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We've got an old pressure cooker pan that we've used for years but all the original coating has long since come off due to the dishwasher.

Is it a health hazard?

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Posted : 04/01/2011 5:30 pm
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Only if you inject it. (-: You'd have to ingest a serious amount for it to be a health risk.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:32 pm
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alzheimer's.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:34 pm
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I do remember something about linking aluminium to alzeimers disease. Think you would be needing to cook something pretty acidic in your pans though, maybe boiling rhubarb.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:34 pm
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I seem to recall that there might be a link to early-onset senility through consumption of aluminium..... The story was linked to old people using aluminium teapots.

As an aside, worn teflon coatings on pans are deadly poisonous to budgies and not so good for other pets either!


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:34 pm
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There have been claimed links to Alzheimers, possibly now de-bunked. It's a pretty reactive metal, but that results in a "skin" of oxide on the outside.

I wouldn't leave any acidic food in an aluminium pot for any length of time - eg pickles / fruit juice.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:34 pm
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I don't trust any of those coatings so perhaps you should consider Mermaid Dish Hard Anodised Finish trays/tins.

[url= http://www.cooksandkitchens.co.uk/mermaid.asp ]Mermaid brand[/url]

Or any of those aluminium baking trays/tins without coating.

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Posted : 04/01/2011 5:42 pm
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And is it worse than ingesting the non-stick coating in the first place?

Personally I won't use non-stick pans and I wouldn't use aluminium ones. It's your lifelong exposure though. - You may of course choose to ignore "unproven risks".

Whatever your conclusion, it's probably a bad idea to make pickle in it


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:43 pm
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My grandad was one of 4 brothers. Living in Newcastle after the war the choice was for Federation Ale (from the Fed Brewery) or Newcastle Brown Ale from S&N, allegedly brewed in aluminium kettles. Uncle Walter and Grandad both drank brown ale and both died of Alzheimers. Uncle Alan and Uncle George both drank Fed and didn't.

I don't drink brown any more.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:45 pm
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Many years ago a friend was present at a meeting between Hoogovens (now merged with BS to make Corus) a dutch aluminium producer and some representatives from Kaiser Steel a US aluminium producer. Hoogovens were thinking of buying Kaisers American Al operations.

Hoogovens "So what is the Al ion content of your quench water outflow and how do the authorities regulate this"
Kaiser "Hmmm Gee you know we never measured that, and we haven't been asked to"
Hoogovens "We shall bite your arm off"

In Holland and Germany, where Hoogovens operated,m they were tightly regulated over Al in the water, it cost them lots of money to clean it up so a US plant with no regualtion was a good investment for them. I think the deal never happened in the end for other reasons but it was interesting.

I cannot believe you have all missed the joke: I used to know something about Al and Alzheimers but I've forgotten it now.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 5:53 pm
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[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelford_water_pollution_incident ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelford_water_pollution_incident[/url]


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 6:00 pm
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That there is Aluminium Sulphate and a whole different kettle of ball games.
edit and the real problem was down to it breaking down into Sulphuric acid which stripped lead and copper out of the pipes and make peeps sick that way.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 6:12 pm
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i think i'll get a new pan!


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 6:44 pm
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Lots of cheap/old saucepans are alu.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 6:54 pm
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I've got an uncoated aluminium pressure cooker. I've got alu trangia pots. If it was such a health risk, after the exposure it's had, I think someone might have regulated against cooking pots using it. Of course you can't be sure, but I'll take the risk. They get used infrequently enough to not cause concern. If I were using it daily I might think about it, but then what would the option be? Steel? Stainless? All contain chemicals that can be harmful to animals/life.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 8:31 pm
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Steel and stainless steel are good for you.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 8:40 pm
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http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/chemsafe/additivesbranch/enumberlist
It's an approved food colouring so can't be [i]that[/i] bad.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 8:43 pm
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Steel and stainless steel are good for you.

Good for you? I'd best start nibbling spokes.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 8:50 pm
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[quote> http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/chemsafe/additivesbranch/enumberlist
It's an approved food colouring so can't be that bad.

Aluminium isn't a food colouring, it's just a component part in some of them - they're completely different compounds/substances.


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 8:51 pm
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In that case what's the point in giving it an E-number if it's never used in elemental form?


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 11:04 pm
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You're missing the point I think, it's not got an E number.

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Oooh, sorry, you're right! I missed that one!
Interesting info!
http://www.ukfoodguide.net/e173.htm


 
Posted : 04/01/2011 11:11 pm