You shout at your SO "Where's my effin Dinner?", you'll probably end up wearing it. If you whisper in their ear "What are we having tonight?", you'll probably get some dinner and maybe some special attention later.
Quite the new man 🙂
My friend got stopped in her late teens driving her little Mk1 Fiat Panda. She got out of the car and was all nervous and flustered, professed that she was really sorry for whatever she's done and promised she'd not been drinking or anything and would happily blow into 'that thing', pointing at the item the officer was holding, to prove it.
"You can if you like love", said the officer (it was in the North, where you can say that sport of thing without everyone thinking it's a chavanistic assualt on the rights of women), "but that's my radio"
[i]In the good old US of A if you made the move to get out of the car the very least you'd expect is being shouted at while the Cop will have his gun ready to be pulled out !! [/i]
I went on a driving holiday to the States with a couple of mates. We got lost trying to find a motel, saw a couple of police cars stopped with the officers stood beside them chatting.
We stopped and all got out the hire car to ask directions.
It was a bit disconcerting the way they all separated and put their hands near their holsters.
The did relax as soon as we spoke, though.
I think this is more a question of attitude than child safety. If you have the correct attitude when dealing with the police or any other member of society, then usually things will work out better for all parties.
Example 1)
You shout at your SO "Where's my effin Dinner?", you'll probably end up wearing it. If you whisper in their ear "What are we having tonight?", you'll probably get some dinner and maybe some special attention later.
Example 2)
You you are driving along in your bubble and some one in authority asks you to step out of it you have two options. Get defensive/aggressive because of your "concern" for your kids when the real reason is that you resent the intrusion into your territory. Or hop out, have a polite chat and maybe get a ticking off.
The choice is yours.
or example 3)
polietly explain your safety concerns to the officer without being defensive / aggressive because you have no ulterior motive.
Feel free to provide more examples that labour a one sided & simple view.
[i]polietly explain your safety concerns to the officer
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I still don't understand what the OP's actual concerns were though?
I really don't see what the issue is with leaving the kids in the car for a minute or two
do you have kids, I alway try to plan not having to visit a petrol station if nipper is with me and I'm on my own. I certainly wouldnt leave him a the side of a motorway.
gravitysucks
Your example 3 works for me too.
My point was that it is all about your attitude.
[i]wouldnt leave him a the side of a motorway[/i]
I'm not sure he was being taken to a police station, just sat in a car behind his?
I still don't understand what the OP's actual concerns were though?
My Daughter once popped her seatbelt, jumped into the front seat and opened the front door when we were parked at a farm because she was excited about getting an icecream (wind took the door and put a dent in the next car 👿 )
I wouldn't like my son to have the same opputunity on the side of a motorway because he's excited and wants to see the police car that daddy's gone to sit in.
When looking after my children I like to remain in control of the situation.
[i]When looking after my children I like to remain in control of the situation. [/i]
so where were you when your daughter was climbing all round the inside of the car?
I've always found the best policy with traffic cops is to admit everything and be brutally honest. "Why were you speeding?", "Sorry, I was in a hurry, I should've known better" etc.. They seem to respect that. Never change your story, and keep answering their repeated questions with the same answers.
As for getting pulled with kids in the car? Never happened to me but I guess I'd ask politely if they wouldn't mind allowing you to stay in your car/within sight so the kids don't freak out.
so where were you when your daughter was climbing all round the inside of the car?
Getting her coat out of the boot, I just told you it was windy! 😆
gravitysucks: can you not deadlock your car? Usually double-tap on the remote and then even the front doors can't be opened from the inside.
and what was being done with two young kids int he car that warranted a police stop on the motorway - they usually try and avoid stops on the hard shoulder.
they'll pull a gun on you in the states if you get out of the car before asked to do so....
I remember driving through tahoe with my dad we got pulled, my dad jumped out the car to go and see what was up, to be greeted by screams of 'stay where you are' 'hands on your head' ' SLOWLY'
then the guy proceeded to just scream at him.
gravitysucks: can you not deadlock your car?
I can but it activates the alarm, which the kids then set of because of the internal sensors. Defening noise and tears commence.
and what was being done with two young kids int he car that warranted a police stop on the motorway - they usually try and avoid stops on the hard shoulder.
I don't know i've never been stopped by the police.
The OP was a hypothetical question was it not?
I can but it activates the alarm, which the kids then set of because of the internal sensors.
Yeah that's an issue. 🙂 Check the manual, I think you [i]may[/i] be able to deadlock without the alarm?
Not an issue for me yet. Strap buckle is sufficiently complex to foil our little un (22 months)... so far.
I remember driving through tahoe with my dad we got pulled, my dad jumped out the car to go and see what was up, to be greeted by screams of 'stay where you are' 'hands on your head' ' SLOWLY'
theres a great story from rob warner about being pulled over in shaun plamer's cadillac. palmer jumps out; cop starts screaming; palmer starts shouting "go on then shoot me, trigger happy boy". 😯
I've suffered the police getting upset when I got out of the car. Admittedly I did it rather quickly as it was raining a bit and I got out and jogged back to their car while they were still getting out of theirs. The cop shut his door, opened his window and asked me to go back to my car lol. Baffled I was, but later he explained that I looked a little aggressive. Still, it lightened the mood afterwards!
Standard advice in France is as soon as you stop on the hard shoulder, get all passengers out of the vehicle and over the armco barrier to safety. Never sit in a car on the hard shoulder as at high speed drivers are drawn to obstacles on the hard shoulder. The emergy services thelmselves are often hit despite the huge illuminated signs.
The way in Spain is to accept that you'll never do the right thing as the Guardia Civil will be compelled to tell you to do something simply to justify their existence and authority.
This has never failed.
Pretty sure you're allowed to drive to the next junction/service area if "pulled" on a motorway.
Average time for a collisions including a vehicle on the "hard shoulder" is less than 10 minutes.
Nothing back from the OP, I call troll.
Because kids are inquisitive and playful. At four years of age they can also very easily click a seat belt climb into the front and open a door. There's no way on earth I'd leave them alone at the side of motorway with cars and hgv's whizzing past at 70mph.
Yes it might be unlikely but I tend not to gamble with my children's lives. Do you?
Yes those little rascals can't be trusted for a minute. I do hope you are not trying to supervise them from doing the aforementioned whilst doing the tricky job of driving? 😉
I always used to think those "warning - child on board" signs were for overprotective retard parents ("oh, I was going to run you off the road as I do most other vehicles in my vicinity but I now see by your helpful sign you have a minor in the car I have seen the error of my ways and will make you the exception!") until I went in the car with my sister and her littleun and I realised the sign is meant to warn other other road users that there is an unstable introverted parent at the wheel who my or may not look up from the important business of parenting to check where the hell they are going once in a blue moon!
on M56; Thule bike rack indicators not working but on a newish Discovery so big lights still visible.
Police car parked in front on hard shoulder not behind
Very polite to Police and asked if I was to leave the car with children in would 2nd Officer stay in my car and assume duty of care...
So they put you in danger for a minor problem rather than instructing you to drive in front of them to the next exit. You shouln't be moaning on here, you should be filing a complaint [url= http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/default.aspx ]here.[/url] or filling in this [url= http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26038 ]petition[/url] depending on how dangerous you think the situation was.
Lets say it's hypothetical - but in this instance could you refuse to leave the car?
On the contrary, as soon as my car stopped I'd order everyone out of the kerb-side doors and over the crash barrier, and wait for the police there. In England I'd also order all family memebers to put their hands on their heads and do the same myself.
Slightly OT. My dad left me in the car when I was 4 years old. I climbed into the driver seat, put it in neutral and let off the handbrake. We were parked on a slight incline and I crashed through two fences and into a house. Same car (Navy blue, 4 door Hillman Hunter), but I was a year older and wiser. I opened the back door going round a roundabout and fell out. Car was prompty sold and replaced by a yellow, 2 door Datsun Sunny.
Never underestimate what a child will do in a car. Especially an [s]dumb[/s] adventurous one. 😀
