an auto, probably a cvt equipped scooby.
they are easier and more efficient.
i’m also a fan of electric handbrakes, and auto lights and wipers.
cant stand satnav or massive touchscreens though, I believe they distract your eyes from the road.
I hate auto wipers but that's probably more to do with my car being French than anything else. They just seem to flail about the place at the slightest hint of moisture. Auto lights don't bother me as much as DRL's and light up instruments do. All too easy to drive off and not realise you havent put the lights on, I see it all the time. At least auto lights can be programmed to come on with wipers which will hopefully cut down the number of dullards driving in poor visibility with no lights on.
What happens to an electric handbrake if you need to move the car with the battery flat or disconnected? Or the engine just not running. Presumably there must be a way to manually rewind the piston?
What happens to an electric handbrake if you need to move the car with the battery flat or disconnected? Or the engine just not running. Presumably there must be a way to manually rewind the piston?
Not easily, no. It's possible with some minor disassembly, could do it in ten minutes but then you'd be left with no handbrake and you'd have to jack the car up to do it so you'd probably be crushed.
I'd say ten minutes points to an easy job.
As for getting crushed and such, just put it in gear and the engine will hold it. I thought you had worked on a car before? Unless that doesn't work on an auto either.
There's quite a bit of fore/aft movement when it's in park, I'd not want to be under a car with that much free movement. n And only ten minutes because I've done it before and know exactly what to remove.
It's not a practical manual override in any sense tbh. I was being a bit of a smartarse.
That's what chocks are for, either that or put the front on ramps and then jack up the back.
As it's electric I wonder if you could just disconnect the motor then use a battery to unwind it? But that seems too easy, it probably has a brain of its own, more likely than not if it's French (they put ECU's in everything!)
EDIT: looked it up and yup, that's a bad idea.
As it’s electric I wonder if you could just disconnect the motor then use a battery to unwind it?
Big side track here but yeah you could do it I think, as long as you didn't take it too far. There's no electronics in the motor I think but could be wrong. You'd need the electronics to recalibrate it after doing something like that though.
But if you had a spare battery you could just hook.it up to the car and use the normal method. As long as the immobilizer is working....!