[Closed] IOS 11

Mini PSA: crappy iOS 11 "feature"

Since upgrading to iOS 11 I can't Airplay to my Airport Express (hooked up to some speakers via 3.5mm jack). This is a big hairy PITA. What little I can find on the internet suggest AirPlay 2 is not supported in Apple hardware like the Airport Express. Hope I'm wrong.

That is a bummer, I am looking to pick up an airport express and link to speakers as just took a 7 with no headphone jack. Please keep updated!

I have checked my applications in settings but its not an option i can select, does that mean i dont have any apps that run on 32-bit?

I have the same issue.....goes off to check! 😕

Yes I'm on 10.3.3 and selecting apps is not an option, its greyed out!

Ive also seen it's (ios 11) 1.9gb and I only have 630mb spare!

[quote=oikeith ]Mini PSA: crappy iOS 11 "feature"
Since upgrading to iOS 11 I can't Airplay to my Airport Express (hooked up to some speakers via 3.5mm jack). This is a big hairy PITA. What little I can find on the internet suggest AirPlay 2 is not supported in Apple hardware like the Airport Express. Hope I'm wrong.
That is a bummer, I am looking to pick up an airport express and link to speakers as just took a 7 with no headphone jack. Please keep updated!

still works with my old denon Ceol stereo that supports airplay.

here's a fun game: see if you can find the new emoji's touted as part of ios11, there's even 56 of them. cant be that hard right?

Still no Scottish flag. It's a Unionist conspiracy, I tell you.

Please keep updated

Been in touch with Apple. Despite being very helpful, they couldn't resolve it and it's gone to the engineering team. During the troubleshooting process I've lost Airplay facility to ALL my devices, as opposed to just the Airport Express, so even less happy now 🙁 My phone doesn't even see my Apple TV now or my hi-fi, never mind the Airport Express!

On a positive note, their support is very good and I hadn't expected this much attention from them.

Ive also seen it's (ios 11)

I'm guessing the upgrade to iOS11 automatically removes those apps?

I think the idea was you check [i]before[/i] you upgrade.

It doesn’t. I checked afterwards.

I'm confused. I thought the motivation was that they were ditching support for 32 bit apps to cut down on the number of libraries loaded etc? So if it doesn't remove those apps then how do they still function after the upgrade?

And how do you get a list of the offending apps after the upgrade?

Well, bugger me. I don't know whether Apple are now Apple to do "over the air" patches, but my Airplay devices have magically reappeared, including the Airport Express that went missing immediately after the iOS11 update. I've not touched my iPhone or fiddled with my network since talking to Apple about this, but somehow it's working again. That's weird. Good, but weird.

Having played a little more since last nights update, I've found the Notifications swipe down from the main screen has been replaced by an Auto Phone Lock feature.. which I think is a step in the right direction, can't honestly remember the last time i used the Notification thingumybob...
So from your main screen hit the Home button and the Phone will unlock, then just scroll down form the top of the screen to lock it... replacing hitting the on/off buuuutoooonnn.

nickhit3 - Member

where are you seeing them? cant find them.

Ok..
Create a message
Hit the A (AppStore Icon)
Once done a load of animated Gifs appear and a menu at the bottom of the popup giving you options to upload a pic from Photos or Imgur(in my case, but sure another Photo storage Icon will be there for your preferred Photos) an AppStore Icon (for Apps) iTunes (for uploading music) and the HeartTwoFinger free hand tool also..

Yay for animated Gifs !!

bikebouy: yep, I have that in iOS10 ?

Hit the A (AppStore Icon)
Once done a load of animated Gifs appear and a menu at the bottom

nope. its a link to visit the store "to add stickers etc" it says.. so i have to download some third party PAID emoji pack? that's not intuitive and or 'baked in' to the OS as everyone and their mother suggests is the case..

Am i being unreasonable to suggest the 'new emoji's' should just be under the smiley emoji tab on the keyboard?

Something (unless I never noticed before) that has changed is the regular phone functions (mute, keypad etc.) are available when you are on the phone for a while and the screen locks.
RM.

nope. its a link to visit the store "to add stickers etc" it says.. so i have to download some third party PAID emoji pack? that's not intuitive and or 'baked in' to the OS as everyone and their mother suggests is the case..

Is this what you mean bikebouy? (shown here in iOS 10)

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Also, apparently my dinner is ready. Back in a bit.

When you get to this point, at the very bottom of the screen you should have a few option icons - the 'A' symbol for App Store bits, then the Digital Touch Icon, then the Image Search Icon?
RM.

yep. got that. nothing suggests or contains any new emojis. Is this a new 'capability'to host animated emoji's for the first time OR something that is actually shipping with ios11? Thers a million articles about all these new emojis dating back to the early beta days but... not one explains where they are, if they exist, and how to use them? I expected to find them as an addition to the traditional emoji's which you know, seemed reasonable, given all the sodding talk about them. If this is just a new way to download pointless animated fluff for my messages, like a paid sticker pack etc then... that's not really what is being suggested in the media. They're not there... Are they coming in a further update?

Who knows, but you seem rather miffed about it.

I think they're cool, the Mrs's is already annoyed by the sheer number and ferocity that I'm using them..

So thats a winner.

I don't remember them being on IOS 10, so they're new to me.

Are you talking about AR gifs?

Who knows, but you seem rather miffed about it.

? I don't actually give two shits, but I'm just confused based on the coverage about them - you just said yourself you're using them, but aren't explaining how? that's all I'm asking. Your instructions don't point to anything that contains emojis other than the app store. did you have to download them or find them there waiting to be used?

not talking about AR gifs no. Just animated emojis. The ones you are apparently using.

They are just there.. I found them easy to find because once a message is being created they appear at the bottom of the screen.. As GrahamS posted.

Unless you are thinking about the AR aspect ?? If so I've not found that yet.

Is this a new 'capability'to host animated emoji's for the first time OR something that is actually shipping with ios11?

Do you mean the ability to animate an emoji with your facial expressions?

That's an iPhone X only feature as it needs the FaceID camera to do the face-mapping*

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* (well that's Apple's story anyway. My old Logitech webcam was doing face overlays years ago and some of the face-swap apps seem to manage it just fine too)

Having same issue with lack of animated emojis (not fussed, just thought I’d look after reading this thread) I upgraded me iPad last yesterday.... My phone still on the old one at the moment

Do you mean the ability to animate an emoji with your facial expressions?

That's an iPhone X only feature as it needs the FaceID camera to do the face-mapping*

no, its ANY animated emoji - not the iphone10 ones which indeed need the fancy cams. I have never seen an animated emoji in ios9/10/11. yet im told they exist. Infact every single piece written about ios11 highlights new 'animated emojis' Bikebouy up there claims he's using them even..!

I've not seen or found them. They don't appear as any option when creating a message as far as i can see. My message tray/keyboard is the same largely as it always has been in 9/10 when typing in ios11.

Same here (Apart from fact I didn’t know anything about them until now )

And, as we’re talking about such things..... Any way to type notes on ‘notes’ on my iPad and for them to sync and appear on ‘notes’ on my phone? Thought it would just happen. Obviously not a huge issue for me as had iPhone a year now and not googled the issue

Any way to type notes on ‘notes’ on my iPad and for them to sync and appear on ‘notes’ on my phone?

Just happens if you have it set to sync Notes on iCloud.

Don't know about iOS11, but in iOS10 it was in Settings->Apple ID->iCloud and tick Notes.

In the Notes app you can take a step back and see different folders under "iCloud" and "On My iPhone", anything under iCloud should sync automagically.

Wait. We have animated emojis? 8)

if... you can find them. They’re like a less useful A Team.

Haha!

And thanks G

Well. I know the latest emojis are coming in the next .1 update, and there is no animated emojis in 11 or incoming updates.

So, do tell me what the bliimin ek I'm seeing and using then?

^^^ that was my next question... lol

can you post any screenshots Bikebouy?

Bikebouy has discovered adding GIF images to Messages.
Standard Emojis are not animated.
Animoji's are a 'feature' of the iPhone X only.
RM.

I guessing either gifs or stickers which have been tucked under the app store icon in ios10 and are more obvious at the bottom of the screen in ios11

He sings, he dances...

He’s in that animated gifs in messenger ...

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So, if I’m not seeing animated gifs you are going to have to tell me what it is I’m seeing.. and GrahamS because he posted what I see too...

So, do tell me what the bliimin ek I'm seeing and using then?

Stickers/gifs maybe? They were in previous versions, but are featured more prominently now. You may be noticing them for the first time.

Yes, gifs. Not emojis

As you were everyone

Can anyone tell me if its possible to sync photos from different Apple IDS to one location on my Windows PC, I have Icloud photo installed on the laptop but only my photos go into there as its my Apple ID, can I add the wifes and sons in there too?

Can anyone tell me if its possible to sync photos from different Apple IDS to one location on my Windows PC

Awe... so you are saying all this time Snoopy has been singing and dancing and hidden away .. all... this ... time ....?

I feel so sad, all that wasted effort for all those years..

Still... I’ve found him now ain’t i.

I’m going to wear him oooot.

Ok, s’mebbies I got my emoji/animated gifs mixed up a little. I’m not proud enough to apologise so sorry folks.. my bad... but I did make it on the list as a “good guy”

So..
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smh

Can anyone tell me if its possible to sync photos from different Apple IDS to one location on my Windows PC, I have Icloud photo installed on the laptop but only my photos go into there as its my Apple ID, can I add the wifes and sons in there too?

Ok, s’mebbies I got my emoji/animated gifs mixed up a little. I’m not proud enough to apologise so sorry folks.. my bad

You sound miffed.

I'm confused. I thought the motivation was that they were ditching support for 32 bit apps to cut down on the number of libraries loaded etc? So if it doesn't remove those apps then how do they still function after the upgrade?

I think you’ve confused yourself. Why would it remove them? No idea if they still worked as I’ve removed them since, all 2 of them.

And how do you get a list of the offending apps after the upgrade?

The same way.

I think you’ve confused yourself. Why would it remove them? No idea if they still worked

Because, if the explanation of them no longer supporting 32-bit apps is correct, then the 32-bit apps wouldn't work after the upgrade.

The same way.

Folk above don't seem to be able to access that list in iOS11.
What happen when the list is empty - can you still get to the list or is it greyed out?

Because, if the explanation of them no longer supporting 32-bit apps is correct, then the 32-bit apps wouldn't work after the upgrade

But the author may upgrade them.

Folk above don't seem to be able to access that list in iOS11.

I couldn’t access it with my work phone in 10.3.3

What happen when the list is empty - can you still get to the list or is it greyed out?

Just tested, I have an empty list.

You may have noticed earlier that I said I had about 630mb of free memory and the update was 1.2gb, so didn't think I could update.

Well...I thought I'd give it a whirl and it said it would delete 18 apps and reinstate after the update, so went for it.

Now, the phone has all its apps back and working normally and I have 4.21gb of free memory! WTF???

Yup it has some clever stuff for storing things in iCloud apparently.

Nice little feature is the ability to take a screenshot (not new), but then immediately be able to annotate, edit and mark it up (new). Might be helpful for explaining "how to" on here 😉

Nice little feature is the ability to take a screenshot (not new), but then immediately be able to annotate, edit and mark it up (new). Might be helpful for explaining "how to" on here

Yeah, I found that by accident, which is how I seem to find most "features" these days. It is quite nice.

Yup it’s nifty as is the screen video record feature.

I appear to have switched on VPN. 😕

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

[quote=deadlydarcy ]I appear to have switched on VPN.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

depends who's VPN you are connected to.

OK , so I have the do not disturb feature working as soon as the phone connects to the car by Bluetooth. That bit works fine.

However , when I play some music from the phone in the car , the remote control on my Apple Watch fires up offering a distraction that was not their in iOS10 .

Any idea how to stop this ?

Had mixed experiences with Do Not Disturb whilst driving. It seems to disable some of Siri's interactions. For instance I can still invoke Siri and say "navigate home", but the map doesn't open. To use the map you have to unlock the phone and do it all manually, which seems to defeat the purpose of DND whilst driving. Need to experiment some more. Might be doing something wrong. I like the idea.

[s]Since upgrading my phone I can’t turn the alert/ringer volume up and down with the rocker button, it just changes speaker volume even though no media is being used[/s]

Ignore, found where to sort this.

Not sure if it is the same on iOS 11, but on 10 I'd say check Settings->Sounds and makes sure Change with Buttons was On.

Definte charging issues with our iPads (mini and air2) - left on charge overnight but found totally flat and shut down in the morning. A search of developer forums shows this was a known issue during beta testing.

@Drac how is the screen video recording done?

settings > control center > customise controls > add screen recording

Then just swipe up and hit the screen recording button.

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You get a three second countdown to give you time to get to the thing you want to record, but can also trim the final video as usual. Press the red bar at the top of the screen to stop.

Settings->Control Centre->Customise Controls

Here you can add Screen Recording to Conttol Centre shortcuts. Press on it and it gives you a 3-2-1 countdown. Tap on top of screen to stop recording.

Right then, a question. I've added IOS 11 to my iPad Pro, all seems well so far, just 1 think annoys me.
The bar at the bottom of the home screen that you put the 5 or 6 most used apps (not idea what it's called) now seems to add recently used apps to itself. This annoys me, any way of disabling this so it's only the apps I have chosen to be there?

I'm confused Jamie. Could you post a video of that...? 😉

@ lunge. Yes, untick the recent apps setting in the dock section of the settings app.

Yeah the Apps in the Bar thingy was damn annoying.. I did ^^^ that it’s a simple task.

I'll add my tuppence worth from a work/heavy user of iPad Pro (12.9)

drag and drop is fabulous

'files' is fantastic, esp as use macs as main computer, all files accesible now on ipad, really good (icloud drive, one drive, drop box all in one place)

'drag up' for apps/control centre etc is very good, though will have to learn to stop double clicking on home button (i like this new feature as when reading in bed at night I frequently trigger siri by mistake when double clicking, much to wife's annoyance)

Only thing I do not like is new process to invoke split view, it requires too many steps compared to previous simple flick from right of screen, and changing app in split view is also slower.

Having been using it now nearly a week .... not running smoothly really. App Store app keeps refreshing screen and hanging, two iPads have both run battery down to zero overnight when connected to their chargers - seems this was a known problem in the beta. Battery life on my 6 is definitely worse.

Do you have any way of checking your chargers or USB cables jamba?

I have one of these which is really useful for diagnosing if the cable or charger has gone bad:

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http://amzn.eu/31ZYvdg

Kinda damning that it coincides with the iOS11 upgrade but perhaps iOS11 is more sensitive to dodgy charger power than previous versions?

IME Apple chargers are pretty bombproof but their cables are utter crap. Third-party chargers die regularly, but some of the third-party cables are good quality.

I don’t but its two different chargers and (Anker) cables plus an Anker external battery pack with an Apple cable and two different iPads. All that and a known fault reported on beta test forums. I have an iPhone since the 3G and always update iOS immediately, am a bit of a fanboi but 11 is by far the worst update ime for problems. The wife is so p.ssed off she asked me not to update her MBP to High Sierra yesterday despite me saying that would be different/unrelated. She is happy her iPhone 5 is not supported by 11

Hmmm.. that does sound pretty damning. 🙁 Odd coincidence that you are seeing it on two different iPads if it is a rare event though. Suggests there might be some other factor at play. Maybe it depends what apps are installed?

You could try a full backup (in iTunes) followed by a factory reset (without restore) just to see if it still has the problem after that.

Restore I can do next week when my have access to my Mac Mini. First update I have had serious issues with but imo it’s definiteiy iOS11

I too use the file storage/access now, having used “file manager” app for years.

I hold a lot of documents on my 6s and it’s where most of my storage goes, the new iCloud file manager is brilliant because I can now delete duplicates held on my phone.. 😀
However, the other day I needed to send an attachment and was totally confused as to where my files were, I was seeing stuff on my MacAir and going “grrrr, where are my local files on my 6s you gits!!!”
Then I scrolled around and found em’ 😆

but imo it’s definiteiy iOS11

Yeah, I agree. What I was trying to say was that it seems likely it is [i]"iOS11 + something-else"[/i] because you've been hit on two different iPads by an issue that (presumably) most people on iOS11 don't have.

My PadAirs fine..

Is it isolated to models or all iPads ?

Don’t know. Wife’s Mini is 4 years old shut down today on 30% battery - onto charger and after 5 mins shows 50% - she is not impressed. My Air2 is 2.5 / 3 years old. You get an error messagr in the top bar and then I think the screen stays on which is what drains the battery overnight. Like most people phones and ipads are charged overight, they conenct and start charging fine. Doesn’t happen evey time

2 things are bugging me that hopefully you may have an answer for. You swipe up to get to control centre but swipe down doesnt get rid of it so you have to use the home button which then brings accidentally activating siri back in to play. 2nd thing is when you use control centre on you home pages you also see all the apps in the background which just makes the controls harder to distinguish,any ideas?

Swiping down does work

Just touch the screen above the control centre

Swipe down doesnt work for me, it just keeps pulling down notifications. This is on an ipad mini 4,do you have to do it from a particular place (above control centre does not work).

just makes the controls harder to distinguish,any ideas?

In iOS10 you could go to Settings->General->Accessibility->Increase Contrast and turn on "Reduce Transparency" - probably something similar for iOS11?

@bkader - just touch a blank part of the wcreen. No need to swipe anywhere

1 iPhone 6, 6+, 6s, 7 and iPad Pro in our house and had no battery issues. I’d even say the 7 is actually better.

I’ve had the App Store search cycle a couple of times, always when clicking a link to from an eternal source the the app.