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educator, my weight issues are from being a greedy ****. my health issue was sheer bad luck.
changing my eating habits to a low fat low gi diet helped me maintain a more healthy weight. and a ace heart surgeon sorted my health...nothing to do with my diet.
I was referring to the constant coughs, colds, infections, joint issues and so on rather than the heart thing, Ton. But to say any health issue is pure bad luck when there is so much evidence that diet plays a role in so many is head-in-the-sand.
I've watched you on a lot of threds, Molgrips. You generally start insulting perople's intelligence or claiming they don't understand when you are incapable of justifying your position. In this case opsing my view that: that banning fruit and specifically the apple in a diet is counter productive.
The GI thing doesn't justify it because as I've pointed out the apple contains pectin and is recommended in the prevention of diabetes. Whilst glucose-fructose syrup is horrible stuff the fructose in an apple really isn't a problem. The GI of apples is 38. The total quantity of carbs is also pretty low.
The iDave diet bans or promoted food stuff in an arbitrary and irrational manner.
apologies then, I thought you meant my heart issue.
and I would like to add, I eat plenty of fruit now, and porridge too.
idave would frown..... 😆
The iDave diet bans or promoted food stuff in an arbitrary and irrational manner.
I to rubbish your intelligence, Edukator, because you come across as incredibly arrogant and a massive know-all. Sometimes you are spot on, other times you have missed the point and you are not capable of admitting or even realising it.
A lot of fruit contains a lot of fructose, and often doesn't contain that many nutrients. And those that it does contain can be obtained elsewhere with lots of other beneficial things besides. So it's not in the least bit irrational. Pectin is also in things we consider vegetables - I assume you knew that?
And the diet is not aimed at preventing type II diabetes. If it were, I'm sure apples woud be in it. Or at least, pectin containing things.
http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/loseweight/pages/how-to-diet.aspx
https://www.bda.uk.com/foodfacts/faddiets
My tuppence worth. The iDave/ low gi/ low carb diets help with one main thing: binging. Do people get fat eating apples? Highly unlikely. However the psychological and physiological response to different food types can effect people in very different ways. Maybe Edukator is strong willed enough to have one biscuit. Many other people can't just have one biscuit and once that sugary goodness gets into the system it creates a craving sensation and food binging occurs. So whislt apples are not fundamentally bad, they could create that sugar craving sensation, and in those times people are highly unlikely to OD on apples and will instead turn to biscuits, cakes, pie etc.
There's a misconception about these diets that it's all high fat meat, cream, cheese etc. To be honest you'd get sick of the "diet" if that's all it consisted of. For me, it's more of a "clean" approach to eating: lean fish, plenty of veg, no processed/ junk food. If that happens to fall under the banner of "fad diet" then so be it.
Oh look, links from Macavity. 🙄
That hardly ever happens you know
Do people get fat eating apples? Highly unlikely
Probably not. On the other hand, I have a friend whose idea of healthy eating is huge plates of really sweet fruit, lots of times a week. Probbaly not that good.
However she is losing weight from her tubby starting point, because she is smashing it in the gym most days.
The iDave diet bans or promoted food stuff in an arbitrary and irrational manner.
The point is to avoid food which cause an insulin spike. It's mighty hard to get a list of these foods. Sure, you can get a list of High and Low GI foods, and many low insulin spike foods are low GI, and many high insulin spike foods are high GI, but there are many which diverge from this pattern.
So a simplified broad brush edict was given. "No white carbs, no fruit, no dairy, no cereal.As in NONE. Just don’t do it, even a bit".
And, if you're a sensible person, after a while you will work out which of the things you can bring back in without losing the benefits. Of which there are several.