[Closed] iDave Diet Joinee

TSY - I would say that coke is the best post [u]race[/u] recovery drink, but I think that has already been covered.

If you think there's more mileage in it...

How is that balanced in MolGrips world, with the need (historically) to attract members of the opposite sex ?.

Well I seem to end up with women who like geeks, and compared to them I'm seriously ripped.

MSP - that's what bars are for.

phil - everyone know's that milk is the best post[s]race[/s] ride recovery drink. Coke just doesn't have the protein required for effective muscle restoration...

MSP - that's what bars are for.

I think most bars would still be quite high in sugar, so would have quite a high gi rating and insulin response. I will see if I can dig it out tonight, it might just have been marketing guff.

[i]Well I seem to end up with women who like geeks, and compared to them I'm seriously ripped.[/i]

Ohh, good answer.
😀

TSY

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Ohh, how about 50:50 milk & coke. Race & Ride Recovery™

Shall we go into production next week. Then we can retire like deadlydarcy seems to have.

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I've found 40DD. His hands are too greasy with moisturiser (that's what he calls it anyway) to type properly.

Just back from a ride, 43 miles, 2350ft climbing, 17.8mph. I left at 11.30am. My previous meal was 7pm last night. Since then I had 2 biscuits last night and a few almonds and 2 espressos this morning. I took one gel and 500ml 8% carbs during the ride. If only I'd feasted on bread and pasta who knows what would have happened.

ANECDOTAL!!!!!!!!!

Well I seem to end up with women who like geeks, and compared to them I'm seriously ripped.

What, the women? Bit harsh mate.

@Phil

Get Yazoo. Fraction of the price, and longer shelf life as doesn't need to be kept in fridge while storing.

I think this:

had linked the chains to create a much lower gi gel that gave a more steady release of energy

it might just have been marketing guff.

CNP's energy drink uses high levels of Taurine as its 'protein' source which I'm not too sure I like the idea of, even though I have happily poured many a can of Red Bull down my neck. [url= http://road.cc/content/review/52760-cnp-professional-pro-hydrate ]http://road.cc/content/review/52760-cnp-professional-pro-hydrate[/url]

That Mars picture, where it says:

" only 1.5 percent fat ".....Well, not once you've chugged it !.
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I think most bars would still be quite high in sugar, so would have quite a high gi rating and insulin response

You might think that, but did you check? 🙂

Torq bars are made to be medium GI according to the manufacturer. As opposed to the gels and drink.

PS anyone got the diet link? I've lost it 🙁

I need it to!

I just had a massive row with my sister in law on facebook because I was going to suggest iDiet to her aunt who was interested. Then I realised I didn't have the link.

If I say why I need it I'll sound like (even more of) a dick. Can you forward it to me when you get a copy please?

the link was back there < somewhere

edit - TSY i'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you are going to use it to try seduce a yet-ette.

anyway do you not have a DD to DD's account for constant updates 🙂

[url= https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9thf7ewubIEODNjYTlhODgtMzRmMy00MTg2LWI0M2YtNzExYWIwMmRiYzlh ]here you go[/url]

edit - TSY i'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you are going to use it to try seduce a yet-ette.

"here luv, you've got a pretty face but you're a bit tubby... give this diet a go and we could have some fun"

"here luv, you've got a pretty face but you're a bit tubby... give this diet a go and we could have some fun"

Come on hamsters I want to read what Mustard has said.

Finally - I'm smooth, aren't I... admit it.

[i]Finally - I'm smooth, aren't I... admit it. [/i]

Pictures, or it didn't happen....

😉

What didn't happen?

Your Smoothness.

O' Young man.

Sorry, I'm probably almost as bored as you are.
No way I can recall what started this thread.
But lets not have that get in our way.

I had a psychometric test done yesterday... the results said I'm not challenged enough in my work. hahahahaaa

Well, as you mention it....

What do you do for work, besides move around the interweb at the speed of Yeti ?.

Right, today got 352W, 334W, 335W, 332W, 336W* and about 312W.

* despite almost being wiped out from behind by a speeding Merc.

I did however have some simple carbs about 2.5 hours before, then meat and veg about 1 hour before. I think the improvement was psychological or neurological though because my legs hurt a lot and I managed to grit my teeth and press on.

I think my biggest problem is that my legs seem to shut down too easily when they start feeling a bit of pain when training, I think I am subconsciously intimidated by it. Sometimes during races I can unleash feats of cycling that amaze be, but I have to be really really fired up and it doesn't happen very often.

Only cos its you, I'm loggin on.

So, do you feel thats an improvement ?, do you think if you refine your strategy along these lines that you might achieve a result you desire ?.

Still not sure about a meal 1 hour before the ride.

I'm more in the iDave camp, were he had a meal the night before, very little sugar by way of two biccies, then out on the bike the next morning.

I can do similar and ride happily and comfortably for 1-2 hrs.
But much further and I have to slow.

I'm not able to ride at the moment, but I am interested enough to experiment with some simple carbs anytime after an hour into the ride.
When I can get back onto a bike.

Seems like, by chance, I have been doing the fat burning part of the ride for the first part, as I say, for upto between 1-2 hrs.
But I've never really tried to fuel in "real time" once stored glycogen has been used / depleted.

Also, what form of simple carbs did you take, 2.5 hrs before ?.

Yeah I didn't really want to ride so soon after my meal but it was the only time slot I had. I can't really ride in the mornings, I find it really really hard. The stats are definitely an improvement but like I say I reckon it's more psychological - I feel a lot more tired than I did last time, so I must've pushed myself harder. That's why I am doing plenty of that session - teach myself to really ride on the rivet.

The 2.5 hours before was a sweet latte which really didn't touch the sides!

And what about post ride ?.

If you feel that you're suffering, have done the post ride carbs and if so, how have you determined the amount to administer ? and via what form of carb ?.

Yeah.. post ride I've had a tiny helping of cheesecake and a coke, in addition to my two scoops of recovery... Didn't really need that, feel bad because I've done well this week.

Right, today got 352W, 334W, 335W, 332W, 336W* and about 312W.

Sorry Mol... for those of us without powermeters... how fast and how far?
Those power levels are at the threshold level for the 6th fastest rdier in Kona history.

is petrol permitted on the iDave Diet?

Sorry Mol... for those of us without powermeters... how fast and how far?

It won't make any sense without gradient and prevailing wind conditions.. and my drag coefficient... Anyway the data is in, mis-remembered it.

346W/36.0kph
336W/40.9kph
339W/36.5kph
336W/32.9kph
330W/41.7kph (the one with the Merc incident, slowed me down a bit)
312W/35.5kph

They are all 3 mins.

Your drag what-now?

[i] post ride I've had a tiny helping of cheesecake and a coke, in addition to my two scoops of recovery... Didn't really need that, feel bad because I've done well this week[/i]

so you've been in the cookie jar again Molly? tut tut. 😉

Kev

[i]is petrol permitted on the iDave Diet? [/i]

I prefer the smell of napalm, in the morning...

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I prefer the smell of napalm, in the morning...

That is one of the side effects of eating all them eggs.

I was really after total ride distance and speed... I found it on facebook.

Anyway... that seems like an awful lot of power for some of those speeds.

[i]Yeah.. post ride I've had a tiny helping of cheesecake and a coke, in addition to my two scoops of recovery...[/i]

why don't you just eat what you want? You clearly can't/won't/will modify to suit how you feel...stick to a food plan, why are you bothering?

emsz - you need to get inside the mind of an athlete. It's not as simple as it is for the rest of us.

I'm down to 72kg this morning, pre dump. Passed all hydration tests too.
Going full iDave works.

TSY - so this next sportive, you up for it? Two man time trial effort?

Yeti, I'm hovering between 43 and 44kg