[Closed] I'll shoot your dog....

And?

Don't let your dog scare his sheep, simple.

not nice that is it.

I haven't got a dog - just seemed a very aggressive sign.

Oh and the mahoosive field behind the gates had precisely no sheep in it!

They might all be too worried to go into the field!

Sheep shouldn't be so neurotic and worry so much.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE shoot the stupid dog next door, wakes me up at about 3am every morning without fail. Spoken to owners who just don't care.

barbiturates in some sausages alwyn?

What do you expect from a Pikey place like Essex?

Not nice, but perfectly within his rights to shoot a dog that is worrying sheep. Maybe he has lost a few sheep to dogs already.

What you've never seen a sign like that before I take it's the first time in the countryside then.

Nothing wrong with Essex, and not many sheep there!

within his rights to shoot a dog that is worrying sheep

Really ? I thought dogs could only be destroyed without the owners consent by obtaining a court order.

Excellent - now I go around shooting things which "worry me"

Presumably.

I take it's the first time in the countryside then.

As seen on the gates on the north side of Hylands Park, Essex

Hylands Park is in london could be he's never been

it's the law.

[i]Hylands park is in London, so could be he's never been [/i]

Touche.

What's the issue here?

ernie-lynch, it's the law, dogs worrying livestock can legally be shot.

So I see.

Pah ! bl@@dy townies - know nowt 🙄

Whats the description of sheep worrying then? Actually atacking the sheep or just looking menacing to the sheep?

I think the Hylands Park Cheesy is on about, is near Chelmsford. Which is in Essex, and way outside London. Learn how to find somewhere on a map properly...

As for Essex being a 'Pikey place', its one of the most affluent counties in Britain! Ever been there??

Mind, 'Posh' Spice comes from Essex.... 🙄

Whats the description of sheep worrying then?

Telling it it's going to have it's leccy cut off?

That would worry me.

[i]Actually atacking the sheep or just looking menacing to the sheep? [/i]

And does the farmer bother asking the sheeps opinion before shooting the dog? Maybe they just want to play...

Whats the description of sheep worrying then?

I think the problem is that sheep are so neurotic that they panic whether the threat is real or perceived and commit suicide by running into barbed-wire.

Daft dozy creatures.

Bit harsh on the sheep, shooting them because they're worried about Dogs. Perhaps commas never made it past the farm gate?

Its nothing to do with being neurotic. At this time of year all the ewes are heavily pregnant. A dog in the field simply making them run could result in all the ewes loosing their lambs as well as their own lifes.

A single dog in a field full of pregnant sheep could cause real problems for the farmer.

have you ever seen the consequences of a dog attack on sheep? at this time of year ewes are heavily pregnant and liable to abort if chased by dogs. lambs are appearing and are usually ripped apart if dogs cach them, even adult sheep can be disembowelled by a small dog,and end up running round the field with their entrails hanging out. famers quiet rightly get very upset by this, and not only for finacial reasons! even the most placid of pet dogs are capable of doing this. shooting dogs is common practice to prevent this happening.

I saw a sign yesterday saying "dogs running loose will be shot"

As Lowey said.

alwyn - Member

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE shoot the stupid dog next door, wakes me up at about 3am every morning without fail. Spoken to owners who just don't care.

Get some sheep, shoot the dog. Sorted.

And you don't have to cut the grass either - bonus!

Worried sheep looking for a pen to hide in :

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alwyn just tell your neighbour that you don't want their dog spending the night with you anymore.

What about people worrying sheep? You know the type I mean!

I have seen the consequences first hand, a few years back when I used to work on a farm & at the time if I had a gun with me I would have had no issues shooting.

One of the worst thing I have ever see was while checking a flock, late at night, for ewe's having problems lambing. I came across what I thought was a ewe having problems on her side in great pain.

Only when I got close, I relized the ewe had a dog with its head inside her stomach tearing at her.

Not a pretty sight, and still sends a chill down my spine.

We also had a case of some sick mother, putting a stanley knife down the side of a cows, I don't know if I could have controlled myself, if I had caught the person responsible for that.

since when have sheep been kept at hylands?

think you northern types are thinking of hyde park. completely different. different location and more more importantly spelt differently.

i used to live five minutes from there. mum still walks the dogs there as there is now some cafe up at the house. the house was used recently in some film, doubling as the white house. don't remember the film.

would regularly fly kites over on the field (in a northerl/ north-westerly) and ride throuh at night and get stoned in the woods on way to the viper pub at margaretting. also quite a popular place for gays to hang out looking for a bumming.

rode through once (quite stoned) at dusk through the woods on the right-hand side of the entrance. came round a corner and there was a bloke standing there. nearly hit him. rode further on and there was another bloke standing in the middle of the path. asked him if he was waiting for some one or had a dog he was waiting for. he said no, but in a weird, not really sure sort of way. soon realised why. (think i got his hopes up). so on i rode and there was a bloke sitting on a tree stump being sucked off by another guy. arrrrrgh! all sorts of crazy sh!t went through my head. had images of being pinned down and bummed. i never knew my legs had such a turn of speed. i rode past another bloke-just standing there- scaring the poo out of him as i nearly knocked him over. got out on to the footpath. fell to the ground laughing so hard it hurt.

interesting ride that one.

also used to regularly see lots of cars pull up around lunch time, occupanbt from one car would jump out and climb into the car behind. didn't take long for the windows to get a bit steamed up so i've no idea what was going on. probably had a little stove or kettle or something....

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Can we legally shoot the Welsh now then?

besides, there are two halves of essex. divided by the a12. the southern half, where i grew up and where the old man is from is shit. southend, PITsea, basildon, lakeside, grays, tilbury. it's where the stillettos and hand bags, XR3i boy racer image comes from.
the northern half, where my mum insists she comes from is actually rather nice. saffron walden, finchingfield, the abbotts, the walthams. lots of quaint village pubs, thatched houses and village greens.

chelmsford lays directly on the a12, although my mum would argue it is slighty to the north, therefore better. i would say it's a mix of the two, but more southy than nothern. but an improvement on grays. god that is shit.

Read this:

"The Animal Act 1971 Protection of Livestock Against Dogs"

Basildon? A mate of mine's ex and their kids live there. He said he's thinking of moving there. 😯

What a sh1thole that place is. I really do not think it has any redeeming features, whatsoever.

besides, there are two halves of essex. divided by the a12. the southern half, where i grew up and where the old man is from is *. southend, PITsea, basildon, lakeside, grays, tilbury. it's where the stillettos and hand bags, XR3i boy racer image comes from.
the northern half, where my mum insists she comes from is actually rather nice. saffron walden, finchingfield, the abbotts, the walthams. lots of quaint village pubs, thatched houses and village greens.
chelmsford lays directly on the a12, although my mum would argue it is slighty to the north, therefore better. i would say it's a mix of the two, but more southy than nothern. but an improvement on grays. god that is *.

Well maybe, but I bet they have shift keys on their computers and know how to use them.

Basildon... doesn't Depeche Mode come from there?

i've no idea what was going on. probably had a little stove or kettle or something....

I've never been that desperate for a cuppa......

Might have been one of those plug in steamer things for veg you get at Christmas and never use.

I'll walk my dog through sheep at heel. He's been trained from a puppy to ignore sheep.

One time the local farmer shouted that he could shoot my dog if I didn't put it on a lead. So I popped the lead on (his field, his rules as far as I'm concerned) and he said... "Thanks very much" and gave me a cheery wave.

I found it quite funny (the treat of violence to friendly in seconds). Could have gone very badly for someone if he picked the wrong person though (especially the dog).

Basildon, now that is a bit grim. Yes Depeche Mode hark from that area, as does Alison Moyet.

Chelmsford was the birthplace af radio. Marconi sent his first transmission there.

It's lambing time starting now. So expect your dog to be shot if it is worrying sheep.

Police have told my parents in the past to shoot dogs causing a problem.

Seems reasonable to me. IMO all dogs should be shot. Dealing with the ones worrying sheep is a small step in the right direction.

yeah i got shift key too. i used it with pitsea to emphasise how it's the pits. although many places in the south are not worthy of big letters. that and i'm lazy and not applying for a job at this moment in time.

my cousin used to have the same dentist as keith from the prodigy. they're mostly from braintree, although that is also mostly crappy albeit north of the 'divide'.

maldon is ok and that is south of a12 so it isn't so cut and thrust.

i worked in the marconi building once...as a cleaner. got fired. was so happy... i mean gutted.

Bit harsh on the sheep, shooting them because they're worried about Dogs. Perhaps commas never made it past the farm gate?

BEWARE Dogs worrying sheep may be shot

no need for a comma. prehaps a hyphen after sheep.

I see no problem there, pfft city folk eh?

What's a sheep? 😯

Posh Spice is from Hertfordshire actually, went to school with her.

The area we are both from is culturally indistinguishable from Essex though.

🙂

She was born in Harlow! That's in Essex!!!!!!

Harlow... you know the word 'Harlot', well....have you ever wondered where it originated? 🙄

Obviously the sign writer was concerned that his (or her) sign should be clearly understood, otherwise he (or she) would not have gone to the trouble of putting : 'dog(s)'

I suggest that instead of : ' BEWARE Dog(s) worrying sheep may be shot '

He (or she) replaces the sign with one saying : 'BEWARE : Dogs which worry sheep may be shot '

That would clear up any possible misunderstanding.

Although I suggest that the country bumpkin who wrote the sign, employs the services of an educated townie to deal with complex issues surrounding the Queens' English.

Maybe my wife has seen that sign and is going to use it in her defence....apparently she always worries about me!

[i]What do you expect from a Pikey place like Essex?[/i]

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Why not put a sign underneath. 'This is Essex mate, shoot my dog and I'll shoot you and your dog(s)'

re: Original Post: plenty of farms round here would do likewise. I won't bother repeating previous comments about pregnant ewes and otherwise nice family dogs 'smelling blood' as it were, but it wouldn't suprise or alarm me to see that anywhere in SW.

My brother-in-law farms sheep (700-odd plus whatever lambs they pop out) in Buckinghamshire, with a public footpath through his land. I must get round to asking him how many lambs or even ewes he has lost to overexcited dogs off leads. And how many he's actually had to shoot.

Can't threaten Foxes can he? Foxes can't read. Me thinks in part its right of access and someone waving a stick subconsciously at people who have a right of way..

I can remember when "I were a lad" the police asking my father to shoot a Rottweiler that was rampaging some of the local farms and killing sheep. They couldn't get any one from the firearms squad there and they knew that my father was an FAC holder, so effectively employed his services to dispatch the animal.

He stalked it across fields on a quad bike until it stopped in the sand quarry at the back of our farm - last place it ever saw! I can still remember him saying it took longer to go down after he shot it than a Red Stag does.

They can make one hell of a mess of any animal and tend to keep on doing it, which can be very costly to the farmers. As the old saying goes - Like a dog that's tasted blood for the first time!

Can't threaten Foxes can he? Foxes can't read. Me thinks in part its right of access and someone waving a stick subconsciously at people who have a right of way.. "

hora why don't you have a day off from being thick?
farmers will shoot foxes but will not bother warning them first and uncontrolled dogs are a real problem, that's why it's legal to shoot them.

i know a 88 year old farmer (female) who's livelihood depends on the amount of sheep she rears. losing lambs costs money which is why i am attending a fox shoot on her farm at the weekend.

she postponed her hip operation so that it didn't clash with lambing, she makes all you northern hardmen look like the mummies boys you really are.

 

Two 6 mth old Rottweilers,attacked a field of sheep by us the other week.They killed 6 & maimed several others that had to be killed because they had legs hanging off etc.Farmer phoned the police gave his name & told them what he was about to do.They said fine,you're within your rights to do so....
The dogs were owned by a neighbouring farmer !

seems fair enough to me, if you don't want your dog shot, keep it on the lead when in a field with sheep.

If you are too much of a selfish **** to do that, then you shouldn't really have a dog, so the farmer is helping you out.

In an ideal world, if they farmer was forced to shoot a dog because it was worrying sheep, he would be able to claim compensation off the dog owner, and the RSPCA/Police should be able to ban the person from owning a dog again to stop stupid people causing unnecessary suffering to animals (sheep and dogs)

Fair enough.

Although it's a pointless sign: responsible dog owners wouldn't need reminding of the fact (I assume all farmers want to shoot my dogs anyway), and irresponsible dog owners would presumably clock the 'empty' field and leave their dogs off-lead.

Anyway, I'm not getting sucked in 🙂

complex issues surrounding the Queens' English.

… like how to use the apostrophe?

'BEWARE : Dogs which worry sheep may be shot '

Trouble is, that now sounds like it was written by a nice, well educated young man.

The original sign is more believable, conveying a slight menace in its disregard for the Queen's English. I vote for keeping the sign in its original form - 'vernacular farmer' is more effective a voice than 'poncy IT engineer grammar freak'.

Touche.

I like a nice discussion on grammar in the morning.

[i]He (or she) replaces the sign with one saying : 'BEWARE : Dogs which worry sheep may be shot '[/i]

Sure you don't mean "Dogs [b]that[/b] worry sheep"?

Tsk.

'Dogs [b]what[/b] worry sheeps'.

'she makes all you northern hardmen look like the mummies boys you really are.'
You don't even know me. Presumptious Dickhead.

Totally fair.
Even the most placid family dog can turn into a sheep killer.

Its the same with horses, stupid chavs find it funny when good ol' Satan the "Rotty" sends a horse ballistic & its poor rider gets thrown.

'she makes all you northern hardmen look like the mummies boys you really are.'
You don't even know me. Presumptious Dickhead.

i guess your 'northern' and a bit of a 'hardman' then?
i'm excited and a little bit hard for you.

If only you knew 🙂

If only you knew [:-)]

LOL

A classic STW thread. Shooting, dogs, posturing, grammar....

🙂

Mr Smith, A fox shoot! What a waste, get after them with a pack of hounds.

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Rudeboy - Only because our area is in the cachement area of the Princess Alex Hospital.

I wish I could palm her off on Essex, really.

I won't hear a word against Harlow though, I did a two-year tour of duty on the local newspapers there and I did become attached to the place.

Yes, it's a hole, but a hole with some very nice people in it.