[Closed] Is it right to ban adults from wearing an item of clothing?

i cant believe i'm saying this but i agree with Sarkozy

Tis a tricky one. The burka is an extremely oppressive thing in itself and is not needed in Islam according to most islamic scholars. On balance - I really don't know

A cue for the Borat mankini picture if ever there was one.

It seems to me to be the wrong way of going about things. I lean quite heavily for my understanding of any of this on Ed Husain, but his book describes muslim women whose parents never wore the burka starting to wear them in their late teens because they were demonstrating an islamic identity that was more extreme than their parents'.

Meanwhile of course, the young blokes start to realise that an islamic extremist movement is a terrible place to get laid, which just makes them angrier.

In my ideal society, no-one feels constrained to wander round under a burka, and no-one feels as though they have the right to constrain someone to do it. But I don't see that making it illegal to wear one is a positive step.

The danger of banning them is the men who control these women will just refuse to let them outside

Hmm - I can't see banning it as a good thing - only going to help make people more extremist surely.

I can't help finding it disturbing to see women wearing them though. Reminds me of reading The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmai d's_Tale

Those in favour of banning them. If, in fact, you learnt that everyone who wore one did so entirely voluntarily, would you still ban them? Is it the Jack Straw style "I'm creeped out by having to talk to a woman in a sheet" concern, or is it about the sacred right of all free women to wander around in hot pants and a tankini?

I can see why in the French Secular State Sarkozy chose to say what he did. In a way a modern politician could only ever say that in the French Republic.

Like most things the wearing of a Burka can be nuanced, it is sometimes difficult for others to pick up on those nuances, so it gets lost in translation. I think the debate should be why people feel they need to make others wear certain clothes, or why people feel that they should wear them. As long as those choices are made freely, then the state should keep it's nose out.

Well I am kind mixt on this one. If a woman "Freely" choose to wear it fair enough. However I find it very rude not to be able to see someone face when I speak to him/her (for instance I do remove my sunglasses when speaking to someone). But then I have very much doubt the vast majority of women choose to wear a burka.
Saddly there is a radicalisation and a ghettoisation of islam in France. Concrete of French republic has always been the "liberté égalité fraternité". I do concur however these values are getting forgotten more and more often. However in a country where political and religious power have been separated, it is only fair that human dignity comes before religious belief (in the wider picture).

Now what does really upset me, is that this tory scumbag, is trying to get all the merit of the work of some left wing MP's for him...

Yup, ban it.It would also stop suicide bombers(failed)escaping from the UK dressed as their sisters.(Life of Brian stoning springs to mind)
My wife grew up in Kuwait, she stresses the Burka is not seen as required wear for women. Being a teacher I can remember how annoyed I was when that classroom assistant tried to sue because she was not allowed to teach in the full burka/ mountain mayhem buff pulled up ensemble. (forget what you call it ) She also played the "you don't understand my culture" card as well. WITCH!

The French minister behind getting rid of it is a female muslim, and has obviously, been receiving death threats. The thinking behind it is also meant to Frenchify immigrants

If, in fact, you learnt that everyone who wore one did so entirely voluntarily, would you still ban them?

Depends how you interpret voluntarily though doesn't it. The women might say they do it voluntarily, but does social pressure mean it is hard for them not to?

For the purpose of the hypothesis, no, it does not. 🙂

Don't see how they could be banned completely, but Turkey bans the wearing of them in government buildings.

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Maybe they are not Muslims, but really ugly and shy with it?

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or, a burhkini

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