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Trump saying Iran bombed that girls school just sums him up. I previously regarded him as just an ignorant arrogant old fool - but feel he is a lot more evil than first thought.
I think he's just a mad sociopath like Boris Johnson, who I note has also been a vocal supporter of the Orange Monkey this week. They lie as easily as they breath and once they've shat the latest lie out of their cavernous gobs, they then expect that load of old bollocks to be taken as the truth by everyone, despite all evidence to the contrary
Im not even sure i get bombing Iranian fuel depots as a tactic (unless a ground invasion is coming soon)
It's exactly what Ukraine has been doing to Russia. It disrupts the military's supply chain and cuts off a source of foreign exchange and influence that could prolong the war.
. They lie as easily as they breath and once they've shat the latest lie out of their cavernous gobs, they then expect that load of old bollocks to be taken as the truth by everyone, despite all evidence to the contrary
I can't remember who it was, but someone well versed on the matter had a good explanation for this .
When you hear Trump spouting what is clearly and obviously to almost everyone complete nonsense you think to yourself 'surely no one believes this BS?'
And you're right, hardly anyone does. The point of it is not to make you believe it, they know you won't. The point is to make you doubt everything, question everything, especially things which actually are true. Once we can't tell fact from fiction any more everything just becomes tribal and that's what they want
Saw an interesting piece today that Vance has been off grid/under the radar this week, while Hegseth and Rubio have been making the headlines.
One argument is that he is against these wars that they weren't going to start, so is out of the loop/favour.
I do wonder if he's waiting for Trump to be removed via the 25th amendment for being batshit crazy, and tryimg to create plausible deniability
but bombing desalination plants is beyond insane
The only reference to this I can find is Iran apparently bombing a desalination plant in Bahrain, can some-one point me at the US doing this?
From euronews: the claim of a US attack on an Iranian desalination plant on the Isle of Qeshm by the Iranian foreign minister is reported widely in French media. I can't find anything in English due to my browser settings but it must be out there somewhere.
"Plus tôt dimanche, le ministre iranien des Affaires étrangères, Abbas Araghchi, a déclaré qu'une frappe aérienne américaine avait endommagé une usine de dessalement iranienne sur l'île de Qeshm, avertissant qu'en agissant ainsi, « ce sont les États-Unis qui ont créé ce précédent, et non l'Iran ». Ces infrastructures sont essentielles pour l'approvisionnement en eau potable dans les déserts arides du Golfe."
The point of it is not to make you believe it, they know you won't. The point is to make you doubt everything, question everything, especially things which actually are true. Once we can't tell fact from fiction any more everything just becomes tribal and that's what they want
Not sure you explained that correctly because as you state, if you and almost everyone else knows its untrue, and they aren`t trying to make you believe it is true, then your going to continue knowing its not true.
I think its a case of Trump following his role model, Adolf Hitler, and adhering to his big lie technique - by repeating a lie enough times it becomes the truth in those that want to believe it.
I’m just waiting for Trump to pull out of NATO in a moment of pique.
Thanks for digging that out @Edukator appreciate it, seems both the US and Iranians are accusing each other of this sort of atrocity
Not sure you explained that correctly because as you state, if you and almost everyone else knows its untrue, and they aren`t trying to make you believe it is true, then your going to continue knowing its not true.
Maybe I didn't. It's not to get you to believe the lie, because most won't. It's to make you doubt the truth, you get into a mindset of disbelieving everything all the time and the truth gets drowned out in all the noise. Whoever it was I quoting explained it much better than me.
Thanks for digging that out @Edukator appreciate it, seems both the US and Iranians are accusing each other of this sort of atrocity
New York Times have both reported here https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/08/world/middleeast/desalination-plants-iran-bahrain.html
Not sure you explained that correctly because as you state, if you and almost everyone else knows its untrue, and they aren`t trying to make you believe it is true, then your going to continue knowing its not true.
Maybe I didn't. It's not to get you to believe the lie, because most won't. It's to make you doubt the truth, you get into a mindset of disbelieving everything all the time and the truth gets drowned out in all the noise. Whoever it was I quoting explained it much better than me.
Sounds like the "Firehose of falsehood"
^ not so long and interesting
He has entered America into a war, the consequences of which he any of us cannot possibly comprehend
great read stu, depressing as hell, it makes the calls by the rw press, Farage, Badenoch etc to get involved look more insane than ever
I can't see Iran ending as anything other than a complete disaster
I do wonder how Trump's fans will take it- i know at least 2 people who genuinely think hes the saviour of humanity
it's a shame we can't drag the U.S. and park it next to Iran, the trouble with the U.S. is they have never suffered the consequences of bombs and missiles falling on their country
Trump stating to Starmer that this is a war he’s already ‘won’ has the inevitable air of this about it…
Aaaaaaah…. remember those heady days when we all thought it couldn’t possibly get any worse than Dubya?
US naval in Bahrain has been hit again, maybe a fuel tank from the looks of it?
https://bsky.app/profile/osintradar.bsky.social/post/3mglc2kpkk224
A large number of US personnel deaths might change trumps arithmetic, initially he'd downplay it , then get all solemn after a backlash, then blame Hegseth, who will be even more insane , until he gets fired and in turn kicks off
Iran is not randomly doing this they are deliberately targeting the incredibly expensive missile warning systems across the middle east
https://www.newser.com/story/385001/irans-attack-strategy-military-communication-sites.html
more on an the Bahrain explosion
https://bsky.app/profile/antizionistjew.bsky.social/post/3mgldmjfvwd2e
Trump saying Iran bombed that girls school just sums him up. I previously regarded him as just an ignorant arrogant old fool - but feel he is a lot more evil than first thought.
I think he's just a mad sociopath like Boris Johnson, who I note has also been a vocal supporter of the Orange Monkey this week. They lie as easily as they breath and once they've shat the latest lie out of their cavernous gobs, they then expect that load of old bollocks to be taken as the truth by everyone, despite all evidence to the contrary
IMHO They just don’t care, they’ve been doing very well all thru their lives by doing this.
They just carry on as no-one ever holds them to account And it seems there are a lot of people who like them so much that they ‘believe’ in them and don’t care when reality proves otherwise.
It’s all down to them being a cult of personality, both are pretty much media/social media savvy and tv aware (these things being the ultimate creator/crafter of alternative reality) as opposed to being actual thinking/working politicians/human beings.
Your literally going to struggle if you confront/debate their supporters with reality as that isn’t their reality,they’ve gone too deep down the rabbit hole.
I do think that the latest war will probably wake some of them up that they actually see the king is in his altogether.
it's a shame we can't drag the U.S. and park it next to Iran, the trouble with the U.S. is they have never suffered the consequences of bombs and missiles falling on their country
they sort of did in September 2001. They of course won’t make the connection between their foreign policy approaches and terrorism. They must feel very confident in their homeland security to have started this because it feels like one day someone will be seeking vengance.
What kind of psychopath would destroy a desalination plant? Oh yes …
$100 barrel smashed now. Can only see it going one way.
because it feels like one day someone will be seeking vengance.
I think its a certainty. When you have Trump and his like minded idiot Hegseth spouting no more rules of engagement or woke rules to adhere to; when they bomb a girls school and subject millions in Tehran to a toxic hell, then what is going to stop some as mad person on the Iranian side from doing comparable atrocities.
I only hope that the retribution is sought in the USA and Israel - but thats looking very unlikely given how the UK are slifing towards further involvement.
What kind of psychopath would destroy a desalination plant? Oh yes …
Iranians reportedly targeting the same sort of infrastructure in Bahrain. The stuff of war crimes.
When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?
When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?
Indeed.
Ukraine has faced the same dilemma for the past 4 years.
When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?
Hesgeth has already made it plain that he thinks ROE are for losers.
Theres absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it, so its really not worth the worry.
He's an absolute maniac, probably senile, armed to the teeth and surrounded by evangelical christian crusader loons, he's being led around by the nose by a genocidal war criminal and he's decided to go to war against a regime of fundamentalist headbangers who are also armed to the teeth and dream of martyrdom.
I can't think of many situations where the sane and calm voices of reason could have less influence. There are none of those in any positions of power here, thats for sure. So why worry?
Just let them get on with it and maybe nip out on your bike and finish at the pub. Thats what I tend to do. 😀
All we can hope for is that his diet catches up with him and he does an Elvis. It can't be long before he's found, double cheeseburger in hand, unresponsive on a gold plated tiolet
When your attacker makes it clear it's "gloves off"... how do you respond?
You don't stoop to their level
I know I dont have to tell this to people here, who like myself are far traveled, and have met all creeds and colours and know the defining thing is People are People. Same hopes, same dreams
Andrewh's vid above is a good indication of who we are and what we truly stand for.
But there might be someone who isnt and maybe needs a bit of reinforcement, especially in these times of far right populism.
Israel is out of control and Trump cannot stop them!
They will keep bombing to get another Gaza situation.
Looks like Trump's adventures will be stopped by the markets and the oil price. He's looking for an off ramp right now. President Transaction is ruled by the markets not idealogy.
You don't stoop to their level
Tell that to the people of Dresden.
I’m not clicking on that AI video anyway.
The point was that Iran isn’t just going to sit back and have its facilities bombed without countering in a similar fashion.
#INITIAL | A new video may indicate that the explosion nearby a US Naval Base in Manama, Bahrain, occurred due to a technical failure in the American Patriot system.
This is not fully confirmed yet, but an interesting development. updates to follow
Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest! The Americans have form when it comes to ‘blue on blue’ incidents.
See also destroying a girls school causing 175 casualties, because of an AI system using out of date data…
Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest! The Americans have form when it comes to ‘blue on blue’ incidents.
I thought that was down to the different salutes.
The American salute - ' I cant quite see, are they with us ?' and the British, 'Sorry, i can't hear what you're saying'
(from a comic sketch)
TACO Tuesday?
or is he just saying he will stop to calm the markets ?
Whats interesting is that the press were pushing him on his lies about attacking the girls school and he doesn't have an answer
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mgnuzlagkn2p
also hes just an evil moron
https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3mgnwgifetq2q
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mgntdypqtg2y
Looks like Trump's adventures will be stopped by the markets and the oil price. He's looking for an off ramp right now. President Transaction is ruled by the markets not idealogy.
And TBH he’s literally thrown all his toys out the pram, $3.7bn in 100hrs.
But yes he wanted a weeks content for the Trump show and as usual hasn’t thought the implications thru.
Still they’ve got the video footage and soundbites for a few more episodes of the Trump show in the can and tbh a war always gets good ratings and well those midterms , well in light of the current situation and war footing it’s not the time , we need to stand strong against this threat against our democracy.
As soon as people can’t get Gas or the price is insane they won’t be happy but they’ve been infiltrated by domestic terrorists so…….
this os trump admitting they cant defend a 150km stretch of sea https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3mgoxcf737k2j
If anything marginally good comes from Trump's War of Distraction it will show that Kemi and our Nige chose the wrong side. Not sure the UK's right wing media will hold them to task though.
That Bluesky post up there ^^
"rain upon them", not "reign upon them" 🤦♂️
Tosser.
That BlueSky post up there ^^
"rain upon them", not "reign upon them"
Tosser.
TBF, his poor spelling is the least of the world's worries.
Where is the best place to find any news on what is actually happening in Iran?
Israel is out of control and Trump cannot stop them!
Looks like Trump's adventures will be stopped by the markets and the oil price. He's looking for an off ramp right now. President Transaction is ruled by the markets not idealogy.
An off-ramp that doesn't exist.
He should have controlled Israel before this started, "No munitions, no aircraft spares, etc if you attack Iran" and continued diplomatic contact with Iran. That genie is out of the bottle and the Abraham Accords are in greater danger.
A proper diplomatic process was two-thirds of the way there with a pragmatic theocracy in Iran. We know that it was pragmatic because agreement was reached with President Obama. That was torn up by President Trump during Trump v1.0
An Iran unconstrained by international agreement then carried on developing nuclear and missile technology
Trump then demonstrated that he couldn't bomb Iran's nuclear ambition back to zero in the Summer
He doubled down on that by proving what history already told us; that the US has never successfully established regime change. He still has a theocracy in Iran that by all accounts is more hardline and less pragmatic than the previous generation. The Iranian people still aren't in a position to rise up
Trump is now being beaten by market forces and his own fragile balance of democratic power in the US Congress.
He's demonstrated that one of the strongest military forces in the world can no longer be held over Iran to force a reasonable settlement, either diplomatically or militarily.
The US is therefore weakened. Stability in the middle east is weakened while Iran is strengthened and now knows that it can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. It no longer has to engage diplomatically.
Russia has offered to settle things down in the run up to the mid-terms. That will come at a cost to Ukraine; lifting sanctions on Russia, stopping weapons supply to Ukraine, etc.
Trump has two choices IMHO:
- Give up and go home and leave the region to clear his mess up
- Double down on the war and put boots on the ground
What a productive fortnight!
I read editorials on both CNN and Fox News that basically said the same thing. Economic pressure at home will force Trump to step back. American voters famously don't engage with foreign policy but they do really care about fuel costs and stock market performance
Iran has some Tomahawks (Aaron Rupar BlueSky post^^)
Iran has never had Tomahawks (and neither has Israel)
Selected quotes from a linked article suggesting that President Trump is laying the ground for a withdrawal.
His problem is that you can't unilaterally take the off-ramp if the other side doesn't agree
"US President Donald Trump said in a press conference that US and Israeli operations had devastated Iran’s military capabilities, claimed Tehran’s leadership had been effectively removed, and warned of harsher strikes if Iran disrupts oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz."
"Trump also said he had spoken with Russian President Vladimir Putin about both Ukraine and the Middle East, describing the conversation as constructive but offering no sign of a breakthrough."
“(Trump) said, ‘You could be more helpful by getting the Ukraine-Russia war over with.’”
"It was not clear whether Trump’s later remark that Washington may ease oil-related sanctions on some countries also referred to Iran or Russia, or whether Moscow had offered itself as a mediator with Iran in the call. Russia has repeatedly sought relief from oil sanctions imposed over its war against Ukraine."
"Trump’s clearest warning to Tehran on energy came over the Strait of Hormuz, which he said must remain open and secure, “The Strait of Hormuz is going to remain safe… You have to keep the straits flowing.”"
"“We’ve wiped every single force in Iran out very completely… Most of Iran’s naval power has been sunk. It’s on the bottom of the sea… Their missile capability is down to about 10 percent, maybe less.”
Trump added that drone production sites and missile facilities were being hit “one after another,” and said US forces were ahead of schedule.""“If we didn’t knock out their Iranian potential… they would have had a nuclear weapon. They even turned down an offer for unlimited free nuclear fuel forever for civilian purposes.”"
"Trump ended the appearance by insisting the campaign was “winning very decisively,” saying Iran had lost most of its key military tools and warning that renewed aggression would bring even stronger retaliation.
“It’s going to be ended soon. And if it starts up again, they’ll be hit even harder.”"
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/71573
I read editorials on both CNN and Fox News that basically said the same thing. Economic pressure at home will force Trump to step back. American voters famously don't engage with foreign policy but they do really care about fuel costs and stock market performance
TBH it’s not a place that works well without petrol, they’ll literally lose their minds if there’s petrol shortages.
Pete Hegseth has just done a press conference that was WTF?!!-inducing, even by his usual standards.
He basically said that American troops were on a mission from god and then he started reading out biblical scriptures.
Yeah, that’ll play well in the Middle East Pete. Some good, old-fashioned white, Christian crusader ethno-colonialism.
These people are absolutely ****ing hatstand
hopefully the UK media will widely report it - making people think twice before placing their X beside politicians (or their parties) who have blindly followed them. Even the most ardent Christian's I know would find such talk repulsive.Pete Hegseth has just done a press conference that was WTF?!!-inducing, even by his usual standards.
He basically said that American troops were on a mission from god and then he started reading out biblical scriptures.
Yeah, that’ll play well in the Middle East Pete. Some good, old-fashioned white, Christian crusader ethno-colonialism.
These people are absolutely ****ing hatstand
It’s not retaliation if you started it…
I wish there were more people able to call him out publicly on his nonsense.
Where you think people will be working to verify what you're reading. Here's a good start, but also, don't try to keep up to date, it's impossible to be correct like that.
See also
Thanks for that.
I've also had a look at the usual places - BBC news, Al Jazeera. It appears to be very difficult to get 'real' news these days. I am probably showing my age and being very old and grumpy, but 'social media' is a cesspit!
I miss the days of initial internet with forums full of mostly helpful and friendly people...
Cheers!
What's stopping Iran buying a Nuke from elsewhere?
I.e Russia
It maybe a very stupid question....
Oh come on such things aren't available....oh
Whats to stop N Korea from nuking the South?
those 3 $1bn THAAD radars that Iran blew up are hard to replace
https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3mgq5ldswvs25
FORTHWITH!
https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3mgq76lhquc2b
yeah im not so sure its easy to remove mines as it is to deploy them
BEWARE! President DONALD J Trump
Its a bit ****ing late for that
I'd like to know how the Iranians can go about removing any sea mines they might have placed without getting blown out of the water given the yanks are blowing anything Iranian out of the water.
dont worry theyve only got up to 6000 mines, that could shut the straight indefnitately
https://bsky.app/profile/ajs1977.bsky.social/post/3mgq7vmrdy22j
I've also had a look at the usual places - BBC news, Al Jazeera. It appears to be very difficult to get 'real' news these days.
I've noticed there is a distinct lack of footage of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa from all the conventional sources. I assume it's because of some kind of reporting restrictions/agreement.
FORTHWITH
Ideal false flag opportunity.
Blow up stone random vessel and then start attacking Iran again.
I've also had a look at the usual places - BBC news, Al Jazeera. It appears to be very difficult to get 'real' news these days.
I've noticed there is a distinct lack of footage of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa from all the conventional sources. I assume it's because of some kind of reporting restrictions/agreement.
Every BBC News on TV is being copresented from Tel Aviv.....the Israelis were falling over themselves to show damage from Iranian/Hezbollah attacks
I assume it's because of some kind of reporting restrictions/agreement.
It would make sense.
In WWII the British government restricted news about the V1 attacks alongside feeding back deliberately false information via the double cross network which resulted in the Germans undershooting their central london targets and blowing up suburbs instead.
yeah im not so sure its easy to remove mines as it is to deploy them
I am also not sure the "if you plant mines we will attack you" is an effective threat when you have killed a bunch of their leadership and are trying your best to kill the replacements. Its all a bit "if you catch my foot whilst I am kicking you on the ground I will keep kicking you".
I've also had a look at the usual places - BBC news, Al Jazeera. It appears to be very difficult to get 'real' news these days.
I've noticed there is a distinct lack of footage of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa from all the conventional sources. I assume it's because of some kind of reporting restrictions/agreement.
Dubai/UAE/saudi have been censoring any reporting of strikes and warning of reprisals for anyone posting such on social media, meanwhile they are paying $$$$$ for propaganda social media posts from the fat-lipped plastic pigs (aka “influencers”)
And for Israel?
Every BBC News on TV is being copresented from Tel Aviv.....the Israelis were falling over themselves to show damage from Iranian/Hezbollah attacks
Have they!?! The majority I've seen have been from Bahrain and cities in Iraq. When I have specifically searched you get footage from the previous spat or Tehran.
A friend who works in Qatar says less raids now ,but still one or two a day.
They get about 2 or 3 mins notice and then hear a jet shooting it down or a missile.
They are aiming for the US Airbase ( 6 miles away) and pass overhead or nearby.
Every BBC News on TV is being copresented from Tel Aviv.....the Israelis were falling over themselves to show damage from Iranian/Hezbollah attacks
Have they!?! The majority I've seen have been from Bahrain and cities in Iraq. When I have specifically searched you get footage from the previous spat or Tehran.
Yep, sorry, I was completely wrong - after the first few days the Beeb moved everyone out to the Gulf
C4 news is still copresented from Israel. I notice because it always fires a “if they don’t want you reporting from Gaza, don’t report from Israel” alarm in my head.
unfudging the straight of Hormuz is going to be a nightmare, that has huge global implications for inflation, cist of living and populism
the worst part of it is that this vulnerability and Irans intention to do it were no secret
https://bsky.app/profile/covertshores.bsky.social/post/3mgrdwkixi227
trump & Hegseth keep getting mugged by the known knowns ;
such as Iran are good at firing missiles and drones,
the leadership have been preparing for this for years
their critical stuff is deep under the mountains
Hormuz is a global chokepoint
trump & Hegseth keep getting mugged by the known knowns ;
Trump and Hegseth are a little less ignorant and uninformed than the typical Wetherspoons regular spouting how he`d solve world/society problems. Trump/Hegseth advantage is that they have the USA might to contain/mop up their mess for now .. but I`m guessing there will become a saturation point when this breaches.
It does sound as if Iran are making it personal with Trump instead of the general USA. He does have a lot of family if Iran new supreme leader were to go tit-for-tat regarding killed family members.
I’ve been trying to think of who Hegseth reminds me of, then when watching his latest ignorant and insane ramblings yesterday, it came to me
He looks like a non-player character from Grand Theft Auto