[Closed] important zombie question.

How many stories are we talking?

I reckon that's quite a lot of force involved.I'd not want to be the "friend" personally. 🙂

And how are you going to throw it off a car-park without it biting you anyway?

I'm not sure you've thought this through...

I understand where your forum name comes from, thinking up Nutty questions. (do you like snickers bars)

if, say, a friend, was going to, say, drop a zombie from the top floor of a multistory car park on to their "friend" below;

I'd say keep looking up as the friend of your friend in question could be you.

[i]And how are you going to throw it off a car-park without it biting you anyway?

I'm not sure you've thought this through...[/i]

He's going to use one of his superhero skills obviously (probably Hessian sack power).
Like Duh!

I'd say its probably about 7 stories high, and BD I'd guess my friend would use the old faithful but sadly underused Hessian sack trick(tm)

And anyway, suppose you're hit, from high above, by a falling, largely putrefied, zombie. Assuming it just liquefies on impact and there's no issue of it crushing you or snapping your spine like a twig, you're going to have rotting zombie-fluids getting into the mouth, nose, eyes and basically covering you. There's no way in hell you're not going to be seriously at risk of zombie plague.

I don't think this is the sort of thing "friends" do to one another at all.

My surname is Marathon actually.

This isn't punishment for being naked in a communal changing area is it?

Are you going to look at it's thingy?

Are we talking "day of dead" Zombies, or "28 days later" zombies?

Shufflers or runners....

good point BD, I'll advise my friend against this course of action, and yes, it could potentially be.

it'd sh*t me up if they were runners 😯

nickc now don't judge others by your behavior, some of us are more than capable of dealing with the undead without having to inspect their nether regions.

logistical nightmare. does your friend stand in that spot regularly? is the zombie ok with being in an NCP run establishment? is it expected to fall cleanly or with an arc?

I was always under the impression tat if a zombie bit you then you "turned". With this i mind, it is obviously something carried in the saliva of a zombie that has the "turning" effect. Given that saliva is constantly produced by the glands in the mouth, either these glands will have had to mutate or the infection is systemic (most likely) in which case the risk of infection would spread to the whole of the zombie, thus contact with any secretion from a zombie would risk infection to your "friend"

Obviously, human skin provides a good barrier against foreign body absorbtion, and though some chemicals can cross the skin tissue into the circulatory system this does take a long period of time (though something its worth considering if one of your group has been say, touched by or sneezed on by a zombie prior to securing yourself in a locked "safe" house. You'd probably be looking at 24-36 hours post contact for symptoms to begin to show?).

The main consideration here in the case study you have presented is, is the putrification caused by the force of air pushing against the body of the zombie as it is in free fall, or is it caused a the body hits a hard surface (your "friend"). The Zombie achieved liquid state prior to contact with your "friend" then I would expect total covering with "zombie goo" but no immediate death through traumatic injury or infection, however, as discussed above, they may need to be cleaned immediately to prevent contraction though the skin. Also, it is important to consider the risk of infection through other orifices or mucous membranes (eyes/ears/mouth/nose/ open wounds etc), If the putrification occurs as a result of the contact then I would assume that the force of an adult male zombie, at say 85kg would be enough to cause severe traumatic injury to your "friend" and also expose them to risk of infection through injuries caused by broken bones (both theirs and the zombies) poking through damaged limbs, increased blood loss from both parties and exposure to large volumes of zombie goo whilst suffering open wounds and severe traumatic injury.

As an aside, if your "friend" were incapacitated by a falling zombie, would they be killed outright, turned into a zombie of become a disabled zombie due to severe traumatic injuries? This is an idea that has often bothered me and I suppose I shall ave to wait until the apocolypse for answers.

Good luck with your experiment!

Just give them an umbrella, they'll be fine

This must have been answered on mumsnet by now.

Is there an conveyor belt involved at any point of this? It could seriously complicate all the calculations...

Is the zombie a special infected those boomers could do some real damage. A hunter could turn the fall into a pounce and you friend would be screwed by the time you got to him.

is the zobie on benefits and will it be wearing a hoodie?

Now, I'm assuming the point of the dropping and putrification of said zombie is to primarily kill the zombie, and not harm your friend?
If so, on the top of a car park, I'd have thought the obvious answer would be to use a helicopter to rip the zombie to shreds. I'm sure I've seen this in a [s]low budget film[/s] zombie documentary at some point.

I think the problem can be avoided fairly easily - just yell "Oi!" at your mate as you heave the zombie over - alerted, they can then avoid the plummeting zombie.

You will however have to provide changing room etiquette guidance for them as they'll have to go shower the goo off. Therefore you may also need to provide them some toast and pate, I seem to recall?

as I see it, being bitten or scratched by a zombie is enough to get you infected. Also one drop of blood into your eye from say a crow feeding on an infected corpse above you would turn you. However, it has been proved many times that you can fight the effects of 'zombiefication' if you are strong willed. (28 weeks later when he kissed the immune but infected woman (his wife) it took him a lot longer to turn then other infected people) This, I believe was due to the will power of the man. So, even if as meehaja says that you can become infected from zombie goo sitting on your skin for too long and seeping through you can, If you have the will power fight it.

Also, if you regularly take a small amount of zombie goo into your system, could you then become immune, or could taking zombie goo once you have been bitten have the same affect as refined snake venom does on snake bites?

Also, if you regularly take a small amount of zombie goo into your system, could you then become immune

Naah. Don't work like that I'm afraid. One molecule is enough. Seen it happen. Not nice. Good job I had a shotgun.

Also, if you regularly take a small amount of zombie goo into your system, you then become immune

I keep telling mrs muggo this, but she still won't do it.

Using basic Newtonian physics .
v²=u²+2as
Ek=1/2mv²

Mass of zombie = 100 kg
u=0m/s
s=35m (7 floors at 5 m each)
a=9.81 m/s²

The zombie will hit at a velocity of 26.2 m/s and will dissipate 68.644 kJ of energy. Admittedly some of this energy will be lost whilst generating a “wet slap” on impact but the majority of it will be transferred directly to your friend.

Therefore I conclude that if you were to drop a 100 kg zombie from a 7 story car park onto a friend stood directly below if would f### him over quite severely. This is not taking into considertation whether any burst zombie got up through his nose (or any other orifice) and gave him the "zombie" infection.

HTH

On reflection... If you just want to "sh1t him up a bit" I'd drop it next to him.

Zombies' FLESH is runny and putrefied, but they still have a skull, pelvis, femurs, rib cage etc etc and a fair bit of weight behind those hard bits. So yes, you'd die I am sure.

Zombies' FLESH is runny and putrefied

Au contraire, zombie flesh is reasonably toned - all that incessant wandering, holding your arms out straight the whole time, disembowling victims etc., guaranteed to build body mass. The runny stuff is the lungs, viscera, internal organy sqishy bits.

Edit: viscera is already plural. Things you learn, eh?

[i]The zombie will hit at a velocity of 26.2 m/s and will dissipate 68.644 kJ of energy[/i]

According to the spreadsheet in front of me that's roughly same amount of energy as is required to warm a pint of cow milk from fridge to human body temperature. Not sure if it's the same value for zombie body temps.

*off to the gym to perform bestest impression of a zombie hanging out with his wang out*

v²=u²+2as
Ek=1/2mv²

Mass of zombie = 100 kg
u=0m/s
s=35m (7 floors at 5 m each)
a=9.81 m/s²

The zombie will hit at a velocity of 26.2 m/s and will dissipate 68.644 kJ of energy. Admittedly some of this energy will be lost whilst generating a “wet slap” on impact but the majority of it will be transferred directly to your frien

Half that energy, surely?

From that sort of height the consistency of the zombie is immaterial. The force of impact would equate to somebody diving head first from the same height and whether they landed in a skip full of bricks or a skip full of tits it is still going to sting.

Harry the Spider B.Eng(Hons)
Mechanical / Zombie Engineering

According to the spreadsheet in front of me that's roughly same amount of energy as is required to warm a pint of cow milk from fridge to human body temperature. Not sure if it's the same value for zombie body temps.

Half that energy, surely?

Oops. 34.322 kJ. It would still kill you.

I hope you washed your hands before helping yourself to my biscuits.

/edit
[i]Oops. 34.322 kJ. It would still kill you.[/i]

The same spreadsheet tells me that's the amount of energy in 3.3 AA rechargeable batteries.
It has no biscuit related information at the moment though.

That may be the case. The issue is how fast the energy is devivered. With a falling/impacting zombie it would be instant, with a pan of milk it would take a few minutes, probably enough time to have a wee and eat a couple of biscuits.

The head may, however, be bouncing around for a considerable amount of time after. And if a zombie landed on the floor next to me with its head soundlessly mouthing "brains, brains" bouncing around like a putrid billiard ball I reckon it's a bit of a toss up which would stop first: the head or me weeing myself.

Would the wind be a factor?
Could a sudden updraft or a strong westerly affect speed and trajectory?
What if it's a tranny zombie in a large dress and you threw it legs first?

isn't it funny how even the simplest of modern day tasks are fraught with difficulties, I've just spoken with health & safety and you wouldn't believe the amount of signage, slip proof matting and different types of gloves they say I need! oh the humanity!

how much firepower would it take from below to repel the zombie? I'm thinking lie on your back with 6 shotguns pointing straight up. if nothing else it might impale him and leave you in a zombie/shotgun prison.

@mrnutt would your friend need a hard hat in case of falling objects?

Just for the purposes of research, can we construct a comedy style (ie ****off large) sieve to be positioned at, say, the third floor level of the aforementioned multi story car park and drop the zombie from the 7th floor. Observing the effects of taught metal wire ripping through putrifying flesh will be entertainment in it's own right, but, as a by product, if the resultant under-seive goo is scooped up and bagged, I'm sure it would make a lovely fertiliser.

Although, would we then get Triffids problems again?

... and MrsG wonders why I spend so much time lurking here... 😆

This must have been answered on mumsnet by now.

If the friend becomes a zombie - who is liable for any financial consequences? The zombie's estate, the zombie-dropper, or NCP for having car-park walls which are too low?

It's threads like this that keep me coming back to STW. Brilliant.

http://www.killthezombies.com/

here you go folks loads of zombie splattering flash games and some offer interesting insights into the dilemma posted originally.

Um, possibly off topic, but I seem to recall mention of a 'skipfull of tits'.

Are these readily available, or would I have to book in advance?

...better than a bouncy castle, that's where I'm going with this....