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Yup both a raging alcoholic and a religious loon who is a firm believer in militant Christianity and is all about the crusades with a very limited understanding of what it means.
Yeah..I'm not sure he is really up on his history, otherwise he'd know what the outcome of the crusades was..
otherwise he'd know what the outcome of the crusades was..
or itaq, Afghanistan, Vietnam....
Yeah..I'm not sure he is really up on his history, otherwise he'd know what the outcome of the crusades was..
Some were "successful" but this is where we get into history geekery which I happily admit I am subject to despite my shit gcse history teacher.
The Northern crusades were reasonably successful although for obvious reasons overlooked nowadays and the heretic crusades (something I expect hegseth the keg downer would love to repeat) were mixed but again overlooked beyond the "kill them all god will know his own" line.
Trump/Hegseth/Witkoffs refusal to enage with this even though its actually helping Iran kill Americans and destroy $bns worth of their equipment is quite amazing
The bloke has seriously lost the plot now.....
Is that a veiled threat of Nukes or ground invasion?
The world is becoming a seriously f###ed up place to live....
Someone needs to grab the mike off that dangerous idiot.
I just find it incomprehensible that there is no-one inside the Republican Party trying to stop him.
Is that a veiled threat of Nukes or ground invasion?
The world is becoming a seriously f###ed up place to live....
At the very least it is the threat of war crimes surely?
Wonder if anyones going to point out to him Irans been around 6000 years, but my local pub is older than the USA.
Genuine answer from a US guy I work with when I questioned what it would take to leave the Trump Train:
Yeah, but I feel if one of the other party got in there would be much bigger wars going on. This isn't really a proper war.
It's mind blowing how utterly submersed in the cult of this wretch of a man these people are.
Wonder if anyones going to point out to him Irans been around 6000 years, but my local pub is older than the USA.
Seeing as last week one of the MAGA lot was suggesting that native Americans might not automatically have residency rights...they have no concept of 'your place in the world'.
That post..
He's literally just threatened them with genocide.
This is beginning to look like a tipping point at which one on the biggest crimes in history gets enacted. Finding it hard to interact with USAn friends just now !
I just find it incomprehensible that there is no-one inside the Republican Party trying to stop him.
There's a group called Republicans against Trump who are shouting into the void. One member of the senate or Congress, can't remember which, is calling for the 25th amendment and impeachment of Hegseth for war crimes.
The threats against Iran clearly involve war crimes. If the threat is carried out, it has to go to the Hague and warrants be issued. And all support for US bases needs to stop. Preventing aviation fuel into them would be a start.
At the very least it is the threat of war crimes surely?
Who's going to do anything about it though?
Aren't there currently warrants out for Putin and Netanyahu for war crimes?
He's literally just threatened them with genocide.
Again something that Netanyahu has been accused of - but nobody is doing anything.....
Again something that Netanyahu has been accused of - but nobody is doing anything.....
Putin and Netanyahu cannot travel to any country that recognises the ICC, or those warrants will be used. They've been in that position for a few years now.
The ICC doesn't have it's own Police force to enact the warrants, that is the issue.
Putin and Netanyahu cannot travel to any country that recognises the ICC, or those warrants will be used. They've been in that position for a few years now.
But they can travel to the US as good ole USofA does not fully recognise the jurisdiction of the ICC.
Meanwhile, we are still planning to send our Monarch over to give Trump a reacharound with a state visit. What an embarrassment, where is our national backbone?
Meanwhile, we are still planning to send our Monarch over to give Trump a reacharound with a state visit.
Well Starmer still seems to be good with helping the bombing, so not surprise there.
War crimes you say?
Mines are bad, mines should not be used.
Putin and Netanyahu cannot travel to any country that recognises the ICC, or those warrants will be used. They've been in that position for a few years now.
But they can travel to the US as good ole USofA does not fully recognise the jurisdiction of the ICC.
Meanwhile, we are still planning to send our Monarch over to give Trump a reacharound with a state visit. What an embarrassment, where is our national backbone?
meanwhile those judges in the ICC or the likes of Francesca Albanese are under banking sanctions for pointing out the ****ing obvious
Again something that Netanyahu has been accused of - but nobody is doing anything.....
As much as I hate the man, at least he didn't advocate for it on social media! But you are correct, nothing will be done.
I find it mildly amusing that I got a warning and a post removed for posting a link to a video of the guy who plays jack reacher giving a shoe in to a bloke who kicked him off his bike because it was interpreted as advocating violence (no issue either that mod call by the way, it's their forum), yet here we have the most powerful man in the world advocating on social media the unwarranted destruction of an entire country and death of millions of people.
It's nuts how he gets away with this. US democracy is an absolute laughing stock.
Trump has always approached the presidency like a reality TV show. It's all about ratings. As long as everyone is looking at him then he's winning. So there has got to be a decent chance that he is just ramping up the rhetoric so that, at the last minute, he can announce that's he's pulled off his own Cuban missile moment, saved the world from disaster and definitely deserves that Nobel Prize now.
Well, I hope so anyway.
I think most people didn't realise when they read about 'trump's board of peace' that they'd spelt the word 'board' wrong..
I've been a bit busy in the last week and not really kept on top of the news...
So sitrep, just in case I've got the wrong end of the stick....the world is waiting to find out if the 'leader of the free world' is about to follow through tonight on his social media threat to commit a mass war crime on the civilian population of a nation. The same people he has been encouraging to seize power. I'm going to type that again in a different way - a leader of a NATO nation is threatening that "a whole civilisation will die tonight" on social media.
What
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Was this not the very kind of scenario the founding fathers added the second amendment for?
So sitrep, just in case I've got the wrong end of the stick....the world is waiting to find out if the 'leader of the free world' is about to follow through tonight on his social media threat to commit a mass war crime on the civilian population of a nation. The same people he has been encouraging to seize power. I'm going to type that again in a different way - a leader of a NATO nation is threatening that "a whole civilisation will die tonight" on social media.
Holywood have never made this movie, if they did people would say it was too unrealistic.
Are we still allowing US B52s & B1s to take off from UK soil on 'defensive' missions? Surely they've gone well past that point now?
Might be my blind optimism, but maybe if Starmer ended permission for the Americans to use their UK bases for this war, maybe, just maybe, it might bring someone in the US to their senses (not Trump, Vance or Hegseth, obviously) that things have gone too far and they need to take steps to remove Trump. The UK really needs to make it clear that we are having nothing more to do with this. If nothing else, it might score some more points for Starmer.
I wonder if the checks and balances to stop him using nukes even exist anymore? I mean up until a couple of weeks ago I had thought there was no chance. Now, I'm genuinely not sure.
He's clearly absolutely bat shit crazy, with zero grasp on reality. And if he doesn't get his own way who knows what he'll do
So why would you discount it. Who's going to say no, that's insane. Not Congress (I believe they are on holiday and cant be recalled without the say so of his weasle pal), not the lunatic defence sec..hopefully someone in the chain of command still has half a brain.
Are we still allowing US B52s & B1s to take off from UK soil on 'defensive' missions? Surely they've gone well past that point now?
My view too.
Are we still allowing US B52s & B1s to take off from UK soil on 'defensive' missions? Surely they've gone well past that point now?
I've seen unconfirmed reports (Mirror online?) that we've told the US they can't use UK bases for these atracks if they happen, but can't see a proper statement.
The rumours were that the military command had matters in hand after January 6th, but most of those people are now gone. If the batshit moron issues the command to go nuclear, I would hope someone in the chain has the gumption to stop it.
I fear that if he just goes for your run of the mill war crime, the Iranians and the world will not be so lucky.
He won't nuke.
He'll (likely. I hope) climb down and say that the new regime has conceded something or other thanks to his amazing diplomatic skills or he'll bomb the **** out of their infrastructure.
But there won't be any nukes.
UK needs to distant itself as much as possible from Trumps USA.
Iran are not good guys - they enabled Russia when things got tough for them in Ukraine. But Trump appears to be threatening to go as far, if not further, than Putin .. that will mean the USAs previous standing will be gone forever and China taking over very quickly.
But there won't be any nukes.
Until recently I'd have agreed with you, but now I'm not so sure. He is absolutely psychotic and unhinged and no one in the room with him is either inclined to, or has the balls to stop him.
I don't think he will, but I wouldn't rule it out with any certainty. Shit the bed, someone pinch me and wake me up from this fever dream!
It crossed my mind the other day that if Chaz backed out of his visit, or Sadiq said something nasty online about him, that it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he nuked London!
Are we still allowing US B52s & B1s to take off from UK soil on 'defensive' missions? Surely they've gone well past that point now?
If a US plane takes off from UK soil tonight and takes out a desalination plant or a power station that provides the energy for a desalination plant, or a hospital or any other piece of vital civilian infrastructure we will have blood on our hands.
IF he genuinely intends to follow through with his deranged words...
We can't facilitate this.
We can't condone it by sending our 'king' over to give their's a reach around shortly after.
The US needs to stop being considered our ally until they restore sane and reasoned governance.
Until recently I'd have agreed with you, but now I'm not so sure. He is absolutely psychotic and unhinged and no one in the room with him is either inclined to, or has the balls to stop him
The rest in the room are even more unhinged than him.
The purging of generals in the past week
The insane posts on social media and bonkers press conferences
I'm genuinely worried I either don't wake up in the morning because we got nuked overnight or worse I've survived and living in hell on earth. I genuinely think he's going to do the ****ing worst imaginable tonight and I'm scared
There is a suggestion from Frank Gardner on the Beeb that Trump might be threatening to destroy historic artefacts of earlier civilisations. So that would be one lesson learned from the Taliban then.
Given what may transpire later tonight this may be very apt,
The US needs to stop being considered our ally until they restore sane and reasoned governance.
Vance was in Hungary today trying to help Putin and Trumps great mate Orban. Vance once again had less than complimentary things to say about the EU, and added a new thing about Ukraine interfering in the USA elections. There is little if any doubt that Trump and his administration are hostile to the UK, EU and Ukraine.
There won't be nukes.
He may carpet bomb charge island as they've been going after the military bits do presumably air defence or something equally insane but re: nukes I don't think even he's that doolally and genuinely believe the operational command of the military would refuse to do it. I wouldn't pit it past Kegbreath though.
He may carpet bomb charge island
I'm sure Father Ted will die, but it's a price I'm willing to pay.*
*Trump and crews lack of awareness means they may as well bomb a wee rocky island off the Irish coast to achieve his aims.
I don't think even he's that doolally
Say what? He's completely lost his mind. I have no doubt when he said the other day he was talking to an ex president, he was talking to a bust of Abe Lincoln.
If he was your grandad you wouldn't let him drive to the shops, yet he has the keys to the nuclear football
He may carpet bomb charge island
There are reports that Khark island is already being hit.
There is a suggestion from Frank Gardner on the Beeb that Trump might be threatening to destroy historic artefacts of earlier civilisations. So that would be one lesson learned from the Taliban then.
Well he's already started:
B-52 bombetta taken off from RAF Fairfield.
UK is complicit and if it gets attacked then I'd say fair dinkum.
Remember when we used to think Sarah Palin was the benchmark for bonkers Republicans
Veiled threats with the strong hints it's nukes. Where could Trump have got that idea from? Oh yes, his best mate Putin. Same playbook.
Remember when we used to think Sarah Palin was the benchmark for bonkers Republicans
Or "The Goold Old Days" as we now call them
He won't nuke
He’s an absolute ****ing madman! All bets are off as to what the lunatic will and won’t do.
Even a month ago, the idea of an American president using the kind of language we’ve seen in the last couple of days would have been inconceivable. Now? Just another day listening to the unhinged ramblings of an absolute maniac
He won't nuke
I'm not sure exactly how their launch commands work, but Hegseth has fired fifteen generals recently. He's removing people who disagree with him, who stand up to him. Presumably if the person who does the actual launching won't do it he too will be replaced with someone who will
There won't be nukes.
- "Iran must never have nuclear weapons!"
"What are we going to do to prevent that Mr President?"
- "We'll nuke them..."
He wants to use a nuke. Because it would show how powerful he is, and because he enjoys causing suffering.
Am I right in thinking that in the film “Threads”, WW3 kicked off because the Americans nuked Iran?
Yeah..I'm not sure he is really up on his history, otherwise he'd know what the outcome of the crusades was..
Some were "successful" but this is where we get into history geekery which I happily admit I am subject to despite my shit gcse history teacher.
The Northern crusades were reasonably successful although for obvious reasons overlooked nowadays and the heretic crusades (something I expect hegseth the keg downer would love to repeat) were mixed but again overlooked beyond the "kill them all god will know his own" line.
The Knights Templar did well, until they didn't, sort of got piled on by the rest of the europeans,too much money.
An interesting lot and actually more sophisticated than Trump and Hegseth.
Will the officers in charge starting defying orders?
Or the pilots themselves?
A newspaper article.
"Officers in the chain of command are obligated under US and international law not to carry out blatantly unlawful orders"
I did think it odd that ****stan wre giving Trump an off ramp , turne out that the US dictated the statement....
https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3miwpirwmps2n
Am I right in thinking that in the film “Threads”, WW3 kicked off because the Americans nuked Iran?
Probably not immediately but the build up to WW3 will start the moment all victims (if any are still around) are being taken care of.
The entire Muslim world will probably start something to retaliate and the process will be ongoing until they reach Turkey.
Its TACO tuesday
Looks like he's stopped another war then. Wander what he'll be like when he grows up.
Does this mean he gets a Nobel Peace Prize?
Won’t need it. He’s had the FIFA peace prize and the backing of the Easter Bunny.
He has said it will lead to lasting peace in the Middle East so fair play to him. If only we’d known it was so easy!
Say what you like about Trump, he's thorough
lets have a little roll call of what he's achieved:
Burnt all America's bridges with their former European allies
Ensured none of the Gulf States will ever trust America again
Caused economic chaos around the world
Massively enboldened Iran with an even harder line military leadership that can now use the Strait as a tollbooth
And last but not least, of course.... killed loads and loads of people
*slow handclap*
Say what you like about Trump, he's thorough
Dunno about world peace or otherwise but he’s doing wonders for my shares ISA.
2026 investment strategy - Buy shares when Trump threatens the apocalypse. Sell when he chickens out a few days later.
Say what you like about Trump, he's thorough
Dunno about world peace or otherwise but he’s doing wonders for my shares ISA.
2026 investment strategy - Buy shares when Trump threatens the apocalypse. Sell when he chickens out a few days later.
Don't worry about fascism, hold your nose and count the cash.
2026 investment strategy - Buy shares when Trump threatens the apocalypse. Sell when he chickens out a few days later.
this is literally how the TACO acronym got coined!
lets have a little roll call of what he's achieved:
Burnt all America's bridges with their former European allies
Ensured none of the Gulf States will ever trust America again
Caused economic chaos around the world
Massively enboldened Iran with an even harder line military leadership that can now use the Strait as a tollboothAnd last but not least, of course.... killed loads and loads of people
*slow handclap*
Bored of Peace
The exception being that now he's got the ceasefire he was desperately begging for, he'll claim that he singlehandedly stopped the war.
Okay, so the good ol' US of A, have secured a 2 week cease fire with Iran, what about Israel? They still bombing left, right and centre?
Okay, so the good ol' US of A, have secured a 2 week cease fire with Iran, what about Israel? They still bombing left, right and centre?
They're on holiday in Lebanon atm
So Trump threatens Armageddon- TACOS and achieves what? Total capitulation to Irans demands 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️
Master negotiator. Without peer. Deal of the century.
So Trump threatens Armageddon- TACOS and achieves what? Total capitulation to Irans demands 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️
Well, they don't need nukes now I suppose. Trump has allowed them to show the world they can inflict economic damage on a global scale with a few mines and a few drones.
Even Iranians that hate the regime must be wondering if American 'help' is what they really want. America has done exactly what Iran's regime has been saying they would do for 47 years. Trump has likely unified the country and reduced any chance of an uprising.
Well f***** done Trump.
We also have the full economic effects yet to hit us too, even if a ceasefire holds...
Let's not forget the loss of life either. For nothing.
Don't worry about fascism, hold your nose and count the cash.
Get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? Maybe try to lighten up a bit?
Master negotiator. Without peer. Deal of the century.
Yes this is up to at least 100d chess now.
Sadly people who suffer from TDS simply dont understand the subtlety of what he is doing.
Question is whether he will step up another dimension in play and kick things off again because, well, why not?
I’m sure trump will have a huge victory parade and surround himself with all the losers he said joined the military
Don't worry about fascism, hold your nose and count the cash.
Get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? Maybe try to lighten up a bit?
I get out of the wrong side of bed every morning😉
My grinding negativity is what keeps me going.
So just to recap..
8 weeks ago we could use the straight and the Iranian regime hated us
8 weeks later..we can again use the straight, and the Iranian regime still hate us
Have I got that about right? (Ignoring the countless pointless innocent deaths)