Is parking like this legal? What can I do to get the repeat offender to stop without a confrontation? He knows where I live as it's right outside my house.
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Nope. He's blocking the pavement. You could ask the local authority to send traffic wardens on patrol down there if it's a regular thing - doesn't necessarily have to look like you've done it.
Kettles on.
Was he driving across the corner of your grass verge too?
Post it up on parked like a c-bomb .com
What can I do to get the repeat offender to stop without a confrontation
Talk to him politely?
I feel your pain. We have a large footpath right outside our door that people think is a parking space. This is despite the fact that it's a footpath and there are double yellow lines on the road. The council have been utterly useless when approached.
I either accidently hit the vehicle with my bike whilst trying to get it in or out of the house. Works best if they are sat in the car at the time.
Sit on the bonnet as they've provided me with useful seating.
If, like last night, some utter cockwomble is sat with the engine running, music blaring, listening to the football, conducting a hands-free conversation (delete as applicable). I sneak around the side of my house come up from behind and bang on the window loudly.
The rotund fella listening to the football last night almost died of shock. When I calmly explained he was less than a foot from my house, directly under my kids bedroom he looked sheepish. I then asked him if he thought listening to the game whilst illegally parked that close to my house was reasonable. He muttered something and drove off.
I think you'll find being reasonable doesn't really work on people who do this sort of thing. Shock and shame or making a hash of getting around the badly parked vehicle are the way forward 😀
Kettles on.
What are they on?
(Getting the pedantry in early)
Will a shopping trolley fit past in the gap between the wall and the van??
Give it a good run up with a trolley.
If you get wedged between the van and the wall then yes.. thats very inconsiderate parking. If it makes it through with just a few big scrapes down the side of the van then its only quite inconsiderate parking.
Cloudnine, you have my respect sir (or madame). I'm going to add 'getting shopping trolley in and out of house' to my list!
Highway obstruction which is a police matter, not one for local civil enforcement officers. You may however, struggle to convince the police of this as most assume that the local authority do all parking matters and their own policies may still make them very resistant to attending.
Local authority need a traffic regulation order to enforce against or, depending on the authority, may issue a pcn against an obstructed dropped kerb with the owners countersigning their notebook. It doesn't look like either of those apply.
One for the non emergency number and be prepared to press the issue if you want any action.
Talk to him politely
Lol, yeah, cos yer average white van man will be utterly thrilled and delighted to listen to your concerns!.... 😆
Potato in the exhaust, works for me every time.
Funkmasterp, feel free to remind the local authority that they have the powers to enforce the "no waiting at anytime" tro (double yellow lines) which apply from the centre of the carriageway to the back of the footway.
Fit some bar ends.
Talk to him politely
The time for talking is over. Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit him hard and hit him fast with a major, and I mean [b]major[/b], leaflet campaign, and while he's reeling from that, we'd follow up with a whist drive, a car boot sale, some street theatre and possibly even some benefit concerts. OK?
Now, if that's not enough, I'm sorry, it's time for the T-shirts
Who's that dick on this forum who smacks cars with his door if they park too close...?
Him. You need him...The Car Equalizer. Small Woodwood or something...
We live on a very narrow windy street, it's double yellowed all the way mainly to allow passage for emergency vehicles if required. The church at the bottom of the hill has a congregation that is clearly colour blind and who enjoy parking all over the place. Several cars clipped recently and irate people at my door asking if I saw it, Xmas is always special. People running late for carol concerts are my personal fave. One parked last year so badly there was no way past. Unless you are a angry white courier van, I heard that one ! I was accused of seeing it which was an interesting conversation. The sense of entitlement was epic. My neighbour had someone across his driveway, the vicar had to find out who it was as he needed out - he's a surgeon and was on call !!!
Anyway, p1sses me off, not too much but irritating.
Onzadog - would providing photos to them be of any use. We've actually considered moving, offering to buy part of the path or pay for posts / bollards putting up. Depending on what mood I'm in its either an opportunity for devilment or a serious annoyance.
Sorry for the hijack op
I was accused of seeing it
How dare you have functioning vision! 🙂
Like others have said, it's a footpath so parking on it is illegal.
However, getting someone to enforce it might be tricky as the problem is just so common. It doesn't look as though he's left enough room for a pushchair, etc so dangerous and inconsiderate as well as illegal.
the reality is these days in many areas it difficult /impossible to park all the cars legally
IN this scenario whatever you do [ bar physical barrier] someone will park on the pavement
The only time i ever said anything was when my neighbour parked a massive van outside my window as it blocked the light when he parked it in front of his
Yes its annoying but i think we ll best just get used to it
FWIW i think I am the only one in my street who never does it as we can park two streets away which is as much as a 45 second walk away
Get his mobile number and write "I love bum fun" along with the number on the back. Or sprinkle the roof and bonnet with bread. Bird poo all over it.. 🙂
You have two options. One, ask him to move, if he gets confrontational then square up to him and be prepared to escalate things quickly. Two, ignore it.
Kettles on.
What are they on?
excellent STW ped post there, I'll add a minimum STW requirement 'kettle's on', or find another forum to frequent please.
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Don't get me started on 'inconsiderate parking'
What about the absolute arsewomble of a Chelsea Tractor driver who parked his shiny, spotless, fat wheeled Range Rover in 2 bays at a recent concert at The Sage in Gateshead?
He may or may not have been worth a bob or 3 but I bet he didn't pay for 2 tickets! If i could've got nearer I would've smashed my doors off his. (not really but, ya know)
See You Next Tuesday!
Door smashing is the future.
People regularly park with two wheels on the path down my road, but the dick with the Beemer, and it just [i]had[/i] to be a Beemer, and the sense of entitlement with its own postcode who parked like this just took the sodding biscuit!
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Just noticed the bloody van half on the path on the opposite side of the road!
The two vehicles behind the van look like they are blocking the path as well. How wide is the road?
The second photo with the BMW has no excuse.
I used to live in a permit parking area where the council had issued over 600 permits with only around 450 spaces. The nearest street for me was narrow enough that the cars on one side had to park partially on the pavement which was not very wide itself. I've still got a scratch on my wing from when someone took umbrage. Luckily it wasn't much of a thoroughfare or I think my car would be like an art piece.
Potato in the exhaust, works for me every time.
What does that actually do?
What are they on?
The power base it came with?
CaptainFlashheart - MemberKettles on.
What are they on?
(Getting the pedantry in early)
Pedantry fail. Matt is an instructor by trade and therefore quite entitled to instruct forum members to switch their kettles on so we've all got a cup of tea while settling down to watch the thread unfold.
Is parking like this legal? What can I do to get the repeat offender to stop without a confrontation? He knows where I live as it's right outside my house.
At risk of a flaming here, but what are you upset about ? The van being parked on the pavement or because it's outside your house ? I.e if he was parked like this further up the road , would you still be upset about it ?
I used to live on a road that if you parked like that more than once you'd be buying 4 new tires....
I never had to cause I'm nae a **** but saw several irate folks on a Sunday morning . Vigalante justice certainly seemed to sort it out quickly.
Matt is an instructor by trade and therefore quite entitled to instruct forum members to switch their kettles on
Surely that sort of stentorian tone is more sergeant major than instructor?
Where I take the dog a walk nearly everyone parks halfway up the pavement (only is pavement on one side of the road) but when there are cars coming in opposite directions one car still has to stop as the road is not wide enough for 2 cars to pass , which begs the question why.
Read the complete works of Lee Child on completion become Jack Reacher, leave home and get on a bus to anywhere, get of at somewhere and mooch about, find a cheap hotel, get burger and chips and mooch about some more, find some disagreeable local oafs and leather them. Once you are happy that you are now a cool silent steely eyed malevolent dealer of justice return home and confront the parking knob, give him the option to change his parking habits or suffer the inevitable.
Let us know how you get on.
If the van was completely on the road what room would there be for cars?
unfortunatly outside of london pavement parking is not an offense unless causing an obstruction.
If the van was completely on the road what room would there be for cars?
Huh why is this a question. If there's no room in the road to park....You park else where not o. The bloody pavement .
It absolutely boils my piss too. I'll have to get a photo of this absolutely tosser in me mates street and his work van.. it's making my angry just writing this and I don't even live there! Basically think of that Beemer on the previous page but the path is a foot narrower. I don't know what he thinks will happen to his precious van if he parks it reasonably, the dickhead. I can't even get started on the prize theobber round the corner running a business from his house.. 3 vans and a pickup with lads coming to get them in the morning and leaving their cars littered about all day. Cheeky bar steward.
Surely that sort of stentorian tone is more sergeant major than instructor?
Dunno, I don't pay attention to anyone who tells me what to do, so I'm not too clued up on that sort of thing.
a whist drive
You sick, twisted man. Tee shirt ordered.
In the OPs photo the cars further down that are presumably sticking out the end of the drive are completely blocking the path by the look of it. They're not your cars are they OP?
I can see how its annoying if it's outside your house but if there is enough room to get a wheelchair / pushchair past is it really a issue? Would it be an issue if it was a Golf and not a Transit van? The BMW in the other photo is much worse, I would report that.
Wow, that filled up quickly!
OK, some answers and a bit more background.
NoWas he driving across the corner of your grass verge too?
Because it's my house, obvs.At risk of a flaming here, but what are you upset about ? The van being parked on the pavement or because it's outside your house ? I.e if he was parked like this further up the road , would you still be upset about it ?
Yes.If the van was completely on the road what room would there be for cars?
Wide enough.How wide is the road?
I live in a medium sized village, not a town, 1 pub, 1 shop, a primary school. My house is next door to the village hall and opposite the school, it is the hall carpark overflowing that you can see just beyond the white van.
The hall isn't used every night of the week but is used regularly on Sundays and Tuesdays and this is when the parking is annoying. This van isn't the only offender, there are frequently 3 or 4 parked like this.
Before I challenge anyone or speak to the hall committee I wanted to know what the law says about such parking AND see if others agree it is inconsiderate.
Thanks for your input, especially the amusing ones. Have the kettles boiled yet? 😀
So..... if the van was parked fully on the road....outside your house ....then you wouldn't have a problem ?
Although parking is generally permitted at the side of the road, except where there are restrictions or a specific offence has been committed, driving actually onto the pavement or footway (to park or otherwise) is an offence under section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 (see also section 28 of the Town Police Clauses Act
Huh why is this a question. If there's no room in the road to park....You park else where not o. The bloody pavement .
I agree with you TR but IMO there is a sliding scale of idiocy on this. If the road is narrow and people put 2 wheels on a kerb and this allows pedestrians to pass that is slightly acceptable in my book but you are right if they need to block a walkway causing an inconvenience then there is no place in Hell hot enough. Its really those that see pavements as private parking spaces that wind me up, blocking them totally or parking on them when the road is wide etc.
I tend to take the shopping trolley approach as above but use my elbows as I run past, often get several in a row.
My dad's street has cars pavement-parked nose to tail all the way down on both sides, meaning anyone with a pushchair or wheelchair has to walk down the road, and all the paving slabs are broken and loose. When I was growing up there, each house had one car if at all - now with many houses split into flats, both partners having a car plus their grown-up kids... not sure what you can do about that.
Call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit him hard and hit him fast with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign,
I think we're losing sight of the real issue here, which is, what are we going to call ourselves?
Because it's my house, obvs.
The space outside your house is a public road, you don't own it. They're entitled to park there. Object to the pavement parking by all means, but if this is your primary objection you're going to get a STW Self Righteous Mauling™.
Although parking is generally permitted at the side of the road, except where there are restrictions or a specific offence has been committed, driving actually onto the pavement or footway (to park or otherwise) is an offence under section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 (see also section 28 of the Town Police Clauses Act
Why does London have a specific bylaw prohibiting parking on the kerb / footpath if it's already illegal, then?
If people with pushchairs/wheelchairs/mobility scooters can't get past just report it to non emergency police number to deal with - or knock on people's door with a polite request - go equipped with a blow torch....
revs1972 - Member
So..... if the van was parked fully on the road....outside your house ....then you wouldn't have a problem ?
Well it would be annoying but nothing I can do, I've parked outside other people's houses many times but I don't block the pavement. The fact it is a commercial vehicle rather than a car is also a source of annoyance but nothing I can do about that.
My late sister used a mobility scooter and whenever she found cars parked on the pavement she used to take great delight in scraping all along their nearsides while muttering "Serves 'em effin' right!" I used to cringe and pretend I wasn't with her. Poor girl didn't have much joy in her life.
My neighbours across the road, who have a driveway that fits 3 cars regularly, at least 3 times a week, park their car part on the pavement and part on the road opposite our driveway. The driveways are staggered so our drive faces the front of their house and their driveway is down a bit opposite the neighbours house.
We have a driveway that's fits 2 cars side by side, when they park their car opposite our drive it makes it a total pain to get the car in the 2nd space in the drive, as to get in first time you need to swing in from as close to the nearside kerb as possible, with their car there we can't do this.
Our son has also recently passed his driving test and having a car opposite the drive isn't the best idea when he's not used to reversing up a sloping drive.
To me its a monumentally stupid place to park, just use your ****ing driveway for ****s sake you inconsiderate ****.
I park partially on the pavement at home (not blocking anything, it's a wide pavement and you could easily get a double width buggy past).
I avoided doing it for, oh, a quarter of a century despite everyone else doing so as it didn't seem really necessary and I didn't agree with it. Then last year there was an accident on my street which bounced into the side of my car; had I not have been stuck out a foot further than everyone else they'd probably have missed me. I started parking like everyone else after that.
Not that it did me any good. I came out to go to work a couple of weeks ago to find that someone had taken the side of my car off overnight. Judging by the damage I'm guessing a truck had misjudged it, looked like someone had gone at it with a can-opener. I had to use a claw hammer to dig out the bodywork so that it could be moved onto a low-loader. (If you ever have to do this, wear gloves, torn metal is sharp. By the time I'd finished my hands looked like I'd been juggling kittens.)
I realise that this issue is a serious one for the op., however I have really cried laughing at flashy's 'whist drive, carboot sale etc' post. 😀
The answer is to have a friendly word. Some people honestly have no idea they are inconsiderate, selfish and breaking the law.
I realise that this issue is a serious one for the op., however I have really cried laughing at flashy's 'whist drive, carboot sale etc' post
It's from Red Dwarf's "Polymorph." An alien removes emotions from the crew. The full scene is here:
If people hate cars being parked everywhere, then maybe you should all stop buying freaking cars! 😛
Our son has also recently passed his driving test and having a car opposite the drive isn't the best idea when he's not used to reversing up a sloping drive.
Send son over to neighbours asking them to not park there as he's a new driver and worried he'll reverse into them?
It's what I did when my neighbours started doing that, except replace 'son' with 'me' and 'new driver' with 'crap driver', did the trick.