[Closed] If you saw an obviously pregnant woman fall over

Yep.

I guess no-one did. Are you okay?

I'd give her a kick, just to see how far she'd roll 🙂

Of course I would. But then the fact she's pregnant (or indeed female) is beside the point.

Yes. But some people are nobs.

Of course, they might have just assumed that you were a tubber.

pregnant or not should not make a difference, the answer is yes.

What happened?

I stop and ask anyone if they were ok if they fell over in front of me. Even if it looks obvious that they're fine, it seems like a common courtesy.

Yeah, but I generally go and see if anyone is ok if they fall over, it's just nice isn't it?

I'd stop to check if I say anyone fall over. Life has however taught me to not mention if I think a woman is pregnant.

Of course I would. But then the fact she's pregnant (or indeed female) is beside the point.

Exactly this ^

deffo.

picked a old lady up in leeds a couple of week ago outside primark, she had slipped coming out.........useless foreign security man just stood and watched her.

Did you trip them?

Yeah in Sainsburys car park. Plenty of people about, no one stopped. Think that's a bit shitty tbh.

Nettles yes fair point 😉

And are you okay?

Life has however taught me to not mention if I think a woman is pregnant.

I always go over to help, but I position myself nearby and hopefully out of sight until I can be sure if they are actually hurt, need support or calming down, or are otherwise in trouble. If you are fine and can just get up and back on your way, you don't want someone fussing over you.

Is that possible?

I thought that weebles wobbled, but they don't fall down!

(hope you're ok!)

Life has however taught me to not mention if I think a woman is pregnant.

Yeah I'm fine Si, grazed hand, dirty knees, buised ego.

I would help, but I'm of the older generation.

But as Jimmy Carr says - "I'd much rather see a pregnant woman standing up on a bus, than a fat girl sitting down, crying"

[i]dirty knees, bruised ego[/i]

Still, you'll be used to that 🙂

picked a old lady up in leeds a couple of week ago outside primark, she had slipped coming out.........

I would say yes, but would be pissed off when ( chances are high ) she blanks me afterwards.

When I grew up I was taught the whole respect & ladies first shite. Open a door for the female of the species these days and she'll more than likely ignore you and think you're trying to get in her pants.

I once slipped and fell head over heels onto ice. I was laying there laughing. A group of boys (school children) stopped and asked if I was ok/if I needed a hand up.

I'm nowhere near pensionable age.

picked a old lady up in leeds a couple of week ago outside primark

ton, didn't think the old ones were your thing. 🙂

Joking aside, fair dues though. Mrs DD had a proper onto her face fall when she was mid-term. Not sure anyone stopped either. Isn't there a name for the syndrome whereby the more by-standers, the less chance someone will help as everybody thinks somebody else will step in.

You're pregnant?

Why did no one tell me?

(Confuses some members, I'm sure! 😉 )

Once I'd uploaded the clip to youtube from my phone I'd definitely stop and check they were ok.

don't worry, you were going to find out when I sent the CSA after you 😉

picked a old lady up in leeds a couple of week ago outside primark

Ahhh so you like the more mature laydee then Ton

Seriously now, to me it's an obligation and common courtesey.

Helped a lady who slipped on ice the other week, she went down HARD, ended treble nining it and getting an ambulance, she fractured her scapula it turns out, then it's chucking it down with snow, she's in that much pain she can't move from an upright sitting position and the number of people who tutted as the had to change direction to avoid us(oh the inconvenience)... that attitude boils my piss... but then I'm the sort of person who will stop at RTCs if it looks serious enough and the blue light services are not in attendance.

EDIT: DD beat me to the joke

Isn't the many bystanders not intervening more about the norm? I.e. if you are in a large group of people and no one intervenes then that tells you that not intervening is the "right" course of action - the more people not intervening, the more this looks "right".

They've done tests where fire alarms go off and smoke begins to fill the room - if everyone else (stooges) sits still and quiet, the subject of the test likely will too, presumably until the flames are licking their ankles.

lol grum I'll wait to become a youtube sensation!

Stopped (on my bike) in January when we had the first snowfall a middle-aged woman was lying half-in/half-out of a bus shelter. When I asked if she was OK she said she'd slipped on the snow.

Well her ankle was broken and her foot/shoe was just swinging in the breeze and she started panicking but she calmed down after I lifted her onto the bench inside the shelter. I phoned for an ambulance, she phoned her husband and we just sat there eating Haribo & waiting for about 40mins (the weather was quite bad) until the ambulance turned up. Profuse thanks & GWS & I carried on with my bike ride 🙂

I stopped to help a pregnant lady who had fallen once. Somebody else had rang for an ambulance (her ankle had swollen dramatically) and I stayed with her cr**ping myself in case she started to go into labour and expected me to do the whole boiling water and towels thing (the ambulance took ages to arrive). I don't know who was more relieved when the ambulance finally turned up, me or her.

Of course you stop to see if they are all right. Doesn't have to be a pregnant woman although they are top of the list alongside elderly ladies.

The list only applies in case of mass falling overs. Pregnant women & old ladies, old fellas, the rest of the general population then kids. I've nothing against kids but they are bottom of the triage list 'cos they tend to bounce.

I would help, but I'm of the older generation

Younger Surfer is from the "younger" generation. A more helpful and well mannered boy you would never meet, takes after his mum!

Of course I would stop and help, paid up member of the human race and all that.

I'd stop to help - unless you were in a zoo

Isn't the done thing now to video the incident, so you can stick it on FaceAche or YouTube before pointing & laughing??

FWIW - I can't see why someone wouldn't go to help, unless the person who fell was with someone else who was already seeing to them. No point adding to any embarassment.

Sorry to hear that and hope you're ok mrs f - a frightening experience for you. Congrats anyway. 🙂

ah well, shame none of you were in Colton sainsburys today you could have dashed to my aid.

thanks C_G 🙂

Yep, I generally stop for people I see lying on the floor when others around me are quite content to walk on by.

Notable ones include the drunk girl unable to stand and with no knickers whose skirt had ridden up 😯

Closely followed by the guy who seemed a bit annoyed that I had woken him up - I guess he must have been homeless or very tired.

Then more recently I came across 3 elderly people in the spate of 3 months. One guy was at a bus stop and apart from myself and another lady everyone else just walked past and ignored him.

Easy answer:

Stop and help = Brought up properly

Walk on by = Everyone else

I slipped on ice cream on the marble floor at the Trafford Centre while pregnant and staff had me immediately sign a disclaimer after a very quick "are you alright?". Would I really know within less than a minute that I (and baby) would be alright? But they sure didn't waste any time.

Congrats

Off course stop and help, who wouldn't?

My Mum fell over in a shop a couple of years back. A few people gathered round to make sure she was on. Next thing she sees is a person behind the people asking if she was alright reach into her handbag and try to take purse.
Mum challenged the woman who claimed she was just going to pick up the bag. Mum said she was clearly going for the purse as the handles were lying down beside the bag.

expected me to do the whole boiling water and towels thing

I always wondered what the point of that was. I've a sneaking suspicion that it's to get the panicky blokes out from under the feet whilst the women take care of the job properly.

I'm nowhere near pensionable age.

yes, but you look like you are...

useless foreign security man just stood and watched her.

Would an indigenous security man have been of greater assistance?

Presumably he couldn't have been of less assistance, which only leaves "equal" and "greater" as options. So perhaps so.

I always wondered what the point of that was. I've a sneaking suspicion that it's to get the panicky blokes out from under the feet whilst the women take care of the job properly.

I found out. It's to mop up loads and loads of blood 😯

Well, that's silly. It's cold water for blood stains.

*cough* I imagine.

Cougar that's almost sexist...tut tut.

Presumably he couldn't have been of less assistance, which only leaves "equal" and "greater" as options. So perhaps so.

Would indigenousness be an asset in such a situation then? It's just that I'm puzzled as to why the foreign-ness of the security guard was worthy of mention at all.

Yes, I would have helped...
Good to hear the only damage is your ego 😉

I actually helped a lady get to her feet on Saturday night...
Me, heading home from work.
Them - heading home from the pub. Up our lovely steep, snow laden, lane.
The lady, flat on the floor. Could not co-ordinate any form of movement, let alone get traction. He was just stood there...
I got her to her feet, gave a gentle push to get some momentum going and away they went. Watched them to their door. Came home.

Marsdenman: What you didn't realise, is that he'd just knocked her to the ground, and she was staying down to avoid further beatings. Which probably resumed once you'd disappeared. 😐

I'd stop to help anyone that fell over, happened the other week to me, just about to get off the bus and this drunk guy did a delboy righ through the bus shelter, couldn't believe the 2 people getting off before me just walked right by him.

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Marsdenman: What you didn't realise, is that he'd just knocked her to the ground, and she was staying down to avoid further beatings. Which probably resumed once you'd disappeared.

It was meant to be a joke. Obviously, it failed. For this, I am truly sorry.

deffo.

picked a old lady up in leeds a couple of week ago outside primark, she had slipped coming out.........useless foreign security man just stood and watched her.

Did he not even say anything?

Some people just don't gaf about others any more, however after the Biffy gig the other night some old boy with his suitcase was amongst the chaos on the train station platform going back into Birmingham. Cue train pulling up and loads of people scrumming to get on, me, the mrs and another bloke just cleared him a way through and carried his case on. It really wasn't hard and you know what doing stuff like that actually makes you feel good about yourself!

It really wasn't hard and you know what doing stuff like that actually makes you feel good about yourself!

That sounds like quite a selfish reason for helping someone

Sometimes I really do despair with some of the folk on here 🙄

CharlieMungus - Member
It really wasn't hard and you know what doing stuff like that actually makes you feel good about yourself!
That sounds like quite a selfish reason for helping someone

you're being more than a wee bit too cynical I'd suggest.

I think he's just being a bit of a knob...

useless foreign security man

I'm guessing you actually KNOW he's foreign. I mean, you wouldn't judge someone's nationality based on skin colour or facial characteristics alone, would you...

Congratulations, MrsF, and I'm really glad that your spill left no lingering damage. I had a spill on my bike a couple of years ago, walking speed, just turned onto a shared cycle lane, and both wheels went sideways. I went down like a sack of spuds, banged the side of my face, (thankfully my Xen's peak took most of that impact), my shoulder, and my left knee, which got a hell of a bang, and has never been right since. Really shook me, and a lovely older couple came over, all concerned, asking if I was ok.
I would do the same, and have; it's how I was brought up. Working-class family, you can at least behave like a gentleman even if you're not. I saw this tiny little Japanese lady, with a small girl and a large, wheeled suitcase-type thing, trying to get up a narrow, steep flight of steps off of Walcott street. It was out of my way, but I offered to help her get it to the top; it was bloody heavy, and cumbersome! I struggled with the damned thing, Christ knows how she would have managed if I hadn't helped. She was very thankful, gave me a lovely smile, and I felt I'd earned some Kharma Points for helping.

That sounds like quite a selfish reason for helping someone

Didn't some philosopher write at length about that?

EDIT psychological egoism

all actions are selfish aren't they?
we all selfishly seek gratification, it's just that gratification takes different forms.

IME there are almost always people who stop and are generally helpful......even the old dear who told me sternly that I was [b]not[/b] allowed to move 'the faller' as the woman on the phone had said so - she hadn't noticed the RRV or my green uniform! 😆

More frustrating though, are the ones who spot someone falling over/lying on the ground, who then continue to walk/drive by but are public spirited enough to call 999 on their mobile - cue driving around looking for a 'patient' who has long since got up and wandered off home or in search of the next pub!

That sounds like quite a selfish reason for helping someone

😆 (it was supposed to be a joke, wasn't it?)

I was going to type in a long boring tale of having to administer CPR to a heavily pregnant woman on the tube that ultimately made me leave London and actually the UK as i was so bothered by the experience. But I won't, the York notes are ****less idiots moaning at me, being punched (!) by someone for pulling the comms chain and paramedic apologising he couldn't help get her off the train (H&S apparently). Its a broken world when people don't give a sh1t about other people.

Many years ago, when I was on crutches after a motorcycle accident my mate and I tried to help a guy who was lying bleeding not far from the pub we were heading for. The guy looked like he had been given a doing. We tried to help him to his feet, he thought whoever had battered him in the first place was back and took a swing at me..Cue lots of frantic hobbling by me while my mate tried to tell him were trying to help, then the guy falls over. We try to get him on his feet again with the same result and a third time same result..... Left him there and as this was before mobile phones went into the pub and got them to call the ambulance 🙂
Congratulations. Mrsflash.

molgrips

Yeah I love the debate that rages around psychological egoism.

In fact it's kind of the subject of one of my favorite movie quotes, I'm always saddened by this film. Beautiful film......... just beautiful.

"Are you righteous? Kind? Does your confidence lie in this? Are you loved by all? Know that I was, too. Do you imagine your sufferings will be less because you loved goodness? Truth?" - The Thin Red Line

Cut's right through to the human condition IMO.

Just bumped into the lady that I assisted on Saturday - as expected - beer and icy conditions were the cause.
Only damage was her pride.

I shouldn't be surprised, I've just remembered the time GF was knocked off his bike by a bus on Princes Street and landed almost under a taxi. No one stopped for him then either.

IME there are almost always people who stop and are generally helpful..

I've stopped to ask/help if people are ok, a lady walking down the stairs behind me at the train station, sure she was checking out my arse and not watching where she was going 🙂
And when I binned it on the tram lines in manchester city centre a lady stopped to ask if i was ok, when I replied yes she scolded me with "well get off the lines then"
there's plenty of decent people around

I've just remembered the time GF was knocked off his bike by a bus on Princes Street

I'd stop and help anyone, like any other proper human being. Unless I was on a strava run,[i] obviously[/i].

When I fell and broke my hip, a passerby offered to help. I said no, I was fine, just needed a breather. He said ok, and walked on- til he was just out of my sight, then he watched me for a while, then once it was obvious I wasn't getting up in a hurry he came back. That was a bit above and beyond, I thought.

On the other hand... Years back, I was on a coach, going from Edinburgh to Milton Keynes to see Metallica. About an hour from the gig, a guy up the back had a proper full-on seizure. Bus driver stopped to see if he was OK, his mates said "Don't worry, we've got this- it happens sometimes but he'll be fine now". So we carried on. Then we got to the gig and everyone jumped off the bus, except him- he was up the back, unconscious. The folks around him didn't know him at all- they just lied and said he was fine because they didn't want to delay the bus!

A couple of years ago in Sainburies cafe, the littlest ms mcguff chooked on something she was eating. There I was panicking but trying not to, desperately trying to clear her airways while she slowly turned blue(with my elder daughter - then only four and wandering what was happening) nobody came to help. And yes it was very clear we were in trouble. Once I had cleared her airways, covered in sick and piss, then somebody came to see if we were alright.