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[Closed] If I could change anything fundamental in British Society

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Also, I’d prevent politicians using the term “taxpayer” and get then to use the term “citizen”

I disagree as not all citizens are taxpayers. There needs to be a system where everyone contributes something affordable. With the exception of course for those who are mentally or physically unable to. Saying that, I've worked with plenty of people with mental and physical handicaps that do damn good jobs.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 5:01 pm
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, PPE education is the simplest easiest change we can make for the biggest effect.

I'd like what you say to be true but isnt PPE from Oxbridge preceded by a few years of being violated at Eton/Winchester how most MPs got there?


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 5:03 pm
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For this to happen you either need a military coup or for people to vote for it consistently.

The OPs question suggested I had the power to change whatever I wanted, I am disappointed.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 5:28 pm
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Christian prayers and religious songs every day at my council estate state primary in the 80s.

I meant proselytising in RE lessons - not the assembly stuff.

I’d like what you say to be true but isnt PPE from Oxbridge preceded by a few years of being violated at Eton/Winchester how most MPs got there?

Yes, which is exactly why the general public needs to be educated in it - so we can argue with them on their own terms and/or see through their bullshit.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 7:52 pm
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Yes, which is exactly why the general public needs to be educated in it – so we can argue with them on their own terms and/or see through their bullshit.

Oh. I see what you are saying. Sort of like how everyone should take a stats course so they understand what is being said when people quote stats.

I just worry that it would go the other way - people would see arguing about Etonians vs wykehamists being better educated while the county circles the bowl as perfectly reasonable.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 8:07 pm
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I’d Make it more economically conservative and more socially liberal


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 9:04 pm
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Since the thread has diverged into British Education specifically, I’d massively ramp up History and make it compulsory all the way to GCSE

You can keep your GCSEs south of the border!


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 9:24 pm
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Ex council & state-owned properties which are currenly let, may be compulsorily re-purchased by the vendor at a discount to the market rates.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 9:25 pm
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I want all those who want to bring back Hanging and National Service to be rounded up and sent off to somewhere remote, they could then take turns shooting at each other then hanging those who are left.

But more realistically I would go with Saxon Rider and it's education we need, it's the thing that will make our future better.

Following on for that a forum to have the difficult conversations honestly and openly. In the next few years we need to tackle
The Environment and how we save ourselves
The future of work, labour and reward, the concept of a universal income. We cannot continue the way we are.
Housing as a need not a profit.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 9:50 pm
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Wouldn't do away with British society, but I'd like to make the UK smaller


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:07 pm
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As a wise woman said, there is no such thing as society. So a fundamental change would be to reintroduce one.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:10 pm
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I would make it so that anyone suggesting schools should teach X has to say what would be removed from the curriculum to make time.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:13 pm
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I would make it so that anyone suggesting schools should teach X has to say what would be removed from the curriculum to make time.

About 5 weeks over the summer 😉


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:19 pm
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And remove the state pension from anyone who doesn’t have children

Why? Not understanding the logic here.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:20 pm
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Put the aspirant middle class in a sack and drown it


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:23 pm
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people would see arguing about Etonians vs wykehamists being better educated while the county circles the bowl as perfectly reasonable.

What do you think politics, philosophy and economics actually involves?


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:33 pm
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Wouldn’t do away with British society, but I’d like to make the UK smaller

Make the UK smaller or the population smaller?


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:37 pm
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If I could change anything fundamental in British Society

Either to bring back death penalty or Papillion style prison camp.

Choose one ... decision, decision ... 🤔


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:38 pm
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What do you think politics, philosophy and economics actually involves?

Depends which graduates you use to judge.

Studying philosophy, politics, and economics
Learning how to use latin phrases and carthinagian in context in newspaper columns.
Putting yourself into a pigs head
Arguing about where you went to school while everyone else is trying to get a handle in the mess you've made.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:41 pm
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Also, I’d prevent politicians using the term “taxpayer” and get then to use the term “citizen”.

As an adjunct to this, no citizenship without tax paying. Immigration can be relaxed a bit too but, if you cheat your taxes within 10 years of getting the shiny blue passport you get to leave with what you brought adjusted for inflation. Society gets the rest. If you haven't increased your wealth you get £1000, society keeps everything else.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 10:55 pm
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As an adjunct to this, no citizenship without tax paying.

Paying tax does not make you a citizen, hopefully helping the poorest to not pay any should help be a citizen, working is contributing to tax is still contributing. When we can get beyond who pays, who gets helped and what it makes you we will be better.
See point above, we need to work out how we move along as a society when manual labour is replaced by more automation.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:00 pm
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Legislate that all new houses have solar panels/ geothermal heating. That all new housing estates have to have x amount of parks/ outdoor spaces.

Build a network of seperate cycle/ footpaths for commuting.

Massive programme of tree planting/ re-wilding


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:14 pm
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@Slowoldman I meant the United Kingdom. Not really in favour of decreasing the population, though there are a few individuals I'd like to see go very far away 😀


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:22 pm
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though there are a few individuals I’d like to see go very far away

Well I'm willing to offer Chewkw an all expenses paid trip* to the other side of the great Firewall of China 🙂 (*when I'm in charge - one of the disappointing things about not getting Aus Citizenship was not being entered into the Be PM for a bit lottery)

But to bang my drum as "Mike - he sacks people and replaces them with robots"**
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/06/automation-destroy-millions-jobs-change
If we can't talk about this stuff Brexit will seem like a small disagreement about the wrong kind of milk in your latte - and by talk I mean taking the bile and hate from it, not being political or right all the time.

**Cheers to Rob for the title


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:29 pm
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1. Put a cap on the number of properties that can be owned by a singe entity/ person.
2. Make first aid classes compulsory at school.
3. Compulsory national service.
4. If any under 18s get charged with a crime then both parents get penalized too.
5. Make the wearing of 'popped collars' against the law.
6. Make the government build decent houses instead of the god-awful housing estates being built now.
7. Start making houses in factories and crane them into place.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:30 pm
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I'd like to change the sense of entitlement that a lot of people have.
A lot of people seem to think the world revolves around them and they don't seem to have any empathy for anything.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:43 pm
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I’d like to change the sense of entitlement that a lot of people have.

It's all about what you'd like, isn't it. Bloody typical.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:52 pm
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stop being obsessed by cost over value.


 
Posted : 28/03/2019 11:58 pm
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It’s not tolerated in many other places such as the NHS etc. So why schools?

You haven't worked in the NHS if you think it is a wonderful workplace free from abuse!


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 10:56 am
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in no particular order

seperation of church and state
faith schools paid for by the faith
Straight 15% tax on everything
written consitution
Councils not party linked
Faith organisation not given charitable status.
removal of nuclear weapons
stop most trade with countries with human rights issues (saudi, ****stan etc)
stop giving money to countries with human rights issues
more speed cameras

probably other things but I have to eat cake.


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 11:31 am
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This thread just goes to show how some people haven't got a clue. And others are just bastards.


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 11:33 am
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Tax Wealth instead of Income

A car can only be owned/licensed if you can show you own/rent a place to store it.

Remove religion from education system.


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 11:42 am
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anyone who uses the words 'working class', 'middle class' or variants thereof gets a hoof in the slats

reform the house of lords and get shot of all those bl00dy silly titles


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 2:20 pm
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Remove greed from the populace. Not exactly sure what would happen but i suspect it would be a general improvement 😀


 
Posted : 29/03/2019 3:13 pm
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no exceptions lifetime deportations for any immigrant or tourist committing a crime. tangible benefit small but fully positive. Intangible benefit (appeasing the racist gammons whilst at the same time showing them its a minor problem in the grand scheme of things) massive.

Gradual population reduction by reducing the birth rate. Ideally proving that both parents have both the mental and financial capacity to raise their child before being allowed to have one; but that does get a bit Orwellian.

Voters must be able to briefly explain one policy of their chosen candidate/party that they agree with; and more importantly one they disagree with (nobody should ever fully agree with a manifesto). Forcing people to actually think and not vote for the blue or red rosette they always have might be the best route to sensible political reform.

Minimum walking speed on pavements in busy areas in towns and cities. (disabled badge holders exempt.)


 
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