[Closed] I'm Furious! (Nursery content)

slowoldman - Member

When was pudding relegated from "food" to "treat"?

Why not both?

[i]Why not both? [/i]

Freat?

Trood?

If they accuse you of being petit, filous a complaint form.

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Ah, Pink Floyd...

sudden crashing of blood sugars when in a fasted or deprived state

This has been done but worth repeating....she'd already eaten therefore her bloodsugars werent in danger of crashing because she wasnt in a deprived or fasted state.

I had this at about the same age, this is going back 30=odd years and it didnt have a name then (maybe things are different now?)....i was just burning through my calories too quickly, massively fast metabolism....advice to my Mother from the Docs at the time was to 'give me a spoonful of sugar if i looked peaky'...it worked, i was fine.

I'd suggest you could also create food issues by giving your daughter what food she wants when she wants it because you're scared of her having low blood sugars...children arent daft and she'll soon work out the link and play on this...

"daddy i want some chocolate?"

"no"

"daddy i dont feel well"

Hmmm.....

State that she can eat whatever she wants when she wants. After all shes your Princess and she can have what she wants.

When you've got a nightmare on your hands you'll then go onto to blame her school teachers, etc and not yourself?

Haha, yep....Hora gets it.

Its not that indulged children become monsters as adults (generally they dont, it tends to wear off in late teens)...its that you make life so much harder for them as young adults, they get used to having everything their own way and then go into the big wide world and realise it isnt like that and have a very unhappy time adjusting to people telling them "no".

Massive over reaction IMO.

hora - Member
And if he'd come home with a scratch on his face and no explanation? they didn't phone to let you know, they phoned to cover their arse...
No I was glad that they let him climb the tree/have the opportunity.

They could easily have told me when I got to the school to collect him.

However I appreciate some parents would go batshitmental that they weren't told within 0.5sec's of the event happening so they could have the choice to rush round, etc etc.

I imagine some are right tools. I just said 'oh really (laughed abit) then said 'thats him allover'.

When he was 2 he went OTB on the velodrome BMX track so I'm not that ****tish '£££-compo' as a parent

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Just to counterbalance your point my step son fell over at school , banged his head , the school didn't tell us and nor did he . Next day he collapses at home , goes into a coma , nearly dies and comes out 3 months later with brain damage and his life pretty much ruined . Had the school told us then his treatment would have been much quicker and his prognosis significantly better .

Just chat to the nursery. Tell them you'll keep her in there but it's conditori on them giving her pudding.
The whole thing sounds like a very delicatessen situation.

Had the school told us then his treatment would have been much quicker and his prognosis significantly better

Be honest - would you have taken him to the hospital and would they have scanned him?

waiting with baited breath to hear about the stern talking to the nursery received this morning!

Not acceptable.

Unless you have agreed that this is an acceptable penalty.

The blood sugar thing is a red herring.

Go and speak to them and tell them that you do not agree and they need to be a bit more creative.

If they give you any static, move the child and let slip the auditors of ballache (CQC/OFSTED)

legend - Member
waiting with baited breath to hear about the stern talking to the nursery received this morning

Too late for that
The UN negotiation & arbitration team have been briefed (by another posters wife] so they have now taken over the incident

Just to counterbalance your point my step son fell over at school , banged his head , the school didn't tell us and nor did he . Next day he collapses at home , goes into a coma , nearly dies and comes out 3 months later with brain damage and his life pretty much ruined . Had the school told us then his treatment would have been much quicker and his prognosis significantly better .

Thing is would you have taken him to hospital that day if he came home looked ok/talked ok but only deteriorated the next day?

wanmankylung - Member
Had the school told us then his treatment would have been much quicker and his prognosis significantly better
Be honest - would you have taken him to the hospital and would they have scanned him?

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hora - Member
Just to counterbalance your point my step son fell over at school , banged his head , the school didn't tell us and nor did he . Next day he collapses at home , goes into a coma , nearly dies and comes out 3 months later with brain damage and his life pretty much ruined . Had the school told us then his treatment would have been much quicker and his prognosis significantly better .
Thing is would you have taken him to hospital that day if he came home looked ok/talked ok but only deteriorated the next day?

POSTED 20 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

We would have taken him straight to hospital , not to the doctors first and when we were at the hospital they would have CAT scanned him straight away rather than trying to find out if he had been taking drugs , sniffing glue , had an allergic reaction to something and various other possibilities.
After a 10 year battle the court agreed with us that at least 3 hours would have been saved and his outcome would have been significantly better . I have been told that his case is the reason why children always get a note to take home if they have any kind of accident at school .

Thing is would you have taken him to hospital that day if he came home looked ok/talked ok but only deteriorated the next day?

OP - over reaction in my opinion. If you don't trust the nursery to act on your behalf then find another nursery. You can't always have a set response to a childs behaviour, even if the no pudding thing were an off the cuff 'punishment' it was done for a reason. I would hope that nursery staff are pretty well versed in how to get a child to do what is asked without calling the parents to ask advice or resorting to a checklist. In this case it sounds like the staff member made a call and you need to trust them a little.

Are you micro-managed at work? Ever been? Now put yourself in the shoes of the nursery staff you're criticising.

[quote=DrJ ]Now that the trials of war criminals from former Yugoslavia are winding down, there's a building going spare in The Hague. Obvious solution, really.

Yes - a friend of mine works at the ICTY ( International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia ) cataloguing and checking statements and media files entered as evidence. He rarely speaks about the sort of videos that he has to look at, but once mentioned that sometimes the perpetrators had videoed themselves torturing and killing people for fun.

As his job is coming to an end perhaps we could all, as citizens of the world, press our respective governments to constitute an International Criminal Tribunal for The Denial Of Pudding and keep my friend in employment - albeit that we would inevitably have to put in place some form of counselling for those who heard the shocking evidence of an uncooperative child not getting any pudding once.

[quote=hora ]They could easily have told me when I got to the school to collect him.
However I appreciate some parents would go batshitmental that they weren't told within 0.5sec's of the event happening so they could have the choice to rush round, etc etc.

I've been phoned up to be told similar, and everybody in the school knows me and I'm sure also my attitude to things like this (am currently sitting in the school typing whilst waiting for IT stuff to install). Just standard practice, and with good reason given RN's experiences. Like everybody else I don't rush to A&E when I get such a report, but as he successfully argued, having the knowledge makes a difference in what treatment you seek if there is a subsequent problem.

[quote=Ramsey Neil ]Next day he collapses at home , goes into a coma , nearly dies and comes out 3 months later with brain damage and his life pretty much ruined . Had the school told us then his treatment would have been much quicker and his prognosis significantly better .

Much sympathy for you and your son.

waiting with baited breath to hear about the stern talking to the nursery received this morning!

Apparently, they gave the OP his daughters leftover pudding, and he's agreed to drop all charges.

Bit of a mix-up at the nursery, think they gave the pudding to the other UN so I can see why the United Nations might have to be involved
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Well, one thing I've learned here:

I'm looking forward to becoming a parent in the next few years but OTHER PARENTS ARE MENTAL.

Look at you lot!

I look forward to receiving my membership to the "mine is better than yours" club.

Looks like the OP has [u]deserted[/u] the place

We would have taken him straight to hospital , not to the doctors first and when we were at the hospital they would have CAT scanned him straight away rather than trying to find out if he had been taking drugs , sniffing glue , had an allergic reaction to something and various other possibilities.

How do you know that they would have scanned him straight away? I've taken my kids to the sick kids hospital a couple of times after they had a bang to the head - no scans, despite being symptomatic.

The amount of times our lad had a bruise on his head (ran into other child, fell off picnic table in nursery etc). With hindsight maybe we should have too but he wasn't sick, listless or withdrawn etc so we just thought it was kids being kids.

[i]How do you know that they would have scanned him straight away?[/i]

Just a guess but "because he's been to court and all parties have agreed that at least 3 hours was lost due to the information not being known by the parents or medical staff".

Give the guy a break - it sounds like they've had a shit time and had to go to court to get whatever help their son needs as a result of this incident. He shouldn't have to run the gauntlet of the STW armchair lawyers and medics.

Agree ^ my angle is how would the school (or me) know if its a simple fall. Sometimes things can develop. sometimes its just a headache. Hard to call (in general).

^^ +1

Apparently, they gave the OP his daughters leftover pudding, [s]and he's agreed to drop all charges[/s] once he'd cleared up after her.

wanmankylung - Member
We would have taken him straight to hospital , not to the doctors first and when we were at the hospital they would have CAT scanned him straight away rather than trying to find out if he had been taking drugs , sniffing glue , had an allergic reaction to something and various other possibilities.
How do you know that they would have scanned him straight away? I've taken my kids to the sick kids hospital a couple of times after they had a bang to the head - no scans, despite being symptomatic.

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Can't believe the fannies banging on at Ramsay Neil over this, have a word 🙁

Wow you are like a dog with a bone aren't you .What do you mean by being symptomatic ? In our case he was unconscious , wide eyed and with one unresponsive pupil , he was also vomiting .

Symtoms that showed up the day after...

[i]Symtoms that showed up the day after... [/i]

Oh FFS, just leave the guy alone.

They delay was between the kid showing symptoms and appropriate investigation being made - which has been proven in court to have been extended by the lack of warning to parents.

What are you trying to prove exactly? That the courts got it wrong?

I didnt realise (obvious I guess) that kids at school get a pudding at lunchtime.

So when I told hora jnr he wasn't getting a pudding after tea as he shouldn't expect a pudding ever day he replied...

So why does school give me cake and custard at lunch?

Little **** was getting TWO puddings every day! 😆

'Kin ell, this has gone south.

Wanmankylung you're being what can only be described as an a-hole.

RN - don't worry about the thread hijack, Kryton will deliver another middle class angst gem within the week. Guaranteed.

CBA

Sometimes you're better off just not trying to prove your point, jeez

Have skipped 4 pages but you choose to put your kid in their hands for the childcare. If you don't like it then take krypton jr out of their care and try to find one more suitable.

They haven't abused the kid, they haven't hurt the kid, they have tried to instill a little bit of discipline in a certain way you don't agree with. Get over it.

Worries me that anyone would have such an issue with someone trying to do something positive in the childcare. You backed it up with how amazingly well behaved little Kryton is and how everyone comments on it. Classic denial behaviour. Probably a serial killer in the making if you ask me.........

Oh FFS, just leave the guy alone.

this is not the issue to have a trolling fight in a zoo glumpton.

Have skipped 4 pages but you choose to put your kid in their hands for the childcare. If you don't like it then take krypton jr out of their care and try to find one more suitable.

Quite.

They haven't abused the kid, they haven't hurt the kid, .

Have you not read any of this? They DIDN'T LET HER HAVE ANY PUDDING!

Worries me that anyone would have such an issue with someone trying to do something positive in the childcare. You backed it up with how amazingly well behaved little Kryton is and how everyone comments on it. Classic denial behaviour. Probably a serial killer in the making if you ask me.........

😯

Steady on.

I haven't seen any evidence that a lack of pudding would harm her.

It all just seems a bit under-proved.

Steady on.

Why? It has long been proven by science, that Hitler was denied [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachertorte ]sachertorte[/url] as a nipper.

...and we all know how that turned out.

True. I just hope that missie Kryton got DOUBLE PUDDING when she returned from [s]Stalingrad[/s] nursery.

colp - Member 
Just chat to the nursery. Tell them you'll keep her in there but it's conditori on them giving her pudding.
The whole thing sounds like a very delicatessen situation.

Apparently Kryton was livid

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I'm horrified at Ramsey Neil's treatment on here. I can honestly say the worst examples of unfeeling key board warriors I have seen

Everything he has said makes sense. Not surprising given its been through the courts and confirmed

I'm sure that the difference between walking into A&E and saying my son had blow to the head yesterday and is " unconscious , wide eyed and with one unresponsive pupil , he was also vomiting" going to your GP and saying that my son saying my son is" unconscious , wide eyed and with one unresponsive pupil , he was also vomiting" not mentioning the blow to the head is huge in terms of medical response

To the OP

I think the nursery were wrong. But I wouldn't bother being furious. I'd would ask them to explain there punishments and also show you how they know what the food requirements are for each child. A nursery round here ended a toddlers life as they fed the child something it was allergic to