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a) don't give a baby a mobile phone as they won't understand the conversation and will try to eat it
b) don't give a mobile phone to a toddler or you'll be knee deep in pizzas
c) don't give a mobile to a child or they'll fill the internet with pictures of their bottom
d) don't give a mobile phone to a teenager if you ever want to speak to them again (hard choice)
[i]What it doesn't prove, outside of the tabloids, is whether that has any effect on our health.[/i]
Quite right, but given the choice of a house where the air crackles above it on damp days and one that doesn't then I'd go for the latter. Plus I win on False Authority top-trumps as I work in a University rather than a College 🙂
[i]don't give a mobile phone to a teenager[/i]
"What did people do before mobile phones, Daddy?"
"Well Son, we made firm plans to meet somewhere and we got there on time"
Fluorescent tube lighting up under powerlines?
Is it just an urban myth?
"Well Son, we made firm plans to meet somewhere and we got there on time"
did that actually [b]ever[/b] happen ??
🙂 Have you been listening to R4 this week wwaswas?
[i]Is it just an urban myth?[/i]
Nope, but it is art.
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doesn't prove that living near a substation will brain your damage though
EDIT. too slow AGAIN! stupid sling forcing me to type devil handed
I once saw someone stick a tube in the ground and it lit up. They'd demolished the block without turning off the power 🙂
IanMunro - it's possible 🙂
Teef, dont listen to them! the world is a dangerous place and you cant do enough to keep safe. Personally I also never give presents anymore after i read that [url= http://www.itexaminer.com/sellotape-means-x-rays-for-all.aspx ]sellotape gives off x-rays[/url]! I cant go putting myself at risk like that for other peoples happiness. Of course my other half says i could still by the presents but i think giving an unwrapped present is cheap so i just dont give one at all :0)
I think im gonna go hide in a corner, nowhere is safe! Better take my cycle-helmet too, just incase like.
Maybe hora can use a mobile addled brain as an excuse for cowboy boots, leopard skin leggings and a Rod Stewart fetish 🙂
Just out of interest, how much EMR gets to earth from the Sun? Got to be more radiation from that bad boy than anything else, shurely?
Electromagnetic fields are governed by the inverse square law.
As a result, you expose yourself to FAR stronger fields when you hoover with the cable over your arm than you do if you're living under a pylon.
I'd be amazed if many of the pylon studies are sound - houses under pylons tend to be cheaper, so you get a whole load of other effects interfering with the study. When you consider that wealth / class is one of the best predictors of how long someone will live, you can begin to see how the studies can be skewed.
tron - don't go getting all sensible!! 🙂
tron learns all about emf;
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If you ride a steel framed bike it will become magnetised and always pull to the right.
If you don't have a sub station near you get an ordinary light bulb and put it in the microwave. Sparks a bit and then lights up. If you want to try this with a fluorescent tube your going to need to find a very big microwave.
Not that anyone is aware of. Is the answer.
Nope, but it is art.
Well that's ok then 😉
Also if you get a pickled gherkin and connect it to the mains it will glow quite nicely.
If you live in a posh house that doesn't have fluorescent tubes in the kitchen or a fish tank, then you could try standing outside holding a pickled gherkin instead.
Zombies live in substations, I saw one once.
When I ride under a power line I get a small electric shock on the inside of my thighs form the saddle rails.
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.Which is quite agreeable BTW 😉
There's always a faint possibility that some horrific fault could cause the substation to go pop. All that fault current, and a few dozen gallons of insulating oil. I wouldn't want to live near that.
Also, indoor sub stations have a history of attracting smackheads looking for somewhere quiet to shoot up. Muller Corner yoghurt pots discarded nearby are the giveaway.
(Scottish Power Apprentice of the Year 2005, thank you very much!)
Transformers can explode a bit, but if they've had an oil change to the less explodey oil, that helps.
Nice technical explaination there ned.
Joe - I'm intrigued. What were the pots used for?
Mobile phones, ah yes for years there has been research linking them to brain disorders...
I'll not disagree with this. Give most people a mobile phone and they turn f'kin stupid.
As an aside, I wouldn't live near a pylon. Not for any health worries, but because they buzz like a sackful of angry wasps. It'd drive me (further) round the twist.
Does the buzz get louder when it rains on them, or is it just me?
God I am bored today......
what happens if you plug an edam into the mains?
the crackling, popping and buzzing of the pylons in wharnecliffe has always been a concern.
much more dangerous than hurling yourself off rocks and down cliffs.
Transformers can explode a bit
Very true, as well documented in the two movies.
You can write to local governement testing centres for info
I had the guy as I was bored and a bit of dare from uni pals-testing the radiation from mobile masts located on school grounds... and electrical junction boxes.
He refused to measure ionisation energy. WHO refuse to get involved in these studies too.
I gave all the stats to a specialist as it went beyond me. I wouldn't live near one though-mainly fear.
There are plenty of houses out there for similar prices without any such consideration.
What next? By a house near a motorway as its 10% cheaper? LOL. Tightwads.
then you could try standing outside holding a pickled gherkin instead
"No officer, that's not my penis, it's a pickled gherkin I'm using to test for electrical fields"...
So, if I've got this right [url= http://www.emf-theband.com/ ]emf[/url] can affect the price of the house?
And if you use fluorescent tubes you get free light?
And the gherkins will cook themselves? Except Simonfbarnes who wants threaten the police with his todger?
This is too confusing... [url= http://www.hps.org/hpspublications/articles/powerlines.html ]Sense at last![/url]
Except Simonfbarnes who wants threaten the police with his todger?
not just policemen! Be afraid...
Teef, dont listen to them! the world is a dangerous place and you cant do enough to keep safe. Personally I also never give presents anymore after i read that sellotape gives off x-rays! I cant go putting myself at risk like that for other peoples happiness. Of course my other half says i could still by the presents but i think giving an unwrapped present is cheap so i just dont give one at all :0)
I think im gonna go hide in a corner, nowhere is safe! Better take my cycle-helmet too, just incase like.
It's OK - I've come across unintelligent, uneducated, ignorant people before.
You may wish to don a tin-foil hat before reading this about [url= http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/06%20Power_Lines.html ]Electrostress[/url].
And then of course there's Geopathic Stress to consider (see chapters 11-21)... 8)
Cougar - MemberTransformers can explode a bit
Very true, as well documented in the two movies.
We had an indoor one here at work explode a few years back. The roof developed a leak which allowed water in which shorted the sub staion resulting in a bang.
The sub staion building had to be pulled down and rebuilt afterwards.
yet you lived too tell the tale unharmed surely you turned into some sort of superhero due to the forces involved ? Can you not shrink Hora with a withering look or even more impressive get him to ride his bike uphill using magnetism?
Under the Electricity Distribution and storage of electricity act/sub station/section 13/2/zart/tyde.
You are liable for half price electricity from your provider. 😯
I was going to give a sensible answer to this, but given my job and all noone who believes the scare stories and conspiracy theories would believe me.
The answer is you are at far more risk from slippers. (11 deaths per annum due to slippers - probably higher with my feet).
That said don't climb inside the compound and try to take the big grey boxes apart - there is some level of real danger associated with that.
It's OK - I've come across [s]unintelligent, uneducated, ignorant people[/s]People with no patience for purveyors of woo and wooly thinking before.
There Teef, fixed it for you 😉
Personally I wouldn't want to live close to high voltage pylons because of induced magnetic fields and static. Plus the buzzing would drive me nuts. I used to cycle out to race meetings at Castle Combe Circuit, and there are 400,000v cables across Quarry Corner, and I had to stop spectating there because I got electric shocks off of any metal part of my bike that I touched. I have no issues with phone masts; there's an O2 one about 50m away at the top of my road. As I'm on O2 that means I get a [i]really[/i] good 3G signal. I saw a programme once that set up a mobile mast in a college grounds as a test. Students immediately started complaining of headaches, sickness, blurred vision...
The mast hadn't been switched on.
Magnetic fields fall off very quickly with distance.
If you're worried make sure you don't use a microwave, hair drier, headphones, TV etc